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Craig 72

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Re: Has Boris just shut us down?
« Reply #60 on: March 23, 2020, 09:53:06 pm »
Until he puts a freeze on all my bills I’m going to have to at least try to work (assuming the customer is willing).I’ve got two days pressure washing starting tomorrow in which I won’t have to see a soul and they will pay online.

Stoots

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Re: Has Boris just shut us down?
« Reply #61 on: March 23, 2020, 09:54:41 pm »
I don't know now lol

I'm starting to think this is going to feel  awkward as feck if I go out tomorrow but I might just go out and see why the response is like.

On the plus side I can ride my bike everyday for 3 weeks, may as well use this time to get fit.


Missing Link

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Re: Has Boris just shut us down?
« Reply #62 on: March 23, 2020, 09:54:49 pm »
Play from 39 seconds in

https://twitter.com/skynews/status/1242189099882229764?s=21

There is no essential workers and no key workers mentioned at all

Yes, the 'floppy haired twat' wasn't clear in his explanation.

This seems fairly clear though:



There is a list of key workers and we're not on it; obvs.
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Re: Has Boris just shut us down?
« Reply #63 on: March 23, 2020, 09:55:24 pm »
Not clear enough for people working outdoors.

How was that not clear?

Sturgeon has been clearer.

No window cleaning in Scotland.

This was my issue I had and glad you cleared it up.

She used the words “essential” work! Boris never mentioned that word.

JackieW

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Re: Has Boris just shut us down?
« Reply #64 on: March 23, 2020, 09:58:03 pm »
''You must stay at home.........
People will only be allowed to leave their  home for the following very limited purposes..................... travelling to or from work, but only where this is absolutely necessary and cannot be done from home''.

When he says 'this' is absolutely necessary , what 'this' is he referring to?  The work , or the travelling?

Shrek

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Re: Has Boris just shut us down?
« Reply #65 on: March 23, 2020, 09:59:38 pm »
Actually.... the more I listen to it , he says only go to work where it’s absolutely necessary .... I think that means key workers 😞

I’m taking the next 2 weeks off and see how it goes

Stoots

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Re: Has Boris just shut us down?
« Reply #66 on: March 23, 2020, 10:00:48 pm »


That's not what the pm said ref key workers. Ignore twitter that changes words used
He said 'absolutley essential', is your window cleaning absolutely essential?

He didn't though!

He said "absolutely necessary and can't be done from home"

He didn't mention key worker or essential which makes this all the more confusing.

"absolutely necessary" doesn't tell us anything as it's open to interpretation.

Did he mean absolutely necessary because it can't be done from home or did he mean it as in if its essential.

I'm stumped but I reckon he meant you can go to work if it can't be done from home otherwise he just stopped everyone working except key workers which I'm sure he would have said if that was the case.

G Griffin

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Re: Has Boris just shut us down?
« Reply #67 on: March 23, 2020, 10:01:22 pm »
He can't stop you working because there are no laws in place to do so. Yet.
There probably never will be. It's not easy passing new laws, especially ones like that.
He's asked you not to work- the message was clear- but there's not a lot he can do to stop you. We're not North Korea.
Come Thursday, he might be able to move you off the street or give you a slap on the wrist.

Did anyone really think it would be about window cleaning or the self employed?
People are dying and take a look at the rest of the economy! Even McDonald's have closed.
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Re: Has Boris just shut us down?
« Reply #68 on: March 23, 2020, 10:02:15 pm »
On twitter there's lots of confusion. Beth Rigby (sky news) posted this which indicates that you can travel to work if you can't work from home: https://twitter.com/BethRigby/status/1242203319826857984
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Re: Has Boris just shut us down?
« Reply #69 on: March 23, 2020, 10:03:10 pm »
He's asked you not to work- the message was clear- but there's not a lot he can do to stop you.

No he didn't.  He said you could travel for work if it was absolutely necessary and you couldn't work from home.

Do stop making stuff up.
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Re: Has Boris just shut us down?
« Reply #70 on: March 23, 2020, 10:04:03 pm »
Did anyone really think it would be about window cleaning or the self employed?

Many European lock downs allowed people to go to work.
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Re: Has Boris just shut us down?
« Reply #71 on: March 23, 2020, 10:06:52 pm »
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Windy Miller

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Re: Has Boris just shut us down?
« Reply #72 on: March 23, 2020, 10:08:48 pm »
So when it's all said and done, the willy waving about cars and holidays doesn't amount to much if you're going to have to work through the biggest peacetime national crisis in a long time in a trade which typically relies on the older and subsequently more at risk members of society!

G Griffin

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Re: Has Boris just shut us down?
« Reply #73 on: March 23, 2020, 10:09:24 pm »
He's asked you not to work- the message was clear- but there's not a lot he can do to stop you.

No he didn't.  He said you could travel for work if it was absolutely necessary and you couldn't work from home.

Do stop making stuff up.
Our work is not absolutely necessary, so he's asking you not to go.
Or are you saying that he's asking us to go? That he's not bothered whether we go or not?
You should have been listening instead of touch typing. With your head.
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G Griffin

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Re: Has Boris just shut us down?
« Reply #74 on: March 23, 2020, 10:10:39 pm »
Did anyone really think it would be about window cleaning or the self employed?

Many European lock downs allowed people to go to work.
Get away.
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Craig 72

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Re: Has Boris just shut us down?
« Reply #75 on: March 23, 2020, 10:14:03 pm »
I couldn’t see anything on the official gov.uk site about it being only key workers who could work.Just that you can only travel to work if you absolutely can’t work from home.Unless I get a ten mile pole and hose that might be tricky.

Slacky

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Re: Has Boris just shut us down?
« Reply #76 on: March 23, 2020, 10:14:12 pm »
Well, Ive go a few offices to do tomorrow. I'll rock up and if the staff are in then I can work too if thats the case.

Stoots

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Re: Has Boris just shut us down?
« Reply #77 on: March 23, 2020, 10:15:00 pm »
So when it's all said and done, the willy waving about cars and holidays doesn't amount to much if you're going to have to work through the biggest peacetime national crisis in a long time in a trade which typically relies on the older and subsequently more at risk members of society!

The vast, probably 90% of my round is under 60 so speak for yourself.

CleanClear

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Re: Has Boris just shut us down?
« Reply #78 on: March 23, 2020, 10:15:06 pm »
He can't stop you working because there are no laws in place to do so. Yet.
There probably never will be. It's not easy passing new laws, especially ones like that.

He's asked you not to work- the message was clear- but there's not a lot he can do to stop you. We're not North Korea.
Come Thursday, he might be able to move you off the street or give you a slap on the wrist.

Did anyone really think it would be about window cleaning or the self employed?
People are dying and take a look at the rest of the economy! Even McDonald's have closed.

They sorted them this afternoon, they'll be signed off by Thurday latest.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52004116
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Re: Has Boris just shut us down?
« Reply #79 on: March 23, 2020, 10:15:52 pm »
Full guidance on staying away from others:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/874714/Full_guidance_on_staying_at_home_and_away_from_others.pdf

"Travelling to and from work, but only where this absolutely cannot be done from home."

That reads to me that we can go to work.
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