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Title: Gardiner's website
Post by: Spruce on January 06, 2015, 11:44:48 am

Is up and running. Looks good at first glance. :)
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Clever Forum Name on January 06, 2015, 12:27:08 pm
My account and wish list is a good idea.

I see there is a blog as well.

Looks like Alex is upping his game. Got to admire him. Not a lot wrong with the old site yet he moves with the times.

Maybe we could use this thread as an ideas page for Alex on his new website.

I have always wanted an "account log in" I hope it works like I want it too.

Be nice to private messages in the account log. Instead of an email. So you can keep tracks of messages easier.

On the hole very zippy on an iPhone 6 plus on 4g

Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Shane O Neill on January 06, 2015, 01:41:57 pm
Not working  ???
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 06, 2015, 02:03:46 pm
Not working  ???

Still in final shakedown at the moment. It should all be sorted through the afternoon - very busy morning  :)
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Soupy on January 06, 2015, 02:05:37 pm
Will it give me free stuff?
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Jakey boy on January 06, 2015, 02:13:08 pm
Not working on the iPhone yet...
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: mufcglen on January 06, 2015, 02:55:09 pm
have to say guys im not a fan, i liked the old site very basic and simple to navigate now im geting dizzy with the dropdowns etc, took me 5 minutes to add a brush and some fan jets then went to the page with the jet hose t's and said they were in stock so clicked to add and said they wasnt in stock, i gave up and i'll have anouther go later!!
maybe it will grow but for me the old site was fine!
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Paul erithwc on January 06, 2015, 03:09:37 pm
I can't even get on it  :'( :'(
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: chanster00 on January 06, 2015, 04:07:42 pm
whats happening been trying to get on this site all week now its still not working
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Jakey boy on January 06, 2015, 04:59:07 pm
whats happening been trying to get on this site all week now its still not working

Don't know cos a few people have been on it today but I've had no luck either, weird how it's only letting a select few on...
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: chanster00 on January 06, 2015, 05:00:25 pm
r u chinese as well?



bet you its that!
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Jakey boy on January 06, 2015, 05:03:23 pm
r u chinese as well?



bet you its that!

Ha ha, with a name like Jake! No 100% English...
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Paul erithwc on January 06, 2015, 05:06:40 pm
whats happening been trying to get on this site all week now its still not working

Don't know cos a few people have been on it today but I've had no luck either, weird how it's only letting a select few on...

I bet Dazmond can get on the site he's the guy that paid for it mr gardiner extreme ;D ;D
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Clever Forum Name on January 06, 2015, 05:15:36 pm
Been on it several times today. It's obvisouly teething problems. Chill out guys lol
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: hasti on January 06, 2015, 05:15:47 pm
whats happening been trying to get on this site all week now its still not working

Don't know cos a few people have been on it today but I've had no luck either, weird how it's only letting a select few on...

I bet Dazmond can get on the site he's the guy that paid for it mr gardiner extreme ;D ;D




 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Tom-01 on January 06, 2015, 05:18:49 pm
Cor blimey there's nearly as much fuss as Baby prince George got when he was born! The Daily Mail will bring out a commemorative 32 page glossy brochure about it soon no doubt!
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Tom-01 on January 06, 2015, 05:20:00 pm
Managed to get on it earlier briefly and it looked good but no 'user experience' yet   ;D
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Clever Forum Name on January 06, 2015, 05:20:24 pm
Cor blimey there's nearly as much fuss as Baby prince George got when he was born! The Daily Mail will bring out a commemorative 32 page glossy brochure about it soon no doubt!

Surprised we only have a few threads on it tbh. Expecting a few
More from the usual idiots users
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 06, 2015, 05:25:52 pm
Unfortunately the teething issues have taken longer today to iron out by the developers.

I am assured that by tomorrow all will be working smoothly and we can get back on as normal!
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: capn sparkle on January 06, 2015, 05:34:31 pm
Another sleepless night for Dazmondo  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Tom-01 on January 06, 2015, 05:40:51 pm
Another sleepless night for Dazmondo  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Ha ha

I can imagine him pacing up and down telling himself 'its ok its ok I can wait!' then having a mini breakdown :)
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Shane O Neill on January 06, 2015, 06:04:27 pm
have to say guys im not a fan, i liked the old site very basic and simple to navigate now im geting dizzy with the dropdowns etc, took me 5 minutes to add a brush and some fan jets then went to the page with the jet hose t's and said they were in stock so clicked to add and said they wasnt in stock, i gave up and i'll have anouther go later!!
maybe it will grow but for me the old site was fine!

+ 1
No more PayPal ,didn't see anything wrong with previous site tbh & it worked  ;D
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: pikeman on January 06, 2015, 06:09:45 pm
No paypal hope that's not the case. Always like to buy equipment using my paypal balance.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Soupy on January 07, 2015, 01:34:24 pm
I liked the old one too. This one has me confused but, like most new things I'll get used to it soon enough.

We fear change.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Ian101 on January 07, 2015, 02:45:11 pm
wow its quick ... can find stuff easily enough however its rather jumpy with stuff popping open all over the place esp that title bar on top .. maybe speed of things opening need to be taken down by 50% .. also all the prices have +20% vat next to price .. looks untidy ... we all know its plus vat ... picky I know  :)
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Avo on January 07, 2015, 02:57:08 pm
Are the new brush range on the website yet because I can't see any..?
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: SeanK on January 07, 2015, 02:57:26 pm
Jumpy and hard on the eyes, wouldn't want to spend too much time on it.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Richard ham on January 07, 2015, 02:58:32 pm
I personally dislike the new website. Its not very good on my android devices. Not displaying correctly, size or format. I think i will just ring up or email for any sales.

Disappointed tbh.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Ian101 on January 07, 2015, 03:07:52 pm
Its prob not the finished article yet with some final tweaking to do .. agree about the sizes of pictures seem to big ?

Auto trader redone there website about 6 years ago when I was just about still in motor trade - it was a disaster for them as old one worked perfectly fine ... took them about 3 years to sort it all out .. sure Alex will get his sorted a lot quicker  :)
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Mike #1 on January 07, 2015, 03:18:00 pm
You click on different products  which are featured on home page and it just loads the home page again , What is the A for at top of website tab  ??? ??? .
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Richard ham on January 07, 2015, 03:21:45 pm
This is what i see.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: windowswashed on January 07, 2015, 03:22:55 pm
Prefered the old one, easier on the eyes. Wouldn't want to spend any longer than necessary trying to find what I need and hurry up to find the exit to pay as it's so off putting with all the flash imaging.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Mike #1 on January 07, 2015, 03:36:10 pm
I did'nt spend to long on their incase i started fitting
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: chanster00 on January 07, 2015, 03:59:49 pm
why did nat jones do the design?

done my own wish i got him myself
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Bungle on January 07, 2015, 04:01:31 pm
This is what i see.

Same here. To me it looks like a cheap no Mark site now. If I didn't know Gardiners for what they are and I was searching for something on the net and the new site opened up, I'd close the tab without even browsing the site. It's that bad!
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: wightsurf on January 07, 2015, 04:10:23 pm
I keep going in a circle lol . I click on water Fed pole by category and im back on home page...not easy on the eyes , I think the old site was better. Maybe put that back with the added features lol
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: chanster00 on January 07, 2015, 04:15:43 pm
use the menu at the top of page
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Nathanael Jones on January 07, 2015, 04:17:01 pm
Alex has gone bigtime now - its not one of my designs!

Looks great though on a HD screen. :)

why did nat jones do the design?

done my own wish i got him myself
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Richard ham on January 07, 2015, 04:19:56 pm
Hopefully the feedback gets this taken down. It is not a website that speaks " quality " . It looks like a diy website, I would not put my name to it, the old site was better.

My pet hate with websites is incorrect prices, just put the vat on as its going to be added in the cart!!!!! #reallyannoying.

Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 07, 2015, 04:20:56 pm


+ 1
No more PayPal ,didn't see anything wrong with previous site tbh & it worked  ;D

PayPal button is getting put back on  :)

The old site was very basic which did not allow us to handle clients and information in a very comprehensive way. The new site will offer many advantages to the user and also to us as administrators once we have ironed out all of the set-up issues. I have been busy fault-finding and sorting all day as has the development team.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 07, 2015, 04:22:37 pm
I liked the old one too. This one has me confused but, like most new things I'll get used to it soon enough.

We fear change.

It will take some getting used to - I am still not fully used to it.

The 'All Products' tab at the top will probably prove to be one of the easiest ways of navigating when you know what you want as it allows very quick access to nearly everything from one spot.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Mike #1 on January 07, 2015, 04:58:34 pm
Wonder if the A was for Aquadapter looks a similar  site
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Jonny 87 on January 07, 2015, 05:04:32 pm
It works fine for me and I like it.

It must be all you old technophobic guys that are struggling.  ;D
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: ChumBucket on January 07, 2015, 05:09:17 pm
It's fine for me, I quite like it, works fine. :)
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: chanster00 on January 07, 2015, 05:17:21 pm
alex just ordered a SLX-2 25 last couple of orders you sent me a free cap and pen.

for this order i don't need a cap, can you send me a free CLX instead. but if your sold out i,ll happily just settle for a PEN and hose cutter, leave the cap though! x
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Dave Willis on January 07, 2015, 05:20:02 pm
I'll exchange your cap for twenty pens - when I find all the bits.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 07, 2015, 05:22:47 pm
alex just ordered a SLX-2 25 last couple of orders you sent me a free cap and pen.

for this order i don't need a cap, can you send me a free CLX instead. but if your sold out i,ll happily just settle for a PEN and hose cutter, leave the cap though! x

Drop me an email on alex@agardiner.co.uk with your details and I'll pass it on to the workshop  :)
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: mufcglen on January 07, 2015, 05:31:51 pm
i ordered a few bits this afternoon and took a while to navigate but got used to it, i must admit it loos abit diy to me too as some comments said above, i thought the old site looked more business pro even though it was basic but it did exactly what it needed,i also agree with the eyes hurting comment as mine was with the constant drop down menu.
websites move on with time and thats the way it is, hope you get the niggles sorted Alex ;)
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Dave Willis on January 07, 2015, 05:46:03 pm
Just tried to put an order in - registered with the site then tried to go to checkout only to find my password was invalid - gave up!

Pretty sure the old site held your cart contents for a while if you navigated away from it - this one doesn't.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: wfp master on January 07, 2015, 06:14:35 pm
writing is very small when you click on all products.
prefer the old one.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: wfp master on January 07, 2015, 06:21:36 pm
I liked the old one too. This one has me confused but, like most new things I'll get used to it soon enough.

We fear change.

It will take some getting used to - I am still not fully used to it.

The 'All Products' tab at the top will probably prove to be one of the easiest ways of navigating when you know what you want as it allows very quick access to nearly everything from one spot.
thats if you can read whats underneath the all products tab. writing is way to small.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Shane O Neill on January 07, 2015, 06:23:43 pm


+ 1
No more PayPal ,didn't see anything wrong with previous site tbh & it worked  ;D

PayPal button is getting put back on  :)



Great as this options proves very quick to buy ! (Hence why Ryanair now use it ....there is a bit of a Michael O Leary in you Alex  ;) )
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: chanster00 on January 07, 2015, 06:42:18 pm
Another sleepless night for Dazmondo  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

hahahahahaha
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Mike #1 on January 07, 2015, 06:44:44 pm
Looks a lot better on my Kindle than laptop
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: chanster00 on January 07, 2015, 06:45:14 pm
Just tried to put an order in - registered with the site then tried to go to checkout only to find my password was invalid - gave up!

Pretty sure the old site held your cart contents for a while if you navigated away from it - this one doesn't.

same happened here its not that its invalid just do it again and check out its works second time round
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Dave Willis on January 07, 2015, 06:49:56 pm
I did it as a guest in the end.
Looking forward to my free hat!  :D
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: mufcglen on January 07, 2015, 07:35:51 pm
wish i got a hat im sick of those pens and i got a bald head so need one more than those with hair :D
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: pikeman on January 07, 2015, 07:36:15 pm
Happy about paypal being put back on. Got a few things to order paypal makes it that much easier for me doesn't seem like im spending my own money  :D
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Neil Gornall on January 07, 2015, 10:02:22 pm
I need to set up a new van with everything except a tank so just had a look at the new site.
First impressions.... I hate it.
Will try again tomorrow in the hope everything I click on is working. if not I guess I will be using the phone or going elsewhere.
Sorry Alex but not impressed.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: duncan h on January 07, 2015, 10:02:26 pm
Wonder if the A was for Aquadapter looks a similar  site
Was thinking same mate. We are assured its a different person. Thought exceeds new site was for the worse. Gardiner site make me feel sick. Its rubbish. Fantastic quality, just too jumpy. I like to click for something, not hover over it.
DONT LIKE ALEX sorry
Had another go. Cant get used to it. The black drop down at top of page is a pain. It skips from black to log in section.
Just put prices inc VAT. Stop making us guess get calculator out lol.
Testimonial at the bottom of page. Remove it. Anyone visiting your site already knows. Stick it out of the way, if you must have it.
Clicked on SLX and nothing. Had to go to Home Page, then look down
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: wfp master on January 07, 2015, 10:34:30 pm
Hopefully the feedback gets this taken down. It is not a website that speaks " quality " . It looks like a diy website, I would not put my name to it, the old site was better.

My pet hate with websites is incorrect prices, just put the vat on as its going to be added in the cart!!!!! #reallyannoying.


+1 put full price up. #rainbowcolouredwebsite
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: mufcglen on January 07, 2015, 10:40:12 pm
I agree why doesnt everyone not just gardiner put prices inc vat, we have to pay the vat anyway whether we claim it back or not!
The a must stand for athlete as that ehat the little yellow and black logo comes up as only iPhone book mark!
These comments all over other sites and facebook about people's dislikes, hope it gets improved, rather than shut the old site down why not build the new site get it spot on then change the web address over and make it go live when it's tried and tested?
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 07, 2015, 10:47:27 pm
Thanks for all of the feedback - all of it is listened to. We have a growing list of final tweaks needing doing which will make it less flashy in places and more static.

Unfortunately the old website and back office software was archaic and very, very basic. We had to make the difficult and expensive decision to start afresh. With a product option list of the complexity we have, this has meant a lot of work and there was always going to be tweaks needed once it was live and interacting with the real world.

My biggest frustration right now is that the home page sections are not clicking through and are looping back to the home page  ???
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Ste M on January 07, 2015, 10:48:56 pm
as I'm terrible at keeping records, yes i keep the receipts but this helps, i pay for all my equipment through paypal. was about to order a new pole an a spare section for my older sox but there is no paypal function, whens this going to be on the site Alex?
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 07, 2015, 10:56:28 pm
I agree why doesnt everyone not just gardiner put prices inc vat, we have to pay the vat anyway whether we claim it back or not!
The a must stand for athlete as that ehat the little yellow and black logo comes up as only iPhone book mark!
These comments all over other sites and facebook about people's dislikes, hope it gets improved, rather than shut the old site down why not build the new site get it spot on then change the web address over and make it go live when it's tried and tested?

Not as simple to switchover unfortunately  :(

We did want it fully resolved before going live and several of us had spent hundreds of hours at the computers over the break trying to achieve it. However a lot of the issues are coding issues which are not my department and only come to light when on the correct server and live.

The favicon issue is being sorted.

VAT - We have always shown our prices with VAT excluded.  This is fairly standard for 'business to business' websites such as ours . A lot of our clients are VAT registered which also influences our decision.

Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 07, 2015, 10:59:20 pm
as I'm terrible at keeping records, yes i keep the receipts but this helps, i pay for all my equipment through paypal. was about to order a new pole an a spare section for my older sox but there is no paypal function, whens this going to be on the site Alex?

I hope tomorrow or Friday for the Paypal button.

The new system once you have registered will keep a record of all your previous orders and invoices in one convenient place. It also allows you to repeat previous orders or parts thereof.

You will also be able to see your tracking details and order progress through your account dashboard.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Pete Thompson on January 07, 2015, 11:56:06 pm
Terrible site.

That is all.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: mufcglen on January 08, 2015, 12:01:10 am
Cheers Alex hope you get the issues sorted as it stands I don't like the site myself whereas I used to like going on just to browse even If I wasn't buying!!
as it stands the exceed site is winning the best new designed website in my mind!
I just like clicking through the pictures rather than go down the drop down menu's.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: lal on January 08, 2015, 07:24:24 am

 Hi Alex, just tried your new site again this morning and is working way better now, I think its a great site and
 very fast, once you have it fully tweaked and all the issues ironed out, it will have been worth all the hard work.

 Best regards
 Lal
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: supernova77 on January 08, 2015, 07:44:42 am
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Terrible site.

That is all.

That's very constructive  ::)roll

The site looks good to me... People just don't like change, or are slow at getting used to change.

Andy
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Neil Gornall on January 08, 2015, 07:59:41 am
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Terrible site.

That is all.

That's very constructive  ::)roll

The site looks good to me... People just don't like change, or are slow at getting used to change.

Andy
Nothing wrong with change, I am all for it.

But it helps if its change for the better and it does what its meant to. If it detracts from the product and puts the majority of your customers off then its not a good move.
I hope it can get fixed quickly as I am a loyal Gardiners customer and have money to spend in the next few days.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: supernova77 on January 08, 2015, 08:01:56 am
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Nothing wrong with change, I am all for it.

But it helps if its change for the better and it does what its meant to. If it detracts from the product and puts the majority of your customers off then its not a good move.
I hope it can get fixed quickly as I am a loyal Gardiners customer and have money to spend in the next few days.

I've had a look at the site and all products are easy to find - I'm not sure what would stop anyone spending money on their products and deciding to buy elsewhere?

Andy
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Nick_Thompson on January 08, 2015, 08:03:27 am
Does anyone know what could be preventing me from opening the new website.

I keep getting the "Service Temporarily Unavailable" page.

Nick

Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Bay View WCS on January 08, 2015, 08:03:56 am

VAT - We have always shown our prices with VAT excluded.  This is fairly standard for 'business to business' websites such as ours . A lot of our clients are VAT registered which also influences our decision.



I would have thought that the deciding factor would be what percentage of your clients are actually VAT registered; have you taken a survey? Because you may be making the (frequently made) mistake of doing something because it is viewed as 'fairly standard' when you are, in fact, not serving the majority of your customers.

Just a thought

Cheers, Tom
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Dave Willis on January 08, 2015, 08:06:22 am
Does anyone know what could be preventing me from opening the new website.

I keep getting the "Service Temporarily Unavailable" page.

Nick



You need to click on your refresh button.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Nick_Thompson on January 08, 2015, 08:08:41 am
Thanks Dave!

Nick
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Dave Willis on January 08, 2015, 08:13:45 am
................ and then put your sunglasses on. I think anyone who suffers from epilepsy should look away.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: JackieW on January 08, 2015, 09:59:52 am
I always thought the old site was one of the selling points of gardiners. Simple honest and straightforward.

The new one is very garish. The home page on my chrome is a busy mess.

The rest of the site is very flashy.

Best wishes with tweaking it though
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Richard iSparkle on January 08, 2015, 11:34:30 am
I don't like this new site as it is currently :(

for me the user experience is not good, with the pictures zooming in, menus flashing up, far too busy for me...

it reminds me of a 1990's website where people were trying to be flash and clever. modern sites tend to be stripped back and clear to navigate IMHO

hope in the testing period you can sort a lot of this out tho
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: robbo333 on January 08, 2015, 11:46:07 am
Personally, I'm not a fan of the new website, but then it's not my business so I don't really care!
However, I think it is a shame that the look and feel of the new site does not reflect the high standards of quality and customer care that I have always received from Gardiners.
PS the typeface is shocking and I can't even read the text on one page. That's not bad design, that's simply wrong!
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Richard iSparkle on January 08, 2015, 11:48:53 am
it reminds me of the grippatank website which is a pain too..
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Ronnie Bryce on January 08, 2015, 11:55:32 am
Just been on. Man that is really bad, I need a lie down after all that flashing around.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: wightsurf on January 08, 2015, 12:04:52 pm
On the 400 liter tank page these link takes me back to home page also Click Here to See the Nylon Tank Fitting Elbow....Click Here to See the Nylon Reducing Bush for Tanks
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 08, 2015, 12:16:28 pm
On the 400 liter tank page these link takes me back to home page also Click Here to See the Nylon Tank Fitting Elbow....Click Here to See the Nylon Reducing Bush for Tanks

Those links have now been sorted on the 400 litre size and are being sorted on all the other sizes
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Soupy on January 08, 2015, 12:40:20 pm
Just having a surf about and I've bought 2 hose reels for £0.00!!


Yay me!
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Soupy on January 08, 2015, 12:43:05 pm
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1420720980_Capture.JPG)
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Soupy on January 08, 2015, 12:45:40 pm
Think I'll buy some spares!

 ;D
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 08, 2015, 12:49:43 pm
Just having a surf about and I've bought 2 hose reels for £0.00!!


Yay me!

This was a small error - had me panicking though  ;D

I have made a rather hurried call to the developers and it has been rectified - it was not just reels that it was affecting.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Soupy on January 08, 2015, 12:56:09 pm
Just having a surf about and I've bought 2 hose reels for £0.00!!


Yay me!

This a pricing glitch and is an error  ???

I have made a rather hurried call to the developers as I think one of them is messing around with pricing discount right now causing these strange occurrences.

I know, I never completed the purchase, you wanted £90 delivery  ::)roll

 ;D
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 08, 2015, 01:05:44 pm
Just having a surf about and I've bought 2 hose reels for £0.00!!


Yay me!

This a pricing glitch and is an error  ???

I have made a rather hurried call to the developers as I think one of them is messing around with pricing discount right now causing these strange occurrences.

I know, I never completed the purchase, you wanted £90 delivery  ::)roll

 ;D

 ;D
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Jakey boy on January 08, 2015, 01:07:09 pm
Give a month and everyone will love it, it's just getting used to change.

One thing that does need improving Alex, is the mobile optimisation, it's not user friendly on the iPhone, which many people use as there primary source of web searching nowadays...

Give it time, it'll soon be a favourite, dazmond is now running around stark naked in delight that the website is now back.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Bill.upnw on January 08, 2015, 01:14:38 pm
i do prefer the old website to be ohnest

and if im being picky the prices without vat included is annoying.

just my 2 cents
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 08, 2015, 01:32:29 pm
i do prefer the old website to be ohnest

and if im being picky the prices without vat included is annoying.

just my 2 cents

We do appreciate and take note of all feedback.

With regard to the VAT exclusive pricing it is interesting that no one has mentioned about this as a problem in the previous 10 years of displaying them like this on our old website.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Soupy on January 08, 2015, 01:35:36 pm
The VAT inc or ex is not really an issue. It's normal.

There are quite a few links that don't work though. Ts&Cs, Blog, Returns, Shipping details all dead.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Soupy on January 08, 2015, 01:37:47 pm
It would appear they are trying to link to http://www.puregardiner.uk/ whereas working links link to http://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 08, 2015, 01:43:30 pm
It would appear they are trying to link to http://www.puregardiner.uk/ whereas working links link to http://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/

Thanks Soupy I think that you're right. I will pass this on.

I'd offer you a job if you were not so successful already  :)

Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Soupy on January 08, 2015, 01:53:17 pm
It would appear they are trying to link to http://www.puregardiner.uk/ whereas working links link to http://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/

Thanks Soupy I think that you're right. I will pass this on.

I'd offer you a job if you were not so successful already  :)



The bill is on it's way.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: duncan h on January 08, 2015, 02:03:15 pm
Drastic changes needed. The top of home page is a mess. Scroll up and down an I go into fits. Try it Alex. Really annoying.
If its + vat, so be it. Just make is none flashy. We just want to be able to find what we want without fuss. Basic works. Don't spoil what works. I don't mind change. Stops things getting boring, but must say its too fussy. Remove testimonial of homepage and put lint to items there. Put in bottom corner a link to testimonials, but not a massive chunk out of main page. We will keep nagging you until you sort it  ;D It sour favourite site. As someone said. I like to have a look. If like me, end up spending
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 08, 2015, 02:42:29 pm
Drastic changes needed. The top of home page is a mess. Scroll up and down an I go into fits. Try it Alex. Really annoying.
If its + vat, so be it. Just make is none flashy. We just want to be able to find what we want without fuss. Basic works. Don't spoil what works. I don't mind change. Stops things getting boring, but must say its too fussy. Remove testimonial of homepage and put lint to items there. Put in bottom corner a link to testimonials, but not a massive chunk out of main page. We will keep nagging you until you sort it  ;D It sour favourite site. As someone said. I like to have a look. If like me, end up spending

Hi duncan h

Thanks for your constructive criticism. I appreciate the time that all are spending browsing, checking it all out.

Home page issues seem to be the main problem here. I have already flagged the jumpiness up for resolution with developers. Once again this worked smoothly on the test server on the test domain for several months until going live.

We do have several things in place to tidy up/clarify  the home page though which we will be working on over the next few days. Most of my inputting work has been to make sure all the product pages are correct with correct options so that clients can buy correctly. We have tried to make each product (once you get to it) much clearer and we feel they have the same simplicity as the old websites product pages. In reality this is where clients spend their time rather than the home page. What's your thoughts on a product page such as this once you get to it? - http://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/all-products/water-fed-poles/telescopic-poles/slx-ii-carbon-fibre-pole/pole-slx-22.html

Testimonials - obviously to our repeat customers these are of no value whatsoever! However in terms of building trust with new visitors they can have a very effective impact on their buying and trust decisions - much research has been done on this subject over the years. It is trying to get a balance on this area.

We are getting rid of the most viewed and best-sellers lists from the home page though as most visitors will not find this of value.

Still a good bit of sorting to be done  :)
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Soupy on January 08, 2015, 02:45:12 pm
What are the 'downloadable products'?

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1420728307_Capture.JPG)
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 08, 2015, 03:11:22 pm
What are the 'downloadable products'?

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1420728307_Capture.JPG)

If we were to start selling software or e-books this would be where you could control the download and delivery of these items. I may look at getting this visibility removed as we are not planning on selling either at this time.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: hasti on January 08, 2015, 03:16:43 pm
Hi Alex, i don't know why you didn't get Nat to do your web site, every one knows on here that he does a great job.

Also you want a web site like this:

https://www.engelbert-strauss.co.uk

Such a great website to shop nice and easy.

Just my thought  ;)
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: wfp master on January 08, 2015, 03:47:29 pm
i think alex has been ripped off. whoever designed that site must have been tripping on acid.
#rainbowcolouredwebsite
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Soupy on January 08, 2015, 03:47:41 pm
Hi Alex, i don't know why you didn't get Nat to do your web site, every one knows on here that he does a great job.

Also you want a web site like this:

https://www.engelbert-strauss.co.uk

Such a great website to shop nice and easy.

Just my thought  ;)

Each to their own. I hate that website!!  ;D
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: wightsurf on January 08, 2015, 03:59:56 pm
Alex , I like the product page just the home page in my opinion that needs work, even getting it to work would be a start lol
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: hasti on January 08, 2015, 04:45:40 pm
Hi Alex, i don't know why you didn't get Nat to do your web site, every one knows on here that he does a great job.

Also you want a web site like this:

https://www.engelbert-strauss.co.uk

Such a great website to shop nice and easy.

Just my thought  ;)

Each to their own. I hate that website!!  ;D

Really ? Thats one of the most organised web site i have come a cross. Its GERMAN of course  ;)
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: wfp master on January 08, 2015, 05:00:56 pm
Wonder if the A was for Aquadapter looks a similar  site
the A has changed to a G now. why would you have an A when the site name begins with a G. ::)roll 
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 08, 2015, 05:13:14 pm
i think alex has been ripped off. whoever designed that site must have been tripping on acid.
#rainbowcolouredwebsite


The costly part is to do with what goes on behind the scenes. We had to have a custom build due to the complexity of our product options and components involved - for instance a simple brush option on a pole is actual made of 10 components that need inventory tracking. Just 1 pole can generate up to 8125 product combinations - with 24 different poles this gives 195,000 product combinations for the site to keep track of just from our poles alone. The new site is able to track product inventory down to each component part of the 195,000 pole combinations - there was nothing available on the market off-the-shelf that would allow us full component inventory tracking through so many product options and sub-bundle levels.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: duncan h on January 08, 2015, 05:18:02 pm
Hi Alex, i don't know why you didn't get Nat to do your web site, every one knows on here that he does a great job.

Also you want a web site like this:

https://www.engelbert-strauss.co.uk

Such a great website to shop nice and easy.

Just my thought  ;)
Its horrendous. Whats with all this popup screen from top AND bottom
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: slap bash on January 08, 2015, 05:22:48 pm
STILL NOT WORKING FOR ME.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: mufcglen on January 08, 2015, 05:25:25 pm
i think alex has been ripped off. whoever designed that site must have been tripping on acid.
#rainbowcolouredwebsite


The costly part is to do with what goes on behind the scenes. We had to have a custom build due to the complexity of our product options and components involved - for instance a simple brush option on a pole is actual made of 10 components that need inventory tracking. Just 1 pole can generate up to 8125 product combinations - with 24 different poles this gives 195,000 product combinations for the site to keep track of just from our poles alone. The new site is able to track product inventory down to each component part of the 195,000 pole combinations - there was nothing available on the market off-the-shelf that would allow us full component inventory tacking through so many product options and sub-bundle levels.

Alex is spot on, if you go on other pole makers sites they dont have half the options his does when selecting what you want or dont want with the poles, another thing i liked about gardiner is the fact that you can order every single bit of your pole online from them, everything from clamps to screws, dont think theres any other pole manufacture give you that option and the reason why theyre service is second to none.
i put an order in yesterday recieved today dinner super fast as always however they got the brush connector wrong so i emailed Alex he replied within minutes and has arranged a new one to be sent out.
top service and the site is starting to grow on me the more i navigate it ;)
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: duncan h on January 08, 2015, 05:26:08 pm
Drastic changes needed. The top of home page is a mess. Scroll up and down an I go into fits. Try it Alex. Really annoying.
If its + vat, so be it. Just make is none flashy. We just want to be able to find what we want without fuss. Basic works. Don't spoil what works. I don't mind change. Stops things getting boring, but must say its too fussy. Remove testimonial of homepage and put lint to items there. Put in bottom corner a link to testimonials, but not a massive chunk out of main page. We will keep nagging you until you sort it  ;D It sour favourite site. As someone said. I like to have a look. If like me, end up spending

Hi duncan h

Thanks for your constructive criticism. I appreciate the time that all are spending browsing, checking it all out.

Home page issues seem to be the main problem here. I have already flagged the jumpiness up for resolution with developers. Once again this worked smoothly on the test server on the test domain for several months until going live.

We do have several things in place to tidy up/clarify  the home page though which we will be working on over the next few days. Most of my inputting work has been to make sure all the product pages are correct with correct options so that clients can buy correctly. We have tried to make each product (once you get to it) much clearer and we feel they have the same simplicity as the old websites product pages. In reality this is where clients spend their time rather than the home page. What's your thoughts on a product page such as this once you get to it? - http://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/all-products/water-fed-poles/telescopic-poles/slx-ii-carbon-fibre-pole/pole-slx-22.html

Testimonials - obviously to our repeat customers these are of no value whatsoever! However in terms of building trust with new visitors they can have a very effective impact on their buying and trust decisions - much research has been done on this subject over the years. It is trying to get a balance on this area.

We are getting rid of the most viewed and best-sellers lists from the home page though as most visitors will not find this of value.

Still a good bit of sorting to be done  :)
In general fine.
Hate the popup top section, that goes from My acc/wish list/blog etc. You scroll down and it changes slightly. Leave it with log in screen on.
On the page itself. Fine no problem.
NOTE I had an issue when I first clicked link. It loaded and looked different. Did it again, fine.

Stop slagging who Alex chose to do his site. Its paid for, now he needs to get it sorted...poop as it is lmao
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: mufcglen on January 08, 2015, 05:26:24 pm
STILL NOT WORKING FOR ME.

need to refresh it pal or clear your history and retype the site in, a few people have said the same thing its your browser :)
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Don Kee on January 08, 2015, 05:46:13 pm
Hi alex

Mobile site looks good  :)

Only thing is one of your banners at the top doesn't fit the screen (mobile site)
Minor thing to be honest, the rest is fine  :)
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 08, 2015, 05:55:01 pm
Wonder if the A was for Aquadapter looks a similar  site
the A has changed to a G now. why would you have an A when the site name begins with a G. ::)roll 

Perhaps

A = Alex
G = Gardiner

 ;D
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: tlwcs on January 08, 2015, 05:58:15 pm
Wonder if the A was for Aquadapter looks a similar  site
the A has changed to a G now. why would you have an A when the site name begins with a G. ::)roll 

Perhaps

A = Alex
G = Gardiner



 ;D

No ones that clever  ;D
New site, old site, either its going to cost me a fortune.
Tony
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Clever Forum Name on January 08, 2015, 06:06:50 pm
Wonder if the A was for Aquadapter looks a similar  site
the A has changed to a G now. why would you have an A when the site name begins with a G. ::)roll 

Oh dear
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Clever Forum Name on January 08, 2015, 06:11:57 pm
Alex am i right in thinking there is a picture of a new brush on the site now ? ;)
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Paul erithwc on January 08, 2015, 07:20:21 pm
A categorie for new products would be nice i liked checking that section on the old site for new produts due to be released.

Paul
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: PoleKing on January 08, 2015, 08:06:36 pm
I like the site on iPad.

Alex, £420 +VAT for the Hannay manual is expensive.
Bridge Engineering are doing them for £310+VAT.
I can't think you're making that as extra profit ???
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: duncan h on January 08, 2015, 08:10:58 pm
A categorie for new products would be nice i liked check that section on the old site for new produts due to be released.

Paul
I agree. It now says HOT scattered all over
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: craig21t on January 08, 2015, 08:27:21 pm
I like the site on iPad.

Alex, £420 +VAT for the Hannay manual is expensive.
Bridge Engineering are doing them for £310+VAT.
I can't think you're making that as extra profit ???

Someone has to pay for the new website ;D
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: SB Cleaning on January 08, 2015, 08:30:59 pm
I don't like this new site as it is currently :(

for me the user experience is not good, with the pictures zooming in, menus flashing up, far too busy for me...

it reminds me of a 1990's website where people were trying to be flash and clever. modern sites tend to be stripped back and clear to navigate IMHO

hope in the testing period you can sort a lot of this out tho
I agree. ..

The last site was much better..
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: wfp master on January 08, 2015, 08:49:11 pm
I don't like this new site as it is currently :(

for me the user experience is not good, with the pictures zooming in, menus flashing up, far too busy for me...

it reminds me of a 1990's website where people were trying to be flash and clever. modern sites tend to be stripped back and clear to navigate IMHO

hope in the testing period you can sort a lot of this out tho
I agree. ..

The last site was much better..
+1. lets have a poll. ;D
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: duncan h on January 08, 2015, 09:35:21 pm
I don't like this new site as it is currently :(

for me the user experience is not good, with the pictures zooming in, menus flashing up, far too busy for me...

it reminds me of a 1990's website where people were trying to be flash and clever. modern sites tend to be stripped back and clear to navigate IMHO

hope in the testing period you can sort a lot of this out tho
I agree. ..

The last site was much better..
+1. lets have a poll. ;D
think we know the outcome 90% like old better lmao
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 08, 2015, 10:42:45 pm
A categorie for new products would be nice i liked checking that section on the old site for new produts due to be released.

Paul

Hi Paul

Thanks for the feedback.

There's a What's New section now  :)
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 08, 2015, 10:44:03 pm
A categorie for new products would be nice i liked check that section on the old site for new produts due to be released.

Paul
I agree. It now says HOT scattered all over

Doesn't anymore - that was a software default which has now been removed  :)
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 08, 2015, 10:52:13 pm
I like the site on iPad.

Alex, £420 +VAT for the Hannay manual is expensive.
Bridge Engineering are doing them for £310+VAT.
I can't think you're making that as extra profit ???

PoleKing - The £419 is with top mounted roller which for some reason I cannot get the preview of the product to remove from the price (although when on the product itself the price is correct). Our current retail is £393 which is Hannay's UK RRP. The specification of these reels can vary greatly so it would be interesting to know what specification the one from Bridge Engineering is.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: kempy on January 09, 2015, 06:54:44 am
I've been on the website and it see so fine . It will become second nature after a few purchases .
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Walter Mitty on January 09, 2015, 08:09:17 am
Just having a surf about and I've bought 2 hose reels for £0.00!!


Yay me!

They are probably out of stock really.  All the out of stock items are free !  :)
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Roy Harding on January 09, 2015, 08:21:45 am
I took a look at the site when it first went up and a lot of links did not work, but now a big improvement.
With everyone's feed back I'm sure Alex will get it right as he does listen.

Roy
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: chanster00 on January 09, 2015, 11:34:56 am
Does anyone know what could be preventing me from opening the new website.

I keep getting the "Service Temporarily Unavailable" page.

Nick



try clearing your cookies
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Bay View WCS on January 09, 2015, 05:22:43 pm
Does anyone know what could be preventing me from opening the new website.

I keep getting the "Service Temporarily Unavailable" page.

Nick



try clearing your cookies

Careful - I ended up very fat doing that
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Dave Turley on January 10, 2015, 06:59:44 pm
I've just had a look on my iPad and it seemed ok to me.
I don't like the way that as you scroll up or down, whichever product you touched on to scroll comes up with a "quick view" window.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: duncan h on January 10, 2015, 08:04:20 pm
A categorie for new products would be nice i liked check that section on the old site for new produts due to be released.

Paul
I agree. It now says HOT scattered all over

Doesn't anymore - that was a software default which has now been removed  :)
Getting better Alex. Now sort the black top header from flicking when a scroll down. Move testimonial to a small link and replace with stock. Ill be much happier. You will get there. Remember, basic not flashy  ;)
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 10, 2015, 08:27:29 pm
A categorie for new products would be nice i liked check that section on the old site for new produts due to be released.

Paul
I agree. It now says HOT scattered all over

Doesn't anymore - that was a software default which has now been removed  :)
Getting better Alex. Now sort the black top header from flicking when a scroll down. Move testimonial to a small link and replace with stock. Ill be much happier. You will get there. Remember, basic not flashy  ;)

The top header only seems to jump down on certain computers. My PC running Chrome and Firefox is not jumping from this it just smoothly scrolls down back into view when moving down the page. However on my wife's iMac running Safari and Firefox it jumps down suddenly, which is annoying her as well. Doesn't seem to do this jumping on iPhones or iPads either. I will be talking with the developers to see if there is a reason why it is jumpy on some screens/operating systems.

Whilst I would not want the site to be too flashy it is good to catch casual browser's attention if possible. Once you are off the home page though, there is virtually no flashiness with just very clear product presentation - this is where our clients spend most of their time whilst on the site.

Lots more still to do though until I am happy with it  :)
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Paul erithwc on January 10, 2015, 08:54:39 pm
I have gardiners site in my favorites but i have the link set to http://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/all-products.html so i don't see the home page.

The only thing that i find a pain is the quick view load time on my pc its around 8 - 10 secs but it might be my pc ipad is better for load times
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Tom-01 on January 10, 2015, 09:01:23 pm
To be honest most of us on here know what we want to buy before we even go to the site, so it's just a case of it looking slightly different. And when all the little problems are ironed out it will be quick to order. It's only because it's different to what we are used to that it might not 'seem as good as the last one'.

And for anyone new to window cleaning or Gardiners products it's a very 'salesy' website which is good for Gardiners.

Will I buy poles and equipment elsewhere because the new site might have a flashy bit too it? No I wouldn't.

So from a Gardiners business point of view I wouldn't be worried at all, it's definitely win for them and for all concerned.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Ian101 on January 11, 2015, 12:39:10 am
Alex ... just to let you know the resin calculator has gone ?? ... now links to homepage  :(
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Dave Willis on January 11, 2015, 07:34:33 am
In the basket section I didn't notice any special delivery requests (like leave the parcel in the stables) is it still there?
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: duncan h on January 11, 2015, 10:47:31 am
To be honest most of us on here know what we want to buy before we even go to the site, so it's just a case of it looking slightly different. And when all the little problems are ironed out it will be quick to order. It's only because it's different to what we are used to that it might not 'seem as good as the last one'.

And for anyone new to window cleaning or Gardiners products it's a very 'salesy' website which is good for Gardiners.

Will I buy poles and equipment elsewhere because the new site might have a flashy bit too it? No I wouldn't.

So from a Gardiners business point of view I wouldn't be worried at all, it's definitely win for them and for all concerned.
Your wrong.
Loads on here like to window shop. Even if we don't need anything lmao. Don't do it on any other site other than flea bay
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Ian101 on January 11, 2015, 02:18:17 pm
In the basket section I didn't notice any special delivery requests (like leave the parcel in the stables) is it still there?

Stables ... ur posh  ;D
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Ian101 on January 13, 2015, 04:12:39 pm
The big black header dropping down when scrolling is VERY annoying !
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: duncan h on January 13, 2015, 05:13:14 pm
The big black header dropping down when scrolling is VERY annoying !
VERY VERY ANNOYING
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: wfp master on January 13, 2015, 05:34:37 pm
unless its a pole i'am buying i wont be using it. its just not user friendly other sites are a lot easier to find things.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: slap bash on January 13, 2015, 08:25:39 pm
Has gardeners web address changed as I still do get it yet.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: duncan h on January 13, 2015, 08:41:37 pm
Has gardeners web address changed as I still do get it yet.
its the same http://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 13, 2015, 08:57:55 pm
The big black header dropping down when scrolling is VERY annoying !

I agree :)

It is going and this will also stop pages jumping on some browsers.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Ian101 on January 14, 2015, 06:43:45 am
The big black header dropping down when scrolling is VERY annoying !

I agree :)

It is going and this will also stop pages jumping on some browsers.

  :D good to hear .... btw resin calculator no longer there ... links to homepage now ??
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 14, 2015, 08:21:41 am
Thanks Ian101.  I've changed the text to show it needs re-constructing.  Hopefully it will be sorted soon as it's very useful.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Ian101 on January 14, 2015, 08:25:35 am
Thanks Ian101.  I've changed the text to show it needs re-constructing.  Hopefully it will be sorted soon as it's very useful.

yup handy thing to refer to .. thanks Alex  :)
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 14, 2015, 08:26:55 am
There isn't as yet and I have asked the developers to get it back on.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 14, 2015, 08:29:08 am
I have gardiners site in my favorites but i have the link set to http://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/all-products.html so i don't see the home page.

The only thing that i find a pain is the quick view load time on my pc its around 8 - 10 secs but it might be my pc ipad is better for load times

We also have been monitoring this and the quickest the 'Quick View' (ironic I know) loads seems to be about 3-4 seconds which is still too long.  I have raised this with the developers and they are yet to get back to me on this.  I like the result of the Quick View, but if it can't be sped up it might have to go.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: duncan h on January 14, 2015, 11:10:58 am
You will get it all sorted in the end....we hope  ;)
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: duncan h on January 14, 2015, 11:16:48 am
Just had a look.  :o no more flicking. Much Much better
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: mufcglen on January 14, 2015, 03:00:00 pm
from not liking it at all its grown on me now ive been on it a few times and all the jumping pages that have gone seem much better and its fairly easy to navigate around now.
think before there was too much going on!
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: duncan h on January 14, 2015, 08:49:07 pm
from not liking it at all its grown on me now ive been on it a few times and all the jumping pages that have gone seem much better and its fairly easy to navigate around now.
think before there was too much going on!
but wouldn't you agree, old site was better and quicker?
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: mufcglen on January 14, 2015, 10:25:36 pm
I have to admit I still prefer the old site and I don't think you'll ever get a more surfer friendly site than that as it was Abit more basic and even though you had to go through various pages to get to say an slx pole you got there easy enough by clicking through the pics in the squares, almost child friendly lol
I'm sure Alex had a long hard think about it and must have needed a drastic change to update the whole website so we just have to move with the times and I'm sure the more we use it the better or easier it will become, I personally wouldn't stop buying gardiner equipment just because a website wasn't great though but it is nice to go online from time to time and have a browse, this website doesn't encourage me to do that, I've spent money in the past that I didn't need to just by browsing now I'll probably just go on when I need something new.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: pikeman on January 15, 2015, 05:48:36 pm
Is the paypal button back on cant see it
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Neil Gornall on January 15, 2015, 07:26:06 pm
Is it just me or is the site down? I just get "Error 503" what ever that means  ???
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: KLEENAWAY on January 15, 2015, 07:48:37 pm
Iv had a bit of a nightmare with the site today, i wanted to buy a slx 30 this morning and for what ever reason it wouldn't let me. Then it was saying they were all out of stock. After trying for hours in between work i rang them and left a msg, got a call back ten mins later and was told i wouldn't be able to get the pole until Monday, i needed the pole for Sunday so i asked if i could pay extra and get it sent any other way. I have to pay an extra £22 to get it on Saturday now :'( !

I still havent even ordered it or looked at the brushes, taps, goosenecks ect because they told me to do it this afternoon (now) and its still not working!

Danny
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 15, 2015, 09:26:08 pm
Iv had a bit of a nightmare with the site today, i wanted to buy a slx 30 this morning and for what ever reason it wouldn't let me. Then it was saying they were all out of stock. After trying for hours in between work i rang them and left a msg, got a call back ten mins later and was told i wouldn't be able to get the pole until Monday, i needed the pole for Sunday so i asked if i could pay extra and get it sent any other way. I have to pay an extra £22 to get it on Saturday now :'( !

I still havent even ordered it or looked at the brushes, taps, goosenecks ect because they told me to do it this afternoon (now) and its still not working!

Danny

Hi Danny

I have sent you an email which should be of use to you  :)

It has been a very frustrating day at times  for the staff and myself - let alone our clients :(
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: duncan h on January 15, 2015, 09:39:03 pm
Poor Alex. I bet he wishes he left it alone now  :D
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 15, 2015, 09:55:21 pm
Site is back up and running now  :)
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 15, 2015, 09:57:13 pm
Poor Alex. I bet he wishes he left it alone now  :D

It would have been easier in the short term  :)

In the long term however the new system will be far better able to cope with the demands being placed on the back office part of the software. The previous system would cause a lot more unknown stress to the staff on a regular basis with system freezing and crashing because we were asking too much from it on our server based system.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: KLEENAWAY on January 15, 2015, 10:10:21 pm
Iv had a bit of a nightmare with the site today, i wanted to buy a slx 30 this morning and for what ever reason it wouldn't let me. Then it was saying they were all out of stock. After trying for hours in between work i rang them and left a msg, got a call back ten mins later and was told i wouldn't be able to get the pole until Monday, i needed the pole for Sunday so i asked if i could pay extra and get it sent any other way. I have to pay an extra £22 to get it on Saturday now :'( !

I still havent even ordered it or looked at the brushes, taps, goosenecks ect because they told me to do it this afternoon (now) and its still not working!

Danny

Hi Danny

I have sent you an email which should be of use to you  :)

It has been a very frustrating day at times  for the staff and myself - let alone our clients :(

Cheers Alex, will be ringing first thing to sort

Danny
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on January 19, 2015, 05:36:20 pm
just tried to get some stuff put my card details in and clicked all the boxes put asnt said weather its done or any thing ????? shopping cart still as my stuff in yet as the order been placed or not ???? grrrr
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: duncan h on January 19, 2015, 05:40:11 pm
New web sites doing well :) click again, until it says you have and basket empty. Or use a phone :)
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on January 19, 2015, 05:43:55 pm
New web sites doing well :) click again, until it says you have and basket empty. Or use a phone :)

just rand them and left a message  ;D
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: dd on January 22, 2015, 09:48:23 am
just tried to get some stuff put my card details in and clicked all the boxes put asnt said weather its done or any thing ????? shopping cart still as my stuff in yet as the order been placed or not ???? grrrr
I have just had exactly the same thing.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: duncan h on January 22, 2015, 04:00:16 pm
I had problems with pictures not loading. The site is the pits Alex. I would want a refund and get another one :)
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Dave Willis on January 22, 2015, 10:27:44 pm
Gardiners credit page - what's that all about Alex?
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 25, 2015, 04:20:29 pm
Gardiners credit page - what's that all about Alex?

This is for any credits that are made to your account - perhaps because of a changed order or returned goods. It allows you to spend any account credit with us as a payment method.

When clients login in to their account on the website they can see what credit they have and even 'transfer' this to someone else to use  if they want.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 25, 2015, 04:21:34 pm
Is the paypal button back on cant see it

The PayPal button is now back on - it is an option on every product and is also a payment option on the checkout pages  :)
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: rosskesava on January 25, 2015, 04:24:53 pm
It's only a very minor point and it makes no difference but why are some of the pictures so naff?
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 25, 2015, 04:29:50 pm
It's only a very minor point and it makes no difference but why are some of the pictures so naff?

Because they are old naff pictures! - Also some need re-sizing for the new display properties.

I have a new 'pop-up studio' ready to go through and re-photo all of our existing catalogue. However I want to get all of the functional parts of the new website working before taking the time to do this.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: rosskesava on January 25, 2015, 04:32:31 pm
Alex - thanks for the reply.

I was just curious as the rest of the website is pretty much 5 star, and easy to use.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: LWC on January 25, 2015, 04:32:54 pm
Just tried to checkout with Paypal and had this Alex

PAYPAL GATEWAY HAS REJECTED REQUEST. BILLING ADDRESS REQUEST IS NOT ENABLED FOR MERCHANT (#11601: REQUEST FOR BILLING ADDRESS FAILED).
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 25, 2015, 04:38:09 pm
Just tried to checkout with Paypal and had this Alex

PAYPAL GATEWAY HAS REJECTED REQUEST. BILLING ADDRESS REQUEST IS NOT ENABLED FOR MERCHANT (#11601: REQUEST FOR BILLING ADDRESS FAILED).

Just sorted it - could you try again?
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: LWC on January 25, 2015, 04:39:07 pm
Just paid with card oops  ;D
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: LWC on January 25, 2015, 04:42:29 pm
But i have got to order something for my mate separately, one sec, ill try again

Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 25, 2015, 04:42:35 pm
Just paid with card oops  ;D

No worries  :)
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: LWC on January 25, 2015, 04:46:14 pm
Worked that time Alex  ;)

Paypal is great on sites, just so easy to login than get your debit card out
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 25, 2015, 05:15:42 pm
Worked that time Alex  ;)

Paypal is great on sites, just so easy to login than get your debit card out

Glad it is working now  :)

I agree that it is often easier to hit the PayPal button then anything else.
Title: Re: Gardiner's website
Post by: duncan h on January 25, 2015, 06:02:22 pm
It's only a very minor point and it makes no difference but why are some of the pictures so naff?

Because they are old naff pictures! - Also some need re-sizing for the new display properties.

I have a new 'pop-up studio' ready to go through and re-photo all of our existing catalogue. However I want to get all of the functional parts of the new website working before taking the time to do this.
Pictures didn't load this afternoon