[jsm]

hi justin ,

this is the van heater installed that Gav was telling you about from Bluebird .

works a treat , just set the temp and leave .
its no bigger than a shoe box - best £400 ive ever spent .

I even got a L5 to use in the cold - but i dont think it's really needed now as the propex keeps it all toasty.

its the blue box on the right 

[C-N-C]

Hiya guys...
Yeah ,ya right i think NWH.......  :)need full van heating man.....

Thats the thing i wanna be looking at no ladders...but...i think bit pricey compared to the post off jsm,dont ya think man

Thanks tho fella

Thats the dogs that jsm man....
Defo going for that for next year dude.......
sick of all the going to work van half froze,wasted days,plugging & unplugging heaters......OH the list goes on man....

Thank you for taking the time out to help fellas & thanks for them pics JSM
Decided now what im gunna do...the bluebird.....

Big thank you all for your time

Kindest regards

Justin
www.clean-n-clearwindows.co.uk

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

is that jsm posing with his nice new two man set up 
tidy as u like it lol thinks e as best set up in wrexham
though i see C.C.C. window Cleaners will av summat to say
bout that 

[C-N-C]

Its a proper mans set up,in it lammy mate

did it take long to instal that heater system dude?

Take care guy's

Justin
www.clean-n-clearwindows.co.uk

ya sound guy's..i love this site,but takes loads ov ya time up if ya got missus & 4 kids to fight for computers
LOL...catch ya soon fella's

[jsm]

is that jsm posing with his nice new two man set up 
tidy as u like it lol thinks e as best set up in wrexham
though i see C.C.C. window Cleaners will av summat to say
bout that 

lol  - i dont think the ccc wagon will last to long with that full tank in the back - it used to struggle with your old normal bucket and tools lol - id sell it and get a trolly system 

justin - easy to fit - 2 inch round holes in floor for inlet and outlet , hook up gas , wire up stat , fire up and sit in the back in your speedo's all toasty 

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

is that jsm posing with his nice new two man set up 
tidy as u like it lol thinks e as best set up in wrexham
though i see C.C.C. window Cleaners will av summat to say
bout that 

lol  - i dont think the ccc wagon will last to long with that full tank in the back - it used to struggle with your old normal bucket and tools lol - id sell it and get a trolly system 

justin - easy to fit - 2 inch round holes in floor for inlet and outlet , hook up gas , wire up stat , fire up and sit in the back in your speedo's all toasty 

u cud be rite johnny boy 
gona get a tranny n av a 4 man set up  2 heaters lol lol

[C-N-C]

Hiya fellas

justin - easy to fit - 2 inch round holes in floor for inlet and outlet , hook up gas , wire up stat , fire up and sit in the back in your speedo's all toasty  Wink

nice 1 man.....least it wont take all weekend...be nice to stop the carry on wid the ext leads & heaters man......
Thanks again dude
Take care man
Justin

Hiya Lammy mate...

gona get a tranny n av a 4 man set up  lol lol

8)Keep that 1 to yaself mate...
Take care fella
Kindest regards
Justin
www.clean-n-clearwindows.co.uk

Ya sound guys

[C-N-C]

Hiya Gav & jsm....

You okay guy's??

THAT TIME OV YEAR AGAIN......
Im looking @ the bluebird lads,but it says its £725......is that just the more expensive 1 guy's??
I Thought it was £400....or is the one under the £725 item the 1 i want guys
Was also going to look into l5 (i think thats wot it is)
But no need if yours does the job...
How are they working fella's...
We bin struggling ALL week to make enough to put juice in van,due to iced up poles & reels...
Been leaving electric heater in van all night,but soon as start to work...it freezes.......

Any feedback will be appreciated guy's

Take care & kind regards
Justin

[Sapphire Window Cleaning]

To my mind there are three issues - keeping r/o, tank, hoses and pump frost free; water freezing at point of delivery; and freezing on the ground afterwards.

If you have access to mains electricity the first is readily solved. Cover your tanks with polystyrene foam and maybe add ply on top of that. Put an oil filled radiator in your van at night.

Your van is sorted.

R/O and holding tank - insulate and put your tank on a pallet on breeze blocks and put an oil filled rad underneath it and a small bottle heater in with your R/O. Wizard has just mentioned putting underfloor heating under your tank.

Your storage is sorted.

Delivery:-

If you have relatively warm water in your tank then it will generally get to the brush in conditions of zero degrees or even down to -2 if you keep the flow moving. An L5 (or better) will be even better.

Freezing on the ground

Difficult one this - I tend to avoid certain windows that will drip onto pathways and drives and so blade them. You can put salt down - but that can cause "dirt on my best carpet" issues.

If the ground is snow laden or slushy I tend not to work.

This is the longest period of inactivity I have encountered (although I worked yesterday) but I believe it is short term and so do not worry over much - the nights are drawing out and spring will soon be here and we'll all be asking about the best suncream and sunglasses. 

[color=Red]I wonder what MoemGorod in Russia does?[/color]

I spoke to him at windex this year and he said he uses isoprol (if thats how you spell it) he said he works in Temperatures of -8 and doesn't have a problem.


Matt

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

Hiya Guy's....
Hittin us all now our nightmare ,frozen pipes,reels,tanks...the list goes on........
Nothing worse than going to work to find out nawt working,jets froze,reels froze....etc....

if we had warmish water in our tanks or some sort ov van aux heater to keep the van from freezing...we would be fine.....
You can buy a fishtank heater etc for a tenner....240v keeps water at the temp u want.....i know diff volt but theres gadgets to change that.
U can buy a parrafin heater cheap........keep the van warm(stinks tho )
carnt ex drive about & leave it burning away :

Surely there must be something we can all use to keep our water at a temp to use on a cold day?
The price ov the thermo....  hot water systems are stupid....even the cheaper add ons £3000 plus....EH!!!!!!
You can buy a combi-boiler for fraction price
Are these company's cashin in on our needs....its not realistic paying that sort ov coin for a few weeks ov ice
Just rammbiling on :,but i'd be very intrested if anyone gave it a go at a diy system etc......

HAPPY CHRISTMAS FELLA'S

Kindest regards

J

justin thought u were aving a propex 2000 heatsource

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

justin its 425 m8 vw bluebird customs m8
propex 2000 heatsource
tele 01254 888416

[C-N-C]

To my mind there are three issues - keeping r/o, tank, hoses and pump frost free; water freezing at point of delivery; and freezing on the ground afterwards.

If you have access to mains electricity the first is readily solved. Cover your tanks with polystyrene foam and maybe add ply on top of that. Put an oil filled radiator in your van at night.

Your van is sorted.

R/O and holding tank - insulate and put your tank on a pallet on breeze blocks and put an oil filled rad underneath it and a small bottle heater in with your R/O. Wizard has just mentioned putting underfloor heating under your tank.

Your storage is sorted.

Delivery:-

If you have relatively warm water in your tank then it will generally get to the brush in conditions of zero degrees or even down to -2 if you keep the flow moving. An L5 (or better) will be even better.

Freezing on the ground

Difficult one this - I tend to avoid certain windows that will drip onto pathways and drives and so blade them. You can put salt down - but that can cause "dirt on my best carpet" issues.

If the ground is snow laden or slushy I tend not to work.

This is the longest period of inactivity I have encountered (although I worked yesterday) but I believe it is short term and so do not worry over much - the nights are drawing out and spring will soon be here and we'll all be asking about the best suncream and sunglasses. 

[color=Red]I wonder what MoemGorod in Russia does?[/color]

I spoke to him at windex this year and he said he uses isoprol (if thats how you spell it) he said he works in Temperatures of -8 and doesn't have a problem.


Matt

Hiya mat
Is that some sort of heating system mate?just havent heard of it man.. :
Thank you bud



Hiya gav mate
I am mate....just before i buy it was asking,just incase theres out new & cheaper out yet dude...
Going to have to buy 1 this weekend,been out everyday,even in -6 & got hardley nawt done mate,spent more on juice.....
Got the coin here for it gav...was just gunna c wot other's use man....
So its the 2000 heatsorce mate,eh!.....i was looking at Propex Heatsource Electric/Gas £725 @ the top of this page man...LOL.....http://www.bluebird-type2.co.uk/heat.htm  (link from gav)

Thank you again gav & good to talk to ya fella

Gunna keep useing this thread until im all set up .....

Take care fella's

Justin

[clearlyclean]

can you heat the water with Propex heat source or is it just for heating van

[C-N-C]

Hiya bud....
I would direct ducting under 1000ltr ibc, warming up the water in tank & direct anyother ducting to poles/reels etc.....
I know its not hot water system,but surely if u direct heat under water tank,its gunna work keeping it warm & keep water from freezing up, running through reels to end of ya poles man....

Wot ya think???

What temps can you work at gav mate,without hoses/poles freezing?

Take care & kind regards
Justin

[C-N-C]

Gunna order bluebird morro...

Thank you gav & jsm for the help & pics...

Let ya know how im gettin on wid it I mean im gunna do ya head in when im fitting it,esp when i get stuck
Nor, should b okay guy's

thank you again
Justin

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

can you heat the water with Propex heat source or is it just for heating van

no its a heatsource just heats yr van
never will yr gear b frozen again 

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

Hiya bud....
I would direct ducting under 1000ltr ibc, warming up the water in tank & direct anyother ducting to poles/reels etc.....
I know its not hot water system,but surely if u direct heat under water tank,its gunna work keeping it warm & keep water from freezing up, running through reels to end of ya poles man....

Wot ya think???

What temps can you work at gav mate,without hoses/poles freezing?

Take care & kind regards
Justin

justin johns ya man but last year
he was one ov the only guys wfpoling ere in wrexham
he left the propex on timer all nite set at 60 degrees n van
didnt even av ice on window screen m8
believe me m8
im looking at it like this ok it 425 to buy
but if i lose only 120 a day by not working
i cuda bin working if u get me 

[Sapphire Window Cleaning]

To my mind there are three issues - keeping r/o, tank, hoses and pump frost free; water freezing at point of delivery; and freezing on the ground afterwards.

If you have access to mains electricity the first is readily solved. Cover your tanks with polystyrene foam and maybe add ply on top of that. Put an oil filled radiator in your van at night.

Your van is sorted.

R/O and holding tank - insulate and put your tank on a pallet on breeze blocks and put an oil filled rad underneath it and a small bottle heater in with your R/O. Wizard has just mentioned putting underfloor heating under your tank.

Your storage is sorted.

Delivery:-

If you have relatively warm water in your tank then it will generally get to the brush in conditions of zero degrees or even down to -2 if you keep the flow moving. An L5 (or better) will be even better.

Freezing on the ground

Difficult one this - I tend to avoid certain windows that will drip onto pathways and drives and so blade them. You can put salt down - but that can cause "dirt on my best carpet" issues.

If the ground is snow laden or slushy I tend not to work.

This is the longest period of inactivity I have encountered (although I worked yesterday) but I believe it is short term and so do not worry over much - the nights are drawing out and spring will soon be here and we'll all be asking about the best suncream and sunglasses. 

[color=Red]I wonder what MoemGorod in Russia does?[/color]

I spoke to him at windex this year and he said he uses isoprol (if thats how you spell it) he said he works in Temperatures of -8 and doesn't have a problem.


Matt

Hiya mat
Is that some sort of heating system mate?just havent heard of it man.. :
Thank you bud



Hiya gav mate
I am mate....just before i buy it was asking,just incase theres out new & cheaper out yet dude...
Going to have to buy 1 this weekend,been out everyday,even in -6 & got hardley nawt done mate,spent more on juice.....
Got the coin here for it gav...was just gunna c wot other's use man....
So its the 2000 heatsorce mate,eh!.....i was looking at Propex Heatsource Electric/Gas £725 @ the top of this page man...LOL.....http://www.bluebird-type2.co.uk/heat.htm  (link from gav)

Thank you again gav & good to talk to ya fella

Gunna keep useing this thread until im all set up .....

Take care fella's

Justin

Its an alcohol additive mate.

Matt

[AuRavelling79]

About 13 months ago I was asked why I thought it useful to insulate my van tank and put an oil filled rad in my van overnight - inasmuch as how can the heat from the oil filled rad get to the tank water through the insulation?

The insulation is to keep the tank water at a higher temperature. (I didn't mention that I sometimes drop a pond heater into the filler hole)

The oilfilled rad is to keep the hoses, pump, battery, poles and brushes warm.

[C-N-C]

Hiya guy's
Thank you for that matt...didnt know ya could get a additive to stop water freezing man

I think imi know im going to get the heater wot gav and jsm got....
thank you again bud...
Take care man
Justin

Hiya gav mate
Makes sense now man..
Got ya e mail bud
Going to try & order 1 now mate.....wot if we get months of bad icey weather.....im getting ready now man..LOL

Just off to bank...then phone bluebird c if they open today & get my order in...prob do it on-line if they shut...
Let ya know how i get on man
Big thank you again gav mate,ya sound man

Kindest regards
Justin