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Lee Pryor

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Re: Average wage for a window cleaner
« Reply #180 on: February 11, 2019, 03:11:49 pm »
ok im back in, sorry couldnt resist.

"nothing adds up"

Well then how do we live, how do we continue to grow? Whos paying for the holidays and nice cars and so on? Where's that money coming from? Thin air?

Could spend all day here going through it and you still just wont get it.


Lets remind everyone of a clear fact. I have been the one man band, I started trad from nothing, I have been at every stage from there to here. You have not. So when you with no experience at all of anything past the point you are at right now, come on here saying it doesn't add up, you have literally no idea of what you are talking about.
The best way to predict the future is to create it.

John Mart

Re: Average wage for a window cleaner
« Reply #181 on: February 11, 2019, 03:12:10 pm »
How can there be no work to skip, if Mrs x is due in 8 weeks and your employee is off on holiday who cleans Mrs x property ?
If I take a holiday I will either skip the work or do it either the week before or after the holiday (extra time), I would be a total mug to do this for nothing as an employee with holiday entitlement.
Another employee. No one has a fixed round - the work is allocated on a daily basis. No one puts in a double shift. We're usually a little behind anyway - especially in the summer. Don't worry about us. We're fine.  ;D

Touched a raw nerve, as per usual with you guys nothing adds up.
Ok Sean.  ???

John Mart

Re: Average wage for a window cleaner
« Reply #182 on: February 11, 2019, 03:12:58 pm »
ok im back in, sorry couldnt resist.

"nothing adds up"

Well then how do we live, how do we continue to grow? Whos paying for the holidays and nice cars and so on? Where's that money coming from? Thin air?

Could spend all day here going through it and you still just wont get it.


Lets remind everyone of a clear fact. I have been the one man band, I started trad from nothing, I have been at every stage from there to here. You have not. So when you with no experience at all of anything past the point you are at right now, come on here saying it doesn't add up, you have literally no idea of what you are talking about.
He's just Sean being Sean.  ;D

Lee Pryor

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Re: Average wage for a window cleaner
« Reply #183 on: February 11, 2019, 03:21:04 pm »
Lee
What makes you think you are the biggest in the south?
By turnover?
By vans on the road?
Or by profit


Because nobody else would be foolish enough to try and build a large window cleaning business in the south, Lee's guys average £70k a year, he pays them £30k plus costs holiday pay and so on, lets say £40k, that leaves  him around £300k for 2 office staff an office manager, 10 vans and all the other equipment, premises and marketing the list goes on, theres a reason why theres no Amazon or Virgin window cleaning.
Believe me if there was real money in this he wouldnt be broadcasting it to all on here.

Oh this is just pure gold! Actually made my day.

How on earth do you get to 40k per staff member? haha. One of the 2 girls is the manager so not 2 plus manager. I own 4 of our 10 vans outright and the list of where your wrong goes on and on.

So in your last sentence your saying there is no money in window cleaning. Jesus we all better find another job then!

Your totally right theres no money left for me, im skint ha!! My mrs and I will be poolside in dubai (again) in 3 weeks(4k for the week). While im there with a g&t in my hand at the swim up bar, still being paid and everything running fine without me, I will try to work out where it all went wrong. Dont worry I will let you know when the answer comes to me. In the mean time ive decided to not work today, (just because I can) instead I will jump in my brand new 75k m4 cabrio and drive into town where I will drop off my 7k breitling navitimer to get serviced before we go away. Then im off to purchase a new video camera which I plan to use for our new youtube chanel starting next month (watch this space) Oh and as theres no money in window cleaning I better swing by the job centre to sign on while im out! On my way home I might pop into the office just to see if the £4k on the worksheets for today got done and click the button to start all of it being collected by direct debit.

Yep, theres no money in window cleaning past being a 1 man band. I better cancel the 2 brand new vans on order. Thank god you were here to save me from myself before I made a huge mistake.  :'(

Growing your business to achieve financial freedom and freedom of personal time = ...........brilliant

1 man band online haters slating a person whos business is fast approaching a million a year=.......... priceless!
If this is what money does to you, no thanks, I’d rather be skint!


Try to see the fact im having a laugh mate. Of course if you want to be skint then good for you, enjoy that.
The best way to predict the future is to create it.

jonboywalton75

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Re: Average wage for a window cleaner
« Reply #184 on: February 11, 2019, 03:26:37 pm »
Lee
What makes you think you are the biggest in the south?
By turnover?
By vans on the road?
Or by profit


Because nobody else would be foolish enough to try and build a large window cleaning business in the south, Lee's guys average £70k a year, he pays them £30k plus costs holiday pay and so on, lets say £40k, that leaves  him around £300k for 2 office staff an office manager, 10 vans and all the other equipment, premises and marketing the list goes on, theres a reason why theres no Amazon or Virgin window cleaning.
Believe me if there was real money in this he wouldnt be broadcasting it to all on here.

Oh this is just pure gold! Actually made my day.

How on earth do you get to 40k per staff member? haha. One of the 2 girls is the manager so not 2 plus manager. I own 4 of our 10 vans outright and the list of where your wrong goes on and on.

So in your last sentence your saying there is no money in window cleaning. Jesus we all better find another job then!

Your totally right theres no money left for me, im skint ha!! My mrs and I will be poolside in dubai (again) in 3 weeks(4k for the week). While im there with a g&t in my hand at the swim up bar, still being paid and everything running fine without me, I will try to work out where it all went wrong. Dont worry I will let you know when the answer comes to me. In the mean time ive decided to not work today, (just because I can) instead I will jump in my brand new 75k m4 cabrio and drive into town where I will drop off my 7k breitling navitimer to get serviced before we go away. Then im off to purchase a new video camera which I plan to use for our new youtube chanel starting next month (watch this space) Oh and as theres no money in window cleaning I better swing by the job centre to sign on while im out! On my way home I might pop into the office just to see if the £4k on the worksheets for today got done and click the button to start all of it being collected by direct debit.

Yep, theres no money in window cleaning past being a 1 man band. I better cancel the 2 brand new vans on order. Thank god you were here to save me from myself before I made a huge mistake.  :'(

Growing your business to achieve financial freedom and freedom of personal time = ...........brilliant

1 man band online haters slating a person whos business is fast approaching a million a year=.......... priceless!
If this is what money does to you, no thanks, I’d rather be skint!


Try to see the fact im having a laugh mate. Of course if you want to be skint then good for you, enjoy that.

NO one wants me to be skint,
Just  not rich and big headed
Arrogance is not a positive attribute 😱

Lee Pryor

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Re: Average wage for a window cleaner
« Reply #185 on: February 11, 2019, 03:31:29 pm »
Your wrong mate, you have to be a bit arrogant/confident/mad to push forward to higher levels. Those traits can be good things. Lets also not forget you don't know me, have never met me, and your only experience of me is on this forum. Perhaps Im a certain way in business and totally different in my personal life. You don't know do you., because you don't know me. I do what I have to do in order to get the job done and reach the goals I aspire to. If along the way faceless strangers and haters think im arrogant then good, Im glad you do.
The best way to predict the future is to create it.

Knocker

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Re: Average wage for a window cleaner
« Reply #186 on: February 11, 2019, 03:33:52 pm »
This is a great thread......reminds me of the old days on here..

Lee Pryor

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Re: Average wage for a window cleaner
« Reply #187 on: February 11, 2019, 03:34:57 pm »
This is a great thread......reminds me of the old days on here..

I know, its on fire!

Have to say for once im loving it
The best way to predict the future is to create it.

Knocker

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Re: Average wage for a window cleaner
« Reply #188 on: February 11, 2019, 03:55:18 pm »
Hi Lee

i have said this before, but i think your mad for giving away all this free information....

Bungle

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Re: Average wage for a window cleaner
« Reply #189 on: February 11, 2019, 04:08:33 pm »
We look at them, they look through them.

tlwcs

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Re: Average wage for a window cleaner
« Reply #190 on: February 11, 2019, 04:10:03 pm »
Your wrong mate, you have to be a bit arrogant/confident/mad to push forward to higher levels. Those traits can be good things. Lets also not forget you don't know me, have never met me, and your only experience of me is on this forum. Perhaps Im a certain way in business and totally different in my personal life. You don't know do you., because you don't know me. I do what I have to do in order to get the job done and reach the goals I aspire to. If along the way faceless strangers and haters think im arrogant then good, Im glad you do.


I honestly can’t fathom why you bother to post on here.
You certainly seemed to have achieved a level of success most of us envy, but not necessarily want to work so hard for or want to risk everything you did to emulate
You’ve spent time today replying to comments, to fight you corner, why?

If I’m charitable, you post your success stories to encourage others but then if anybody challenges or takes the micky you become argumentative. That’s fine, it’s your right. To me it just makes you the same as the one man band as your more prepared to try and mix it rather than rise above.
Your business profile
I once wrote that you had made a stupid comment on a thread you had commented on. Immediately you took it as I had called you stupid and changed your plans with a day or two to go, to attend the show where I could say it to your face.
See what I mean?

Your YouTube channel will serve you well, those who enjoy your success will follow, comment and encourage. The haters, fiss takers and everyone will either take no notice or you can ban them!
Written in spirit please note I haven’t called you fat or stupid. You stupid fattie. 😁

Tony


NWH

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Re: Average wage for a window cleaner
« Reply #191 on: February 11, 2019, 04:11:00 pm »
Hang on I’m just gonna quite an A4 page every time I reply,good god.

Lee Pryor

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Re: Average wage for a window cleaner
« Reply #192 on: February 11, 2019, 04:11:33 pm »
Bungle its no secret we don't get on. But credit where credit is due. That really made me laugh out loud!
The best way to predict the future is to create it.

NWH

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Re: Average wage for a window cleaner
« Reply #193 on: February 11, 2019, 04:18:20 pm »
I’ve also thought about the point of the return that you get Lee on you’re investment and time spent building,I know that as you say the business should run itself but everyone knows that no business runs itself.
Would you not be better off or could you not be just as well off if you scaled down to half the size you are now,20% after what you’ve done in a labour mainly intense sector with turning over 1 million pounds doesn’t sound a lot,the other side of my family have a massive business I’m not prepared to say what it is but it covers the south east,she has hundreds of employees but with 10 she turns over far more than a million pounds a year.

Lee Pryor

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Re: Average wage for a window cleaner
« Reply #194 on: February 11, 2019, 04:23:47 pm »
Your wrong mate, you have to be a bit arrogant/confident/mad to push forward to higher levels. Those traits can be good things. Lets also not forget you don't know me, have never met me, and your only experience of me is on this forum. Perhaps Im a certain way in business and totally different in my personal life. You don't know do you., because you don't know me. I do what I have to do in order to get the job done and reach the goals I aspire to. If along the way faceless strangers and haters think im arrogant then good, Im glad you do.


I honestly can’t fathom why you bother to post on here.
You certainly seemed to have achieved a level of success most of us envy, but not necessarily want to work so hard for or want to risk everything you did to emulate
You’ve spent time today replying to comments, to fight you corner, why?

If I’m charitable, you post your success stories to encourage others but then if anybody challenges or takes the micky you become argumentative. That’s fine, it’s your right. To me it just makes you the same as the one man band as your more prepared to try and mix it rather than rise above.
Your business profile
I once wrote that you had made a stupid comment on a thread you had commented on. Immediately you took it as I had called you stupid and changed your plans with a day or two to go, to attend the show where I could say it to your face.
See what I mean?

Your YouTube channel will serve you well, those who enjoy your success will follow, comment and encourage. The haters, fiss takers and everyone will either take no notice or you can ban them!
Written in spirit please note I haven’t called you fat or stupid. You stupid fattie. 😁

Tony

Actually Tony I was disappointed to not meet you at the show. I would have enjoyed chatting with you over a beer there. I think most people here would be surprised about what im really like in person.

My youtube channel will be aimed at people in our industry who are either a 1 man band who want to aspire to more or for companies that already have maybe 2/3 vans on the road and are finding it hard to get beyond that.  The goal of the channel will be to inspire others, share my experiences and also help me connect with like minded people. A bit like on here there are youtube channels with window cleaners already but they are mostly one man bands and don't have the experience I do. My videos will not be about how to clean a window or the latest brush. I will assume people watching already have moved past that point and I will be dealing with the bigger issues of running a business rather than being a window cleaner.
The best way to predict the future is to create it.

Lee Pryor

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Re: Average wage for a window cleaner
« Reply #195 on: February 11, 2019, 04:28:37 pm »
I’ve also thought about the point of the return that you get Lee on you’re investment and time spent building,I know that as you say the business should run itself but everyone knows that no business runs itself.
Would you not be better off or could you not be just as well off if you scaled down to half the size you are now,20% after what you’ve done in a labour mainly intense sector with turning over 1 million pounds doesn’t sound a lot,the other side of my family have a massive business I’m not prepared to say what it is but it covers the south east,she has hundreds of employees but with 10 she turns over far more than a million pounds a year.

My return on investment is as I want it to be.

I will not be moving in a backwards direction, ever.

Fair play to them, every business is different and I am not at the goal I want to achieve yet. I too have friends with much bigger and better businesses than mine. Im happy where I am right now.
The best way to predict the future is to create it.

jonboywalton75

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Re: Average wage for a window cleaner
« Reply #196 on: February 11, 2019, 04:54:37 pm »
Your wrong mate, you have to be a bit arrogant/confident/mad to push forward to higher levels. Those traits can be good things

Confidence and arrogance are two different things.
One is good the other I find repulsive.

cleaniac

Re: Average wage for a window cleaner
« Reply #197 on: February 11, 2019, 05:03:48 pm »
On a forum, if you are feeling negative, and read something someone wrote the whole context can be completely mis construde.

Arrogance or the perception of it is irrelivent if you want to grow your business. Lee isn't trying to win a populartiy contest, he is showing us how we can improve our businesses, and communicating that, that's all, if you find it arrogant, so what..either try to learn from some of the things he has done or carry on as you are, he doesn't care and neither do we if you wanna be a cry baby...boo hoo.

I have met lee, he is an easy to chat with, down to earth bloke.

I'm looking forward to the channel lee, it's refreshing to see someone who is business focused, not soneone who is consumer led with buying the best brush, or thinnest hose.



jonboywalton75

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Re: Average wage for a window cleaner
« Reply #198 on: February 11, 2019, 05:13:49 pm »
On a forum, if you are feeling negative,

How is trying to be a decent person who cares about others rather than being an arrogant individual who sounds so focused on his business that I would hate to be part of his family, negative???

I would have thought it was the opposite.

jonboywalton75

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Re: Average wage for a window cleaner
« Reply #199 on: February 11, 2019, 05:17:41 pm »
Most of us, me included, come on here to learn and if possible pass on a few good tips.
There are ways of saying things without belittling others people's way of living with comments about sipping g and t's in Dubai.