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Rayleigh Window Cleaning Services

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Re: Views on this geezer
« Reply #40 on: February 13, 2014, 05:10:41 pm »
I also would be doing the whole of the windows in the time it took for the first window, and they would be done thoroughly.  The pump sounded loud but you can see by the lack of water under the ledges and the part of the wall he wet going from window to window that the water was on low.  A lot of unnecessary wiggling of the brush.  7 minutes for the front of a house is longer that I used to clean traditionally 15 years ago.

Cranking up the water feed would easily cut his time in half, and he would use the same amount of water.


Peter

+1  ;)

andyM

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Re: Views on this geezer
« Reply #41 on: February 13, 2014, 05:19:50 pm »
Glad I helped Tripoyboy.

In my view probably the best thing that's happened to window cleaning industry is the introduction of the water fed pole, and the worse thing is the introduction of the flow controller.  The flow controller wasn't introduced so that the pump can be turned down, it was introduced to stop the pump switches burning out.  Since their introduction they are probably responsible for the biggest loss in time a window cleaner will ever have.  If they hadn't been introduced most window cleaners would be earning more money, or spending more time with their family.

I have to agree with what you say there.
I use an analogue pump controller as that's what I bought when I first went wfp.
But over time I've upped the flow rate to full (10 on the controller dial).
It has not affected the pressure switch, and if the controller ever dies I won't bother using another one as I prefer working with a full flow.
 
One of the Plebs

C o z y

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Re: Views on this geezer
« Reply #42 on: February 13, 2014, 05:21:17 pm »
No idea why he made the vid. I can't imagine anyone apart from window cleaners even bothering to watch a vid of some bloke waving a pole at some windows. People moan about adverts on TV and some of you think your custies would waste over 5 minutes watching that??

Imagine your local plumber shoving a DVD in your hand lasting 5 minutes showing him sticking a radiator to a livingroom wall  ::)roll



You post videos online of you gobbling Fritz's Guurman sausage 'n then gargling! Where's the difference chocolatestarfishboy?

Cottage loitering git  ;)
No still don't understand, I must be thick

wightsurf

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Re: Views on this geezer
« Reply #43 on: February 13, 2014, 05:52:54 pm »
I would rate the speed the same as a new person just starting out. And the juggling well say no more :D
But there's no rules only list income, if your are this slow,I mean quick :D I would have rethink of what you are doing

robbo333

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Re: Views on this geezer
« Reply #44 on: February 13, 2014, 06:05:41 pm »
Not bad.
Anyone else gonna put some videos up?  ;)
"Thank you for calling: if you have a 1st floor flat, mid terraced house, lots of dogs, no parking, no side access, or no sense of humour, please press hold!
For all other enquiries, please press1"

Jonny 87

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Re: Views on this geezer
« Reply #45 on: February 13, 2014, 06:16:24 pm »
Not bad.
Anyone else gonna put some videos up?  ;)

+1

Everyone's a critic, but doesn't want to put a video up of showing themselves doing it quicker.  :)

They could upload the video to youtube and make it private, just with a link here in this topic. Then only we could see it and no one else. They could even delete it after a week or so if they wanted.

Any takers.............?

 :)
Vision Technician / Visual Engineer /  Vision Enhancement Operative /...........................................................OnlyUseMeWFP AkA Jonny the Windy Wesher

Geoff

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Re: Views on this geezer
« Reply #46 on: February 13, 2014, 06:18:49 pm »
Who would bother to?  Got better things to do than set up a camera and upload etc - this is the sort of thing that n00bies do, so there's unlikely to be any fair comparison.

trippyboy

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Re: Views on this geezer
« Reply #47 on: February 13, 2014, 07:42:35 pm »
Not bad.
Anyone else gonna put some videos up?  ;)

+1

Everyone's a critic, but doesn't want to put a video up of showing themselves doing it quicker.  :)

They could upload the video to youtube and make it private, just with a link here in this topic. Then only we could see it and no one else. They could even delete it after a week or so if they wanted.

Any takers.............?

 :)
Cant be arsed with making silly videos,all I know is im a lot quicker than that bloke in the vid,im not begging anyone to believe that or not. I watched the vid and made a valid comment that basicly the guy was slow. If you would like to pop down for the day and watch me at work,bring yout stopwatch if you like  ;D. If it means so much then come on down to Brizzy the price is right,i'll even buy ya a brekkie  :P

wightsurf

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Re: Views on this geezer
« Reply #48 on: February 13, 2014, 07:51:58 pm »
I agree
Think of it this way ,if you work at that speed and you are getting Advised that the bloke is slow then its up to you to believe it or not but if the Advise is correct don't you think that maybe you should be asking how to speed up rather than disbelieve ?

Look at the video again and think where is he wasting time .

Don Kee

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Re: Views on this geezer
« Reply #49 on: February 13, 2014, 07:54:32 pm »
People worry about what other people ate doing too much....
Does it matter how quick he cleans a window?
If hes happy with what he earns, and the custie is happy with the job he does then jobs a good 'un....
If hes new, he'll get quicker.....

robbo333

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Re: Views on this geezer
« Reply #50 on: February 13, 2014, 08:12:04 pm »
I love the way people criticise the video but are not prepared to put one up themselves.
If you're good then show us how good you are!
Obviously you won't, because we've all got our little secrets we don't want to share with each other!
And naturally we don't want the p*ss ripped out of us. Which will happen  ;D
Like what happened to this guy!
"Thank you for calling: if you have a 1st floor flat, mid terraced house, lots of dogs, no parking, no side access, or no sense of humour, please press hold!
For all other enquiries, please press1"

Geoff

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Re: Views on this geezer
« Reply #51 on: February 13, 2014, 08:17:32 pm »

pdale

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Re: Views on this geezer
« Reply #52 on: February 13, 2014, 09:53:47 pm »
I'd do that quicker trad  ;D
Where am I knocking today?

rosskesava

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Re: Views on this geezer
« Reply #53 on: February 13, 2014, 10:05:59 pm »
How about this for technique.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyU4GrBTefg
Just chant..... Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare, Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare. It's beats chanting Tory Tory or Labour Labour.

paul13

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Re: Views on this geezer
« Reply #54 on: February 13, 2014, 10:16:09 pm »
I will try and do a vid tomorrow, think every one should
would be good to see every body's method.
Try for similar house in op.

Jonny 87

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Re: Views on this geezer
« Reply #55 on: February 13, 2014, 10:52:49 pm »
Yeah yeah yeah. " I could make a video, but don't have time/can't be bothered/why would I..... etc"

All the harsh critics will never make a video themselves as it will either show how poor of a job they would have to do to make those times viable, or actually that they are telling porkie pies.

On a house that size I would expect it take about 15 minutes or just under. But some of you say you could do it in less than 5?

Seeing is believing.

The video I'm going to link isn't a video that was created to show technique but rather a clamp less pole, so the technique shouldn't be criticised. but having said that, it's the fastest WFP window cleaning I can find on youtube, so is a good example fit for purpose.

It takes MR foggy 2 and a half minutes to clean the front of this house. And there is less windows on this house than the OP's video.

So to put that into perspective you "speed cleaners" would have to clean FASTER than MR foggy is on this video to match your so called times.

No frames are cleaned in this video either, so I stick to my original claims that you cannot do a thorough job while being as fast as some of you all claim.

You can have super speed, or quality as fast as you can. Choices have to be made.

Here's the vid;

http://youtu.be/Kidu9wUtBPM
Vision Technician / Visual Engineer /  Vision Enhancement Operative /...........................................................OnlyUseMeWFP AkA Jonny the Windy Wesher

Peter Fogwill

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Re: Views on this geezer
« Reply #56 on: February 13, 2014, 11:36:57 pm »
Jonny that video was done many years ago and like you said it was done to show a new product and not a video on how to clean windows.  It takes less time including the frames than it was done in the video.  There is lots of people doing it, some not so far from you.  Why not try and find out who they are and go and find out how you could be doing the same thing, instead of saying it can't be done? I can assure you quite categorically an average 3 bed semi can be done easily in 5 minutes. And would be done to the same standard as you will be doing them just now, and I am not talking about bursting any blood vessels in the process.

gary999

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Re: Views on this geezer
« Reply #57 on: February 13, 2014, 11:47:56 pm »
Good flow and on a maintenance clean i would clean that house
under 10 mins

Jonny 87

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Re: Views on this geezer
« Reply #58 on: February 13, 2014, 11:57:57 pm »
Jonny that video was done many years ago and like you said it was done to show a new product and not a video on how to clean windows.  It takes less time including the frames than it was done in the video.  There is lots of people doing it, some not so far from you.  Why not try and find out who they are and go and find out how you could be doing the same thing, instead of saying it can't be done? I can assure you quite categorically an average 3 bed semi can be done easily in 5 minutes. And would be done to the same standard as you will be doing them just now, and I am not talking about bursting any blood vessels in the process.

I'm all for the learning peter. Honestly I'm not saying it can't be done, just that why can't someone do a video of it? Or explain even?

I wasn't showing that video as if that was your technique, just that your video is the quickest I could find an example of.

Of the original posters video how long could it take to do that house?

My brain can't comprehend doing a 3 bed semi in 5 minutes including all frames and the results being good. Lol

Need to see an example!

Vision Technician / Visual Engineer /  Vision Enhancement Operative /...........................................................OnlyUseMeWFP AkA Jonny the Windy Wesher

rosskesava

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Re: Views on this geezer
« Reply #59 on: February 14, 2014, 12:14:07 am »
3 Bedroom house in 5 minutes?

I've heard some ludicrous claims on this forum but that beats the lot.

And to cap it all, that's without 'bursting a blood vessel'. And to further cap it all, it can be 'easily done' in five minutes.

So how quick would it take if the person was to burst a blood vessel and hurry?

2 minutes? 3 minutes?

Just chant..... Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare, Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare. It's beats chanting Tory Tory or Labour Labour.