[CleanClear]

  So do baffles help in a crash?

As far as i'm aware no they don't. Baffles can help reduce "wobble", they can stop your water or fuel running clear of your inlet and thus avoid you getting an airlock,they can (in a road tanker) stop the weight running forward and lifting the tractor units wheels off the floor. But they cannot negate 650 litres (or whatever) coming to a dead stop.

[Smudger]

Sorry iPad tends to put its own words in-  wyvale tanks is what I meant.

I don't know if they would or wouldn't help in an actual crash, but as cc posted they help with better control of the vehicle.

Darran

[EandM]

  So do baffles help in a crash?

Many people are baffled after a crash.

[Smurf]

  So do baffles help in a crash?

Many people are baffled after a crash.

 

[martin hulstone]

So what i am saying is effectively right, it dont matter if it is baffled, strapped down or bolted to the chassis, the thin, one time use ibc tanks which you see on ebay for 30 quid are no use in a crash as they would just split open, they would not handle the impact as they are  not designed for continuous use. Im not saying all ibc tanks are one time use tanks but the see through ones that are surrounded by a steel cage are and should only be used for storing water in a stationary position ie pure water from the ro ready for transfer to van tank.

[Smurf]

So what i am saying is effectively right, it dont matter if it is baffled, strapped down or bolted to the chassis, the thin, one time use ibc tanks which you see on ebay for 30 quid are no use in a crash as they would just split open, they would not handle the impact as they are  not designed for continuous use. Im not saying all ibc tanks are one time use tanks but the see through ones that are surrounded by a steel cage are and should only be used for storing water in a stationary position ie pure water from the ro ready for transfer to van tank.

Ibc's are designed and crash tested to withstand impacts and minimize the risk of spillages whilts in transport.

[martin hulstone]

But they are designed for one time use as there name suggests

[Smurf]

Personally I would rather use a purpose built baffled water tank than stick an ibc in my van.
But each to their own I suppose.

[martin hulstone]

Agreed

[cgh window cleaning]

If you have work were you are using 1000 litres daily you should be earning enuff  to install a proper system.

Every one runs their business  different .Window cleaning is one of the few business were over heads and running costs are fairly low compared to others ,so installing a decent safe system should not be looked upon as  a luxury.

A  IBC tank may be fine in crash but you'll never know till it happens and would you want to take the  risk all for the sake of saving a bit of money.

[Smudger]

But they are designed for one time use as there name suggests

Lol !

Martin you really are a funny guy !

Darran

[martin hulstone]

Funny?
Im only going off what i have read and from my own research, the ibc tanks have very thin plastic, and why would they be called
One time use plastic ibc tank if they are for everyday use?
Only giving my opinion.
If you disagree that is fine, it is a forum after all.

[8weekly]

But they are designed for one time use as there name suggests

They are reused and their name doesn't suggest one time use. Two factual errors in a single sentence.

[Dave Willis]

Didn't Ionics crash test an IBC?

[Smudger]

Funny?
Im only going off what i have read and from my own research, the ibc tanks have very thin plastic, and why would they be called
One time use plastic ibc tank if they are for everyday use?
Only giving my opinion.
If you disagree that is fine, it is a forum after all.

Yes I disagree on the grounds your research is totally wrong and your aim was to rubbish another window cleaners setup just because it differed from your own.

Had you said you'd seen an unsecured 1000 litres ibc tank in a combo and in my opinion that looked dangerous then everyone, including me would have agreed..

[CleanClear]

Didn't Ionics crash test an IBC?

They did. They secured it in a way which an IBC is not meant to be secured, then sat back and watched it fail.

[Smudger]

CC - I'm with you, just thought I should let you know the tanks are baffled, which is both our points really, whether the tank is plastic, steel steel, gold plated or concrete it needs to be baffled.

There seems to be a few people that think wyvale tanks are baffled - in the truest form they are not, the slots are for strength and rigidity of the plastic tank.

If you want the best in baffled tanks you need a bespoke tank, failing that the "d" shaped tanks with plastic tubes inside would be a great choice.

Darran

Wyvale or wydale?
I just bought a wydale baffled tank with slots in, the description says they are baffled....

Did you get the tank with  "x" slots ?

[Shane sharples]

X slots? no, it's got one oblong shape in the middle, bought it with the frame to secure it to the van

[Smudger]

So that's the older style 6yes it's "baffled" but you will still get some slosh, I was hoping you had brought one of the new generation tanks, these are a much, much better design

And as from their website are specifically designed for vehicle use see below...

Introducing the new 'X' Baffle range
150 Litre Baffled Water Tank - Upright X-150

The 'X' Baffle gives increased stability whilst driving.

Unlike other tanks stability can be a hazard if water is left to 'slosh' around in the tank, with the new 'X' baffle this is reduced to a minimum.

This improved design over single baffled tanks and non baffled tanks will not only give an improved safer driving experience but will also help reduce wear on tyres & suspension.

The 'X' baffle is unique with its cross design tapered baffling

Designed specifically for car valeters and window cleaners but will have many other uses too]Introducing the new 'X' Baffle range
150 Litre Baffled Water Tank - Upright X-150

The 'X' Baffle gives increased stability whilst driving.

Unlike other tanks stability can be a hazard if water is left to 'slosh' around in the tank, with the new 'X' baffle this is reduced to a minimum.

This improved design over single baffled tanks and non baffled tanks will not only give an improved safer driving experience but will also help reduce wear on tyres & suspension.

The 'X' baffle is unique with its cross design tapered baffling

Designed specifically for car valeters and window cleaners but will have many other uses too

Darran

[martin hulstone]

Smudger, it seems to me that if anybody disagrees with you they are wrong. H