[clean]

Iv`e been using both brushes this week and i also prefer the dual trim (but not entirely satisfied),i just can`t get on with the single trim the bristles are far too long and they give a "mopping" type effect and not enough scrubbing power,Alex i hope you are taking note of all these comments as there seem to be quite a few that have bought these brushes and are saying the same things,main thing is "bristles far too long" 

[Alex Gardiner]

 

It's a difficult one as there has been a lot of positive feedback on the single trim as well!  I am taking note though of all feedback and the next batch will be slightly different (hopefully keeping clients who really like it happy as well).

The splay on the single trim is ideal for getting into corners, etc but might not have enough scrubbing power for some users...........

[Kevin R]

Shame   

We have a slightly different single trim coming out next month - we'll send one up to you for hot water trialling.

Thanks Alex,

I look forward to it.

I have to say I am still very impressed with the dual trim, it seems a completely different brush.  This really must be about bristle length? what do you think?

[clean]

It's a difficult one as there has been a lot of positive feedback on the single trim as well!  I am taking note though of all feedback and the next batch will be slightly different (hopefully keeping clients who really like it happy as well).

The splay on the single trim is ideal for getting into corners, etc but might not have enough scrubbing power for some users...........

Thanks Alex,it would be good to have a choice of bristle lengths a brush with short bristles for good scrubbing power and a brush with longer bristles for the "moppers" 

[ftp]

I think it's very difficult to produce a brush that works at 50' and at 15'. The highest one will be relying on the pressure of the pole to splay it and will be set at pretty much one angle only. The residential brush will have more direct pressure on it from very low angles and will often be flipped to the side and upside down so needs to be stiffer and a little more robust in my opinon. It's impossible to keep every one happy so maybe a small range of different stiffness need to be produced.

[trevor perry]

hi alex dont take this the wrong way but i feel that any brushes you release in future should be tried out a bit more before selling them for £30 a shot i feel your other equipment poles etc seem to have had testing before release and therefore we get what we expect but the single trim brush i bought is totally done in after a couple of weeks and the dual trim is next to useless i have found the service and goods you have provided in past has been excellent dont ruin this reputation with these brushes.

[NWH]

IMO a perfect brush would be as light as the above brush but with flocked bristles almost identical to a flocked vikan,the tension on the glass from bristle to stock is perfect on this brush but as we know it`s far to heavy to use allday.I`m talking about the bristles from a retangular by the way,you only have to look at 1 stork of bristles from this brush,there are loads and loads of tiny bristles in each stork.If you pinch the vikan retangular from front to back between your thumb and first finger and compare it to the above brush you can see the difference in the amount of bristle,the only reason for brush lines being left behind on the glass is down to the lack of bristles and the thickness of them.Some of the bristles have been chopped therefore allowing it to splay better the only trouble is it splays so much not all the bristles stay in proper contact with the glass.I`m as fussy as you Alex,you should let me road test them for you lol.

[clean]

IMO a perfect brush would be as light as the above brush but with flocked bristles almost identical to a flocked vikan,the tension on the glass from bristle to stock is perfect on this brush but as we know it`s far to heavy to use allday.I`m talking about the bristles from a retangular by the way,you only have to look at 1 stork of bristles from this brush,there are loads and loads of tiny bristles in each stork.If you pinch the vikan retangular from front to back between your thumb and first finger and compare it to the above brush you can see the difference in the amount of bristle,the only reason for brush lines being left behind on the glass is down to the lack of bristles and the thickness of them.Some of the bristles have been chopped therefore allowing it to splay better the only trouble is it splays so much not all the bristles stay in proper contact with the glass.I`m as fussy as you Alex,you should let me road test them for you lol.

Flocked Bristles ? are you insane Nigel       

[Kevin R]

hi alex dont take this the wrong way but i feel that any brushes you release in future should be tried out a bit more before selling them for £30 a shot i feel your other equipment poles etc seem to have had testing before release and therefore we get what we expect but the single trim brush i bought is totally done in after a couple of weeks and the dual trim is next to useless i have found the service and goods you have provided in past has been excellent dont ruin this reputation with these brushes.

I personally feel that is a little harsh.  I feel that Alex has designed a brush that complements his Superlite poles particularly the SL2. Most of the brushes on the market are too heavy for the SL2 and the dual trim it is a vast improvement on the Bently. Lets face it he is the only person to invent a new brush specifically for wfp in an age. Most brushes we use have been adapted from another purpose. I dont think these brushes in their current form are "tough enough" for everyday use on all poles but on the SL2 it works well.

So give credit were its due - its a Superlite brush for a Superlite pole - its designed for purpose and it works.  It could be improved a little but give the man a chance!!!!  

[ftp]

One thing i have noticed is that the dual trim brush has all the bristles almost the same length probably only a millimetre difference at the most between the shortest and the longest in each trim size. The single trim brush seems to have a much larger difference between short and long and is also splayed more straight out of the box. Maybe this is deliberate or just a manufacturing discrepancy.

[clean]

hi alex dont take this the wrong way but i feel that any brushes you release in future should be tried out a bit more before selling them for £30 a shot i feel your other equipment poles etc seem to have had testing before release and therefore we get what we expect but the single trim brush i bought is totally done in after a couple of weeks and the dual trim is next to useless i have found the service and goods you have provided in past has been excellent dont ruin this reputation with these brushes.

I personally fell that is a little harsh.  I feel that Alex has designed a brush that complements his Superlite poles particularly the SL2. Most of the brushes on the market are too heavy for the SL2 and the dual trim it is a vast improvement on the Bently. Lets face it he is the only person to invent a new brush specifically for wfp in an age. Most brushes we use have been adapted from another purpose. I dont think these brushes in their current form are "tough enough" for everyday use on all poles but on the SL2 it works well.

So give credit were its due - its a Superlite brush for a Superlite pole - its designed for purpose and it works.  It could be improved a little but give the man a chance!!!! 

Kevin the problem isn`t the weight at all the brushes are spot on as far as build quality it`s just the fact that bristle length is a major factor,
i agree that Alex is doing alot to the wfp industry (hats off to the man and awell deserved  pat on the back) but with anything in life it has to have it`s good and bad points so things can be improved for perfection 

[NWH]

IMO a perfect brush would be as light as the above brush but with flocked bristles almost identical to a flocked vikan,the tension on the glass from bristle to stock is perfect on this brush but as we know it`s far to heavy to use allday.I`m talking about the bristles from a retangular by the way,you only have to look at 1 stork of bristles from this brush,there are loads and loads of tiny bristles in each stork.If you pinch the vikan retangular from front to back between your thumb and first finger and compare it to the above brush you can see the difference in the amount of bristle,the only reason for brush lines being left behind on the glass is down to the lack of bristles and the thickness of them.Some of the bristles have been chopped therefore allowing it to splay better the only trouble is it splays so much not all the bristles stay in proper contact with the glass.I`m as fussy as you Alex,you should let me road test them for you lol.

Unless you fill it full of Tucker bristles which are by far far the best bristle for WC there is flocked is the second best option,if you fill it full of vikan mono type bristles you`ll still have the same problem.

Flocked Bristles ? are you insane Nigel       

[john tomkins]

Same for me unfortunately, only been using the single trim this week and I'd be surprised if it will see the month out. Bristles on both ends of brush are already splaying out
Can't fault the weight as it's ideal, but if it don't last the month out and cost £38

[windowwashers]

hi alex dont take this the wrong way but i feel that any brushes you release in future should be tried out a bit more before selling them for £30 a shot i feel your other equipment poles etc seem to have had testing before release and therefore we get what we expect but the single trim brush i bought is totally done in after a couple of weeks and the dual trim is next to useless i have found the service and goods you have provided in past has been excellent dont ruin this reputation with these brushes.

I personally feel that is a little harsh.  I feel that Alex has designed a brush that complements his Superlite poles particularly the SL2. Most of the brushes on the market are too heavy for the SL2 and the dual trim it is a vast improvement on the Bently. Lets face it he is the only person to invent a new brush specifically for wfp in an age. Most brushes we use have been adapted from another purpose. I dont think these brushes in their current form are "tough enough" for everyday use on all poles but on the SL2 it works well.

So give credit were its due - its a Superlite brush for a Superlite pole - its designed for purpose and it works.  It could be improved a little but give the man a chance!!!!  

Have to agree with Kev on that post, Alex is trying to help others, yes he will make money from it in the long run, I for one will keep trying these products and any others products till I find the ones that suit the way we clean. There is massive scope and Alex knows this, I agree a pat on the back is well in order.

I will be using the super lite single trim on my house when the windows get dirtier, if they clean it then good I will post results good or bad once done maybe a few before during and after shots. I will judge this brush myself because something not suited to some could be suited to what I need, trying does not hurt and at less than £20 it is worth trying in my book.

Ian

[NWH]

I would forget about trying to do a brush that is ideal for rinsing on with,a light brush that cleans well is far more important.I have other ways i can use to rinse on ie more water tilting etc,a light good cleaning brush will save your body more,i found it harder on you in some ways because you need to keep scrubbing with it.

[ftp]

Less than £20 

[windowwashers]

Less than £20 

before vat postage ect 

[clean]

Less than £20 

before vat postage ect 

 

Ian i think you need to check Gardiner`s website on that one 

[NWH]

hi alex dont take this the wrong way but i feel that any brushes you release in future should be tried out a bit more before selling them for £30 a shot i feel your other equipment poles etc seem to have had testing before release and therefore we get what we expect but the single trim brush i bought is totally done in after a couple of weeks and the dual trim is next to useless i have found the service and goods you have provided in past has been excellent dont ruin this reputation with these brushes.

I personally feel that is a little harsh.  I feel that Alex has designed a brush that complements his Superlite poles particularly the SL2. Most of the brushes on the market are too heavy for the SL2 and the dual trim it is a vast improvement on the Bently. Lets face it he is the only person to invent a new brush specifically for wfp in an age. Most brushes we use have been adapted from another purpose. I dont think these brushes in their current form are "tough enough" for everyday use on all poles but on the SL2 it works well.

So give credit were its due - its a Superlite brush for a Superlite pole - its designed for purpose and it works.  It could be improved a little but give the man a chance!!!!  

Have to agree with Kev on that post, Alex is trying to help others, yes he will make money from it in the long run, I for one will keep trying these products and any others products till I find the ones that suit the way we clean. There is massive scope and Alex knows this, I agree a pat on the back is well in order.

I will be using the super lite single trim on my house when the windows get dirtier, if they clean it then good I will post results good or bad once done maybe a few before during and after shots. I will judge this brush myself because something not suited to some could be suited to what I need, trying does not hurt and at less than £20 it is worth trying in my book.

Ian

You will get true results from a brush when you just clean away as normal without looking to try to hard,if you doubt the brush from the start you`ll end up cleaning them twice without knowing it ie scrub loads,even on dirty windows a few scrubs up and down with the right brush will do the job and you won`t leave brush lines,you might have spots from not using enough water but you won`t get brush lines.

[Kevin R]

This week I have been using both the new Gardiners brushes to clean several modern schools. These schools require 3 men outside for the work to be completed in the day (one day per school) . They are big, very dirty and plastered in masses of seagull poo which has been well baked on.

The Dual trim brush in my opinion has been as good as any other brush I have tried for scrubbing power. It is better than any I have tried for rinsing on. I have used many many different brushes from flocked to mono, dual and single trim, heavy and not so heavy on most types of pole.

For the type of work I do the SL2 and the dual trim brush from Gardiners are a fantastic combination for the work from 60ft to 6ft. This work is usually less soiled than lower level work. I prefer using a short pole for lower level work as the glass is very soiled with all manner of substance that the kids have attached. The single trim brush has not coped well with the lower level work. A red rectangular vikan is much more suited to this type of heavy cleaning. I believe that the dual trim would also not cope with this work on the short pole.

I personally find I have several brushes for different jobs as well as several different poles. No brush is suitable for all work and the same is true for poles. If your doing just domestic work, you can get away with one pole and brush combo, but more varied work calls for different tools. I prefer to rise off at lower level but rinse on at higher level to minimize body stress. I like a strong hard bristle brush for first cleans and "dirty" regular work but I prefer a soft dual trim for maintenance cleans and for higher level work. I clean an 11 th centuary property that I would neither use hot water or heavy brush as that may damage the  very fragile irreplaceable panes and leads (National Trust). I use a very soft dual trim salmon for this job, which I dont like for much else.

So my point is Alex would have to have 20 different brushes available to please us all - all of the time. The Dual trim in my opinion is a damn good brush and suited to it purpose - fitted to a Superlite pole.

It has been a pleasure using the SL2 and the dual trim brush for me as I suffer from tennis elbow. It is every bit as good as anything else I have used for the work from 6ft to 60 ft - but after four days work, the client is happy with beautifully clean windows, I am happy as my tennis elbow has not flared up as it does most weeks.

I was hoping the single trim or dual trim would be good for the lower level stuff but it just is not. My closing comment is Thank you Mr Alex Gardiner  for your SL2 and dual trim brush - It has saved me time and discomfort and is worth every penny. I watch with anticipation as you and you products continue to benefit  my chosen industry and more importantly me