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davids3511

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Re: Has Boris just shut us down?
« Reply #80 on: March 23, 2020, 10:17:33 pm »
So when it's all said and done, the willy waving about cars and holidays doesn't amount to much if you're going to have to work through the biggest peacetime national crisis in a long time in a trade which typically relies on the older and subsequently more at risk members of society!

The vast, probably 90% of my round is under 60 so speak for yourself.
That would worry me in this current situation. About 50% of mine are retired with a certain pension. I'm relying on them to be there when this is all over, lots of others will be loosing their jobs.

RPCCS

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Re: Has Boris just shut us down?
« Reply #81 on: March 23, 2020, 10:17:44 pm »
I have posted on fb to my customers that I will be shut down. Will see what the "assistance for self employed" is, then contact local supermarkets for delivery driver jobs
Cheers Rich

britishwill

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Re: Has Boris just shut us down?
« Reply #82 on: March 23, 2020, 10:21:55 pm »
WE ARE SHUT DOWN..
TO GO TO WORK YOU MAY NEED TO FILL YOUR VAN WITH FUEL,  POSSIBLE SPREAD, GO TO THE TOILET, CONTACT WITH OTHER PEOPLE, SANDWICH FROM A SUPERMARKET. WHAT IS NOT TO UNDERSTAND?
WHAT ABOUT THE OPINION OF YOUR CLIENTS AND SOME ELDERLY THAT FELL THEY CANNOT SAY NO, YOU ARE NOT HEEDING THE NATIONAL ADVICE AND THE ADVICE THE NHS ARE PLEADING FOR.
NO WORK FOR 3 WEEKS, GET IT

G Griffin

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Re: Has Boris just shut us down?
« Reply #83 on: March 23, 2020, 10:25:16 pm »
He can't stop you working because there are no laws in place to do so. Yet.
There probably never will be. It's not easy passing new laws, especially ones like that.

He's asked you not to work- the message was clear- but there's not a lot he can do to stop you. We're not North Korea.
Come Thursday, he might be able to move you off the street or give you a slap on the wrist.

Did anyone really think it would be about window cleaning or the self employed?
People are dying and take a look at the rest of the economy! Even McDonald's have closed.

They sorted them this afternoon, they'll be signed off by Thurday latest.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52004116
Aye.
But I reckon everyone will have earned enough to retire by Thursday anyway.
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Missing Link

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Re: Has Boris just shut us down?
« Reply #84 on: March 23, 2020, 10:28:04 pm »
WE ARE SHUT DOWN..

Only if you want to; gov isn't stopping people from travelling to work:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/874714/Full_guidance_on_staying_at_home_and_away_from_others.pdf

"Travelling to and from work, but only where this absolutely cannot be done from home."

As has been pointed out, the video that said "Key workers only" has been deleted, so I'll bet it was done in error and wasn't part of the rules.
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TomCrowther

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Re: Has Boris just shut us down?
« Reply #85 on: March 23, 2020, 10:28:29 pm »
I think three weeks is just the start. Boris has read the Hobbit. The dwarves come to Bilbo’s house in twos and threes. All at once would be too much of a shock.
He is easing us into it. I think 12 weeks will be more like it.

NWH

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Re: Has Boris just shut us down?
« Reply #86 on: March 23, 2020, 10:29:40 pm »
I can’t see it being 12

G Griffin

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Re: Has Boris just shut us down?
« Reply #87 on: March 23, 2020, 10:39:17 pm »
WE ARE SHUT DOWN..

Only if you want to; gov isn't stopping people from travelling to work
Because they can't. Yet. It is unprecedented.
Schools were open last week and now they are not. It can change like that.
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Cookie

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Re: Has Boris just shut us down?
« Reply #88 on: March 23, 2020, 10:44:41 pm »
"You must stay at home" - pretty unambiguous IMO.

KINGAKNAA

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Re: Has Boris just shut us down?
« Reply #89 on: March 23, 2020, 10:48:32 pm »
Housing minister has said construction workers...they can carry in as long as they carry out social distancing. Out of 30 customers today I interacted with about 6 and kept a good 6 foot between us.
HOWAY THE LADS!!!!

johnny bravo

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Re: Has Boris just shut us down?
« Reply #90 on: March 23, 2020, 10:48:53 pm »
I would find it too embarrassing ,    staying home  is hard when you know you can be making money. But  the police may send you home .  our work is not Essential   .  Name Essential work to keep our towns and Hospitals running
      I  like  most now wont be  working.       

Missing Link

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Re: Has Boris just shut us down?
« Reply #91 on: March 23, 2020, 10:49:35 pm »
I would find it too embarrassing ,    staying home  is hard when you know you can be making money. But  the police may send you home .  our work is not Essential   .  Name Essential work to keep our towns and Hospitals running
      I  like  most now wont be  working.     

You're confused.  The word 'essential' isn't even used.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/874714/Full_guidance_on_staying_at_home_and_away_from_others.pdf
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Missing Link

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Re: Has Boris just shut us down?
« Reply #92 on: March 23, 2020, 10:50:18 pm »
Housing minister has Saudi construction workers...they can carry in as long as they carry out social distancing. Out of 30 customers today I interacted with about 6 and kept a good 6 foot between us. 👍

There's a new housing estate being built by us.  The builders are not social distancing.
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G Griffin

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Re: Has Boris just shut us down?
« Reply #93 on: March 23, 2020, 10:50:53 pm »
"You must stay at home" - pretty unambiguous IMO.
I thought so......but he never mention tradding with an HMan modification, did he?
I don't like the modded but I got what he meant and I'm willing to do it.
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Missing Link

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Re: Has Boris just shut us down?
« Reply #94 on: March 23, 2020, 10:51:13 pm »
"You must stay at home" - pretty unambiguous IMO.

There's four exceptions.

Travel to work is one of them, if you can't work from home.

These are the rules: 

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/874714/Full_guidance_on_staying_at_home_and_away_from_others.pdf
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Missing Link

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Re: Has Boris just shut us down?
« Reply #95 on: March 23, 2020, 10:52:11 pm »
Because they can't. Yet. It is unprecedented.
Schools were open last week and now they are not. It can change like that.

Maybe, but it hasn't in Spain.

I guess it all depends on the boffins and the 'curve'.
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G Griffin

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Re: Has Boris just shut us down?
« Reply #96 on: March 23, 2020, 10:55:55 pm »
"You must stay at home" - pretty unambiguous IMO.

There's four exceptions.

Travel to work is one of them, if you can't work from home.

These are the rules: 

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/874714/Full_guidance_on_staying_at_home_and_away_from_others.pdf
Rules?
There'll be laws coming in. 329 pages. I doubt they'll mention window cleaning but ignorance might not be the best defence.
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Missing Link

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Re: Has Boris just shut us down?
« Reply #97 on: March 23, 2020, 10:58:00 pm »
Rules?
There'll be laws coming in. 329 pages. I doubt they'll mention window cleaning but ignorance might not be the best defence.

The ignorance is on your part, bonny lad.

What's confusing you about this?

"Travelling to and from work, but only where this absolutely cannot be done from home."

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/874714/Full_guidance_on_staying_at_home_and_away_from_others.pdf
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G Griffin

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Re: Has Boris just shut us down?
« Reply #98 on: March 23, 2020, 11:05:48 pm »
Rules?
There'll be laws coming in. 329 pages. I doubt they'll mention window cleaning but ignorance might not be the best defence.

The ignorance is on your part, bonny lad.

What's confusing you about this?

"Travelling to and from work, but only where this absolutely cannot be done from home."

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/874714/Full_guidance_on_staying_at_home_and_away_from_others.pdf
It was a speech, ffs.
You keep going on about rules. It's not a playground game.
We'll know more when the laws come out and even then there'll be discrepancies.
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Missing Link

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Re: Has Boris just shut us down?
« Reply #99 on: March 23, 2020, 11:09:38 pm »
It was a speech, ffs.
You keep going on about rules. It's not a playground game.
We'll know more when the laws come out and even then there'll be discrepancies.

And here's the official government guidance:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/874714/Full_guidance_on_staying_at_home_and_away_from_others.pdf

"Travelling to and from work, but only where this absolutely cannot be done from home."

What is confusing you, Griff?
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