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Re: Gardiners Single Trim Brushes
« Reply #100 on: August 14, 2008, 08:08:19 pm »
I was hoping the single trim or dual trim would be good for the lower level stuff but it just is not.

Is that because you think its too soft for lower level work, whereas these attributes speak for themselves at height?

NWH

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Re: Gardiners Single Trim Brushes
« Reply #101 on: August 14, 2008, 08:11:24 pm »
Nobody ever said it was a brush for working at great height only,the only reason it can be used at great height is because of it`s weight not the way it cleans.

Re: Gardiners Single Trim Brushes
« Reply #102 on: August 14, 2008, 08:12:53 pm »
But if its softly bristled it'll make splaying easier at height

Kevin R

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Re: Gardiners Single Trim Brushes
« Reply #103 on: August 14, 2008, 08:13:59 pm »
I was hoping the single trim or dual trim would be good for the lower level stuff but it just is not.

Is that because you think its too soft for lower level work, whereas these attributes speak for themselves at height?

I think you apply more pressure to  lower level work - especially as its not a simple up and down movement on the end of a long pole. I do believe the brushes are too soft for lower level work.

NWH

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Re: Gardiners Single Trim Brushes
« Reply #104 on: August 14, 2008, 08:18:01 pm »
I was hoping the single trim or dual trim would be good for the lower level stuff but it just is not.

Is that because you think its too soft for lower level work, whereas these attributes speak for themselves at height?

I think you apply more pressure to  lower level work - especially as its not a simple up and down movement on the end of a long pole. I do believe the brushes are too soft for lower level work.
Your right you do but just because you have a soft bristled brush it dosen`t mean it will clean well it just has a better chance,the main problem with this brush is the bristles and lack of them.The more bristles you have the less chance you have in the brush folding flat.

Kevin R

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Re: Gardiners Single Trim Brushes
« Reply #105 on: August 14, 2008, 08:20:55 pm »
Nobody ever said it was a brush for working at great height only,the only reason it can be used at great height is because of it`s weight not the way it cleans.

It was designed to complement the Superlite pole. Which is mostly used at height. People buy the Superlite as the dont want a 7.5 kg carbon 60 ft pole as its hard work to use. A vikan it just too heavy for the SL2 the Bently is for sweeping the floor in hairdressers.

It cleans fine on the end of a Superlite in my opinion. If I was using a 60 ft carbon it would be too soft as the weight of the pole pressing against the glass would splay the bristles flat - its horses for courses - its as simple as that  ;)

Wayne Thomas

Re: Gardiners Single Trim Brushes
« Reply #106 on: August 14, 2008, 08:22:22 pm »
The dual trim super lite brush is an excellent weight and size. It is best suited to high level work on a SL-2 for maintenance cleans or for cleaning on sash windows with old glass or leaded windows. It could do with more bristles as it requires more scrubbing effort to remove baked on bird pooh than a Tucker brush although it does remove it but with a lot more effort.

I have cut a Tucker brush down to the perimeter of the bristles, then filed the back of the stock right down to the staples retaining the bristles...now it is almost as light as gardiners superlite brush but performs better and still gives me the confidence to clean with minimum effort knowing that I'll remove all baked on bird pooh.

Need to have confidence in a brush simply because I don't want to have to inspect windows after completing a job.

Still haven't got around to testing the single trim version out yet...will do soon but on ground floor windows.

Kevin R

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Re: Gardiners Single Trim Brushes
« Reply #107 on: August 14, 2008, 08:24:39 pm »
I was hoping the single trim or dual trim would be good for the lower level stuff but it just is not.

Is that because you think its too soft for lower level work, whereas these attributes speak for themselves at height?

I think you apply more pressure to  lower level work - especially as its not a simple up and down movement on the end of a long pole. I do believe the brushes are too soft for lower level work.
Your right you do but just because you have a soft bristled brush it dosen`t mean it will clean well it just has a better chance,the main problem with this brush is the bristles and lack of them.The more bristles you have the less chance you have in the brush folding flat.

I agree with you about the bristles but for rinsing on its better to have less bristles. So therefore its suited to high work where rinsing on is better for you body and safety.

NWH

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Re: Gardiners Single Trim Brushes
« Reply #108 on: August 14, 2008, 08:28:12 pm »
When it`s really high work customers accept that the windows won`t be spotless.

Wayne Thomas

Re: Gardiners Single Trim Brushes
« Reply #109 on: August 14, 2008, 08:32:05 pm »
I rinse with the brush on and it's more, not less bristles it needs to scrub better. There's plenty of water flow through the bristles in comparison to other brushes. For rinsing on all you want is a mono filament brush so that it doesn't retain the dirt at the end of the bristles unlike a flocked brush that does. For scrubbing performance you need more bristles. The splay on the dual is just a tad soft but pretty good at all heights so not bad overall