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C-N-C

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Re: D.I.Y stop our freezing water ...NO WORK
« Reply #60 on: December 04, 2010, 01:08:06 pm »
About 13 months ago I was asked why I thought it useful to insulate my van tank and put an oil filled rad in my van overnight - inasmuch as how can the heat from the oil filled rad get to the tank water through the insulation?

The insulation is to keep the tank water at a higher temperature. (I didn't mention that I sometimes drop a pond heater into the filler hole)

The oilfilled rad is to keep the hoses, pump, battery, poles and brushes warm.



Hiya Gormless Gold  mate...
Iv always had to heat van all night in icey temps...to keep everything warm....strange to ask ya that question,we all need to keep water etc from freezing....
But when ya get to work it dont take long for water to freeze  running through reels etc....
My tank is insulated,well most of it is,so im going to direct heat under tank all night to keep it warm ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Pond heater was a option,but mate,saves me getting heaters in & out of van & not worrying about dripping condensation onto extention leads etc &
i have even been known to drive away without unplugging heaters from garage socket......didnt realise until i got 2 miles down road to garage & someone said"youv got a wire trailing behind you,with a socket still attached"...LOL  mad in it!!!


Thank you mate & take care
Justin ;)
www.clean-n-clearwindows.co.uk

Gav Camm lammy 283

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Re: D.I.Y stop our freezing water ...NO WORK
« Reply #61 on: December 04, 2010, 02:46:26 pm »
Hiya guy's ;)
Thank you for that matt...didnt know ya could get a additive to stop water freezing man :o :o

I think imi know im going to get the heater wot gav and jsm got....
thank you again bud...
Take care man
Justin ;)

Hiya gav mate ;) once u got it m8 youl need a gas bottle
red one lol ok its 425 but thats all tax deductable m8
n no more lost days system wont get damaged
ie frozen pump splitting pumps r say £70
or worse hose knackered more dosh
1 off payment for heater which will work whilst
u driving van is always toasty hot gear is not damaged
simples  ;D ;D ;D
Makes sense now man..
Got ya e mail bud ;)
Going to try & order 1 now mate.....wot if we get months of bad icey weather.....im getting ready now man..LOL

Just off to bank...then phone bluebird c if they open today & get my order in...prob do it on-line if they shut...
Let ya know how i get on man ;)
Big thank you again gav mate,ya sound man

Kindest regards
Justin ;)
LET YOUR PANES BE MY PLEASURE

"If CALSBERG did WINDOW CLEANING
 it would be C.C.C  Probably the best WINDOW CLEANERS IN THE WORLD ..........."

C-N-C

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Re: D.I.Y stop our freezing water ...NO WORK
« Reply #62 on: December 04, 2010, 02:53:14 pm »
Right Gav mate...
Ordered it 10 minutes ago..... ;)
Let ya know when i get it bud...how long does the delivery normaly take bud?
Av to go now man,our lass & kids wanna go shoppin...catch ya later fella ;)
Take care mate & thank you
Justin ;)

suds window service

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Re: D.I.Y stop our freezing water ...NO WORK
« Reply #63 on: December 04, 2010, 03:09:48 pm »
Hiya Guy's....
Hittin us all now our nightmare :-\,frozen pipes,reels,tanks...the list goes on........ :'(
Nothing worse than going to work to find out nawt working,jets froze,reels froze....etc....

if we had warmish water in our tanks or some sort ov van aux heater to keep the van from freezing...we would be fine.....
You can buy a fishtank heater etc for a tenner....240v keeps water at the temp u want.....i know diff volt but theres gadgets to change that.
U can buy a parrafin heater cheap........keep the van warm(stinks tho :)) ???
carnt ex drive about & leave it burning away ::)

Surely there must be something we can all use to keep our water at a temp to use on a cold day?
The price ov the thermo....  hot water systems are stupid....even the cheaper add ons £3000 plus....EH!!!!!!
You can buy a combi-boiler for fraction price
Are these company's cashin in on our needs....its not realistic paying that sort ov coin for a few weeks ov ice
Just rammbiling on ::),but i'd be very intrested if anyone gave it a go at a diy system etc......

HAPPY CHRISTMAS FELLA'S

Kindest regards

J
hi mate iam 10 miles down the road so i knoww what you,re going through!
i have a 600l tank i put 2 300w aquarium heaters in over night and had  warmish water in the tank which enabled me to work today and tomorrow no probs.
 theres nothing which would have helped during the week the weather and roads where just too bad.
we also put a heater in the van overnight on a frost setting.
                                                 dave.

Gav Camm lammy 283

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Re: D.I.Y stop our freezing water ...NO WORK
« Reply #64 on: December 04, 2010, 03:37:47 pm »
these propex heaters r not like any other van heaters
they will keep yr vans systems safe n van red hot ;D ;D
LET YOUR PANES BE MY PLEASURE

"If CALSBERG did WINDOW CLEANING
 it would be C.C.C  Probably the best WINDOW CLEANERS IN THE WORLD ..........."

Griffus

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Re: D.I.Y stop our freezing water ...NO WORK
« Reply #65 on: December 04, 2010, 03:45:28 pm »
I've not read through all replies so apologies if this has already been suggested.

You guys spend a small fortune on equipment so maybe consider a small night heater, just like you'll find in sleeper cabs (trucks).

As an ex-trucker I can vouch for the 'toastie' qualities.


Gav Camm lammy 283

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Re: D.I.Y stop our freezing water ...NO WORK
« Reply #66 on: December 04, 2010, 03:47:54 pm »
I've not read through all replies so apologies if this has already been suggested.

You guys spend a small fortune on equipment so maybe consider a small night heater, just like you'll find in sleeper cabs (trucks).

As an ex-trucker I can vouch for the 'toastie' qualities.


them not cheap also m8
this is what im saying systems cost
money so get descent van heater simples  ;D ;D
LET YOUR PANES BE MY PLEASURE

"If CALSBERG did WINDOW CLEANING
 it would be C.C.C  Probably the best WINDOW CLEANERS IN THE WORLD ..........."

C-N-C

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Re: D.I.Y stop our freezing water ...NO WORK
« Reply #67 on: December 06, 2010, 01:09:07 pm »
Hiya guy's ;)
Suds mate..ya alright bud.....yep ya from stockon arnt u?
Bin a knightmare man...snow,i dont mind not being able to work,but just cold temps...i wanna work bud...
I was going to put pond heater in tank etc...and i do heat van with heater overnight,but next day @ these temps...only get a hours (if lucky) work in then the freeze sets in.......-8 we were out last week & wot a waste ov time man..

Take care dave ;)

Hiya ian mate ;)
I think they more expensive bud ;)

But all in all...iv wasted nealy a full weeks work....& i know if there's heating in back of van all day,theres a lot less chance of it freezing.....
I dont mind spending £400 bar lad's.....first bit of cold weather & lost loads of work already...how much will i loose all over colder month's :'(
In fact how much will you guy's loose out on???  could be worth having a look for ya own vans!!
Another plus for me guy's....i wont have to unplug heater & plug it back in with exten leads etc....
Just jump in the van & go ;D ;D ;D ;D
As iv said in previous post,i have forgot its plugged in sometimes & just drove away....LOL ;D

Makes good sense to me guy's
Ill let ya all know how it goes fella's ;)
& thank you gav ;)

Take care guy's & kindest regards
Justin ;)

marcus hopkins

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Re: D.I.Y stop our freezing water ...NO WORK
« Reply #68 on: December 06, 2010, 06:50:20 pm »
I have an oil heater in the van to stop my pipes freezing over night and a pond heater floating in my storage tank to prevent that from freezing but have yet to find a way of stopping the microbore freezing as soon as i start to work :(
Maybe try another pond heater in the van tank and see how that goes.

C-N-C

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Re: D.I.Y stop our freezing water ...NO WORK
« Reply #69 on: December 06, 2010, 07:39:54 pm »
I have an oil heater in the van to stop my pipes freezing over night and a pond heater floating in my storage tank to prevent that from freezing but have yet to find a way of stopping the microbore freezing as soon as i start to work :(
Maybe try another pond heater in the van tank and see how that goes.

Hiya marcus m8 ;)
thing is bud,iv bin warming van up for years now....like you said,with oil filled rad....system works ok @ first then after a lil bit it starts to freeze...
Now if you could take that heater to work with you & keep it toasty in the back of ya van,might be a diffrent story man.....
Its okay warming everything b4 ya go to work,but then wot,once youv unplugged everything the cold is still there man...i have a 1000ltr ibc in back ov van,with polestyrene sheets round tank...im going to dirct heat under tank & make a thermal lid for top to keep heat in.....hopefully keep me working ;D
Pop back bud & ill let ya know how i get on with this when it comes....
Keep posting updates etc.....

Take care bud & kind regards
Justin ;)
www.clean-n-clearwindows.co.uk

suds window service

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Re: D.I.Y stop our freezing water ...NO WORK
« Reply #70 on: December 06, 2010, 08:31:44 pm »
I have an oil heater in the van to stop my pipes freezing over night and a pond heater floating in my storage tank to prevent that from freezing but have yet to find a way of stopping the microbore freezing as soon as i start to work :(
Maybe try another pond heater in the van tank and see how that goes.

Hiya marcus m8 ;)
thing is bud,iv bin warming van up for years now....like you said,with oil filled rad....system works ok @ first then after a lil bit it starts to freeze...
Now if you could take that heater to work with you & keep it toasty in the back of ya van,might be a diffrent story man.....
Its okay warming everything b4 ya go to work,but then wot,once youv unplugged everything the cold is still there man...i have a 1000ltr ibc in back ov van,with polestyrene sheets round tank...im going to dirct heat under tank & make a thermal lid for top to keep heat in.....hopefully keep me working ;D
Pop back bud & ill let ya know how i get on with this when it comes....
Keep posting updates etc.....

Take care bud & kind regards
Justin ;)
www.clean-n-clearwindows.co.uk

hi Justin,
               today i ordered the l5 heater which will give me hot water on demand to the brush head.
when its up and running come and have a look. the whole system should not cost me £200 !!!!

C-N-C

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Re: D.I.Y stop our freezing water ...NO WORK
« Reply #71 on: December 06, 2010, 10:49:49 pm »
Hiya dave ;)
you okay bud!
I was looking at 1 of them mate...was watching 1 in action on you tube,guy was useing it as a shower(wasnt watching him getting showered like...LOL)
He was showing how to set it up etc & also selling them 8) realy easy & good hot water man...
Did you get it off e-bay dave mate? thats were i was pricing them,from the states i think ???
It was a toss up between l5 or the bluebird......i just thought the bluebird heater will save me putting heater in van everynight etc & i was thinking with the l5...its great to heat ya water,but,ya still have to keep pipes tank,reels etc from freezing over night before the l5......or even the next day at work....i was thinking i need to keep van & everything warm first to c how it goes....known my luck dave,id buy the l5 & the tank & pipes might freeze during the day.......
That was a option for me dave,took me a few days to decide mate ::)
Mind you im keeping it from the missus....i'd like the l5 also ;D...lol....but going to c how this goes m8......
Deffo would like a look man.....let me know how ya get on bud.......
Glad you got 1 ov them mate,just as im get the bluebird & we live next to each other....we can compare them @ realy cold temps etc.....

Thank you again dave mate
Take care & c ya soon bud
Justin ;)

C-N-C

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Re: D.I.Y stop our freezing water ...NO WORK
« Reply #72 on: December 08, 2010, 11:22:51 am »
 :-[
Still not came...
Ordered it saturday & bluebird recon they sent it out monday ::) ::) ::)

Heres 1 for ya guy's...thats if ya intrested & nawt to do ;D ;D ;D
Not to cold here...0.0 degrees...heater in van all night....system working,but water freezing on glass before we even clean window.... :o :o :o :o :o  EH!!!!
If water to cold,it wouldnt run through system,would it?
Lecky heater in van all night.....but....my tank has polly sheeting round.....so do you think the heat is not reaching wter in tank......thus maybee still frozen bits in from when everything froze last week causing the water  to freeze faster than...well warmish water what heat might ov reached????  if that makes sense ;D ;D ;D

Kindest regards
Justin ;)

Gav Camm lammy 283

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Re: D.I.Y stop our freezing water ...NO WORK
« Reply #73 on: December 08, 2010, 11:58:31 am »
just wait till yr bluebird lands pal
youl be the only geezer working up there  ;D ;D ;D
LET YOUR PANES BE MY PLEASURE

"If CALSBERG did WINDOW CLEANING
 it would be C.C.C  Probably the best WINDOW CLEANERS IN THE WORLD ..........."

C-N-C

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Re: D.I.Y stop our freezing water ...NO WORK
« Reply #74 on: December 08, 2010, 12:05:36 pm »
HAPPY DAYS GAV MATE

Just carnt wait bud.....theres a van.......oh no....not for me....lol...

Right im off to look out window for delivery van..... ;D ;D ;D ;D

Take care bud

Just sent another pm ;)

Justin ;)

david watts

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Re: D.I.Y stop our freezing water ...NO WORK
« Reply #75 on: December 08, 2010, 12:12:01 pm »
been out today doing a supermarket;took a barrel of water that had been heated trolley
was inside house all night and it all froze straight away :( so wait it out a bit more
life is like a box of chocolates you get the crap no one else wants

C-N-C

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Re: D.I.Y stop our freezing water ...NO WORK
« Reply #76 on: December 08, 2010, 04:52:18 pm »
ITS HERE!!!!....YIPEEEEE!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Ya were right gav!! ;)
Been all over to get bits n bobs...(propane regulator,bit copper pipeing & some gas hose).....back home now & probaly have to fit it weekend now weather ok for a bit,plus loads of catch up to play....LOL
Keep ya all posted....

Thank you dave mate,but its to late man.... ;D ;D ;Dbesides i heat everything b4 i go to work & it dont take long to freeze,but,if ya heating was still going while you work...HMMMMMM!!!!
Time will tell......

Thank you & take care
Justin ;)


Gav Camm lammy 283

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Re: D.I.Y stop our freezing water ...NO WORK
« Reply #77 on: December 08, 2010, 05:01:13 pm »
ITS HERE!!!!....YIPEEEEE!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Ya were right gav!! ;)
Been all over to get bits n bobs...(propane regulator,bit copper pipeing & some gas hose).....back home now & probaly have to fit it weekend now weather ok for a bit,plus loads of catch up to play....LOL
Keep ya all posted....

Thank you dave mate,but its to late man.... ;D ;D ;Dbesides i heat everything b4 i go to work & it dont take long to freeze,but,if ya heating was still going while you work...HMMMMMM!!!!
Time will tell...... justin it takes minutes to fit m8
get it fitted pal feel the warmth already ;D ;D ;D ;D

Thank you & take care
Justin ;)


LET YOUR PANES BE MY PLEASURE

"If CALSBERG did WINDOW CLEANING
 it would be C.C.C  Probably the best WINDOW CLEANERS IN THE WORLD ..........."

C-N-C

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Re: D.I.Y stop our freezing water ...NO WORK
« Reply #78 on: December 08, 2010, 10:43:28 pm »
Hiya gav ;)
Have ya noticed,your posts are coming up in a quote...if ya know wot i mean ???
Didnt realise ya wrote out there man,thought ya just posted my post again,until i read it closer...... ;D
Ya must be typing inside the 2 quote thing's mate.....
Bet iv missed a couple of ya posts as i thought you were just repeating mine to wind me up ;D.....not that ya'd do that man.....ya probaly dont realise,or do you...lol 8)

Always good to talk to ya matey ;)
Keep ya posted on how things are going,only problem now is,were to put it...LOL ;D ;D ;D ;D

Take care gav & kind regards
Justin ;)

Gav Camm lammy 283

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Re: D.I.Y stop our freezing water ...NO WORK
« Reply #79 on: December 08, 2010, 10:48:46 pm »
never noticed m8 lol
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