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Re: Bad service
« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2009, 07:30:25 pm »
While there is an element of seeing goody two shoes getting a telling off that other suppliers might see as balancing things out a bit, what a thoroughly bad tempered thread.

The supplier made a mistake and delivered to the wrong address, but this has no connection to £470 worth of work the next day that was lost.The two things are seperate.

NWH

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Re: Bad service
« Reply #21 on: June 27, 2009, 07:42:10 pm »
Tom

Why leave it so late to order something that was so dependent on your schedule.

If something is that tight you should always have a contingency plan

Remember the 6 P's   

       Poor Planning prevents perfect performance


That`s only 5 Dave lol. ;D ;D

ftp

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Re: Bad service
« Reply #22 on: June 27, 2009, 07:43:00 pm »
Quite agree slumpy - shouldn't even be aired on a forum. Obviously trying for some compensation - maybe two keyrings and a pen!

NWH

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Re: Bad service
« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2009, 07:45:16 pm »
We all make mistakes good old Anna i`ll bet Alex is working her to hard in this heat lol. ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Bad service
« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2009, 07:53:58 pm »
I am used to suppliers delivering when they say they will I am new to wfp but run a cleaning company and have always recieved goods on time and to the right address, I did phone prior and was told the delivery was next day.

I expect from my suppliers what my customers expect from us, a hassle free service that performs as promissed, in this case it was gardiners that were lacking the 6 p's. I even filled out the forms for them all that was required was a tiny amount of focus to copy the details I had provided.

I now have to take responsability for this with an important new client and am going to have to offer compensation and make promises that my Company does not and will not let them down again


point 1-as a general rule, if you order before 12, with any supplier, you can rightly expect next day, but in my experience with suppliers of any items, if its after 12, i expect delivery the day after.

point 2-compensation, for an error?! a genuine error...are you going to pay compensation to your customer, as you made an error in leaving it very close to ordering something and relying on it for your business? imagine an italian restaurant running out of pasta, leaving it til the last minute, and ordering it, not allowing for any errors from their supplier...you get the picture...THEY left it too late...

mistakes are made, maybe we are too quick to try and point blame?

i have made 4 or 5 orders with gardiners recently, 2 of which have been wrong, one as a mix up in communication/understanding of micro/minibore, and one was just plucked from the wrong rack in the warehouse, not life threatening, and not with disparaging comments about the business, in my opinion.

if its a major component that you require for the day to day running of your business...my recommendations would be to double up on them, so that you can carry on no matter what! eliminate as many chances of letting your customers down.


Moderator David@stives

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Re: Bad service
« Reply #25 on: June 27, 2009, 07:57:21 pm »
Difinately 6 p's

The last one is for your imagination

weetot

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Re: Bad service
« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2009, 07:59:10 pm »
Gardiners have always been spot on for me, you cant diss them on a forum, just cos they got it wrong, wer'e only human man, wer,e supposed to make mistakes :D
Never take financial advice from people who have no money!

Tom Gower

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Re: Bad service
« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2009, 08:02:40 pm »
I missed the first P out ,work it out, it is something to do with P.




If i were to rely on a delivery for a job with a tight deadline, then i would deserve for something to go wrong.

You cant blame a late delivery for letting someone down.

You shouldnt promise anything until the equipment is in your hands.

I could never run my business like that.

What a load of tat the delivery was made on time to the wrong address, the person responable did not do their job. It does not matter if I was due to do the job in two weeks the job was still not done! It is not so much the mistake that bothers me as the lack of responsability taken when I informed them of the mistake. Now you are giving me no choice but to make a mountain out of a mole hill as somehow now because one of your mates stuffed up and then made no attempt to rectify it it is my fault

As for compensation I am not interested. In new zealand people bend over backwards to ensure the customer is happy and that is why I do so well here becuase no one else cares.

It took me posting on here to get any response at all and I am sure it was not Alex or his systems at fault anyway :-X

Re: Bad service
« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2009, 08:03:34 pm »
Well i have never had a problem with Gardiners & if ur making £430 a day you can cover a day off

seandyer2003

Re: Bad service
« Reply #29 on: June 27, 2009, 08:09:37 pm »

Tom Gower

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Re: Bad service
« Reply #30 on: June 27, 2009, 08:10:10 pm »
i have made 4 or 5 orders with gardiners recently, 2 of which have been wrong,

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WOW 50% OF YOUR ORDERS ARE WRONG, that is really something

pingu

Re: Bad service
« Reply #31 on: June 27, 2009, 08:11:07 pm »
Tom...if it is soooooooooooooooooooooooooo good there...why not go there?

As for no one caring....very broad statement that....

Love and kisses Dave.

Tom Gower

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Re: Bad service
« Reply #32 on: June 27, 2009, 08:13:15 pm »
Tom...if it is soooooooooooooooooooooooooo good there...why not go there?

As for no one caring....very broad statement that....

Love and kisses Dave.

I am English but lived there for 6 years and decided to come back for the challenge of business here

Many more kisses back

Tom Gower

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Re: Bad service
« Reply #33 on: June 27, 2009, 08:16:15 pm »
I must say I have got quite a lot of response out of this and am only new to this forum it took me much longer to have this kind of ding dong on a well known carpet cleaning forum ;D

GWCS

Re: Bad service
« Reply #34 on: June 27, 2009, 08:20:40 pm »
Like many on here I never guarantee a job to be done on time without having the equipment to do it. I can also never be 100% sure i can get the job done without fail for too many possible variables to go wrong.

I agree that if you want next day service it needs to be ordered first thing that morning - it takes time to pick orders and get them packed for delivery. I would ALWAYS ask on the phone about next day delivery and make sure it can be made and the items are in stock. But delivery scheduling is not in the hands of suppliers - its in the hands of the couriers. Again there is still something to go wrong there. Just take their T&C's on that one

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Delivery Schedule We always use first class Royal Mail and Fedex next day delivery for all of our shipping. However once a product is in the hands of the Royal Mail/Couriers we can make no guarantee about it's delivery time.

Shipping And Handling DESPATCH

Any times quoted for despatch are from the receipt by us of an order to proceed. Elapsed times of despatch are submitted without liability for delay however occasioned, but every effort will be made to achieve them.

Its NEVER possible to have a a perfect service, there is always someone let down somewhere. What sets you or them apart from the rest is how they deal with it to rectify the problem. Seems they had realised they made an error, and tried to rectify it by telephoning you and leaving a message, but had no reply from you on how to go from then on?

Ive had nothing but top class service from gardiners, and when they have not sent something or kept me waiting on something they have always been fast acting to get to the reason and get the item sent out asap.

Customer service is not only about getting it right first time every time, its also how you handle it when it goes wrong and for that my first choice for supplies will always be gardiners.

Its a shame for you, your first order was messed up somewhat by a human mistake, im sure we all make mistakes sometimes, in fact even machines make mistakes, because they are programmed by humans!


Re: Bad service
« Reply #35 on: June 27, 2009, 08:29:25 pm »
At least you got a kind apology off of Gardiners.
If you had gone to another supplier who frequents here you may have been told where to go  ;D

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Re: Bad service
« Reply #36 on: June 27, 2009, 08:31:30 pm »
i have made 4 or 5 orders with gardiners recently, 2 of which have been wrong,

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WOW 50% OF YOUR ORDERS ARE WRONG, that is really something

see what i did with selective quotes?

maybe i should work for a red top...

Re: Bad service
« Reply #37 on: June 27, 2009, 08:33:04 pm »
Tom
There are often threads complaining about suppliers, sometimes unfairly. one or two always seem to get it in the neck, and things sometimes get a bit heated.

Oddly enough, the supplier you have singled out has the opposite problem.Threads started to praise his products (supalite sixty foot modular, sl2 supalite extendable, supalite brush, etc) have led to a ban on FOA  Alex posts.

The guy always gives helpfull advice, has unrivaled knowledge, and never gets drawn into personal brick bats (unlike most of us).

The worst thing that i or anyone else can say about him is that he is a right goody two shoes (and a bit tight).

Moderator David@stives

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Re: Bad service
« Reply #38 on: June 27, 2009, 08:33:59 pm »
Its not tat

Its common sense, if you dont know how to run your business thats nobodys fault but your own

I would never blame a late delivery for a ruined day, I would kick myself for being an idiot instead.


Tom Gower

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Re: Bad service
« Reply #39 on: June 27, 2009, 08:40:15 pm »
It is tat as you clearly don't read my posts it had nothing to do with late delivery only delivery to the wrong address and then no attempt to rectify when I informed them.

They did not ring me and leave a message I rang them and left the message