[Helen]

Going away from the original point now.
What's happened has happened, let it go.
Taking your business forward starts tomorrow

[Helen]

18k isnt a lot if hes earning a lot more and you expect him to do a 6 day week,i was earning that 18 years ago when i was 18 for a normal monday to friday job!

What did you do for a living then and who for? Were they a large or small company?

[windiewasher]

18k isnt a lot if hes earning a lot more and you expect him to do a 6 day week,i was earning that 18 years ago when i was 18 for a normal monday to friday job!

What did you do for a living then and who for? Were they a large or small company?

they were a large company landscape gardening!

[windiewasher]

if you have all that work richy and 70k a year commercial working coming in,i think you need him.put him on 20k a year!

[Carl@Cwc]

Richy,

In a previous topic you mention you turnover was approx £67000 and you employed 3 lads to achieve this.

On the figures you are quoting tonight, it seems you now expect him alone to cover the work of 3 lads or do you intend working day in day out alongside him?

I'm just going off what he can do a day,before break in in October we had prob £100,000 worth of work which was including newly canvassed work but lost a lot of that coz idiots and during break in computers were stolen, always hoped to rebuild back up and not lay staff off but they left before I had a chance

So since oct you have lost £33000 a month in work because your computers were stolen, surely you had a rough idea where the work was

GOOD POST THERE M8

how the hell do u lose £33k of custies pcm.
i know u said break-in & messers but honestly £33k of custies,  im assuming u meant £3300 , if so thats still catastrophic percentages in a numbers game business.
m8 imho u need to get off your pc/mac and sit in a dark room and really get your head straight.
u are destined for a very dark place the way you are going m8 ( hopefully not )
trades our way are £150pr day and this fella seems like he is up to the task ( ur opinion by the way )
if he leaves , which he well may ,you have to clean em yourself m8.
so ask yourself this?
do i pay him slightly more to play MD ,or get rid trim my round for me and get back on track running your business your way.

[Helen]

18k isnt a lot if hes earning a lot more and you expect him to do a 6 day week,i was earning that 18 years ago when i was 18 for a normal monday to friday job!

What did you do for a living then and who for? Were they a large or small company?

they were a large company landscape gardening!

Being a large company then they could afford to do it. 

[Nameless Drudge]

Look the bloke has you and the operation sussed out,he knows you and your business guru and god knows who else you have on the "board of directors"    just talk big and do nowt.

He is telling you he will be the slave but he`ll have to be a well paid one. If you don`t think this fella is worth £100 a day then just shut the door and turn the lights out now.

[windiewasher]

Look the bloke has you and the operation sussed out,he knows you and your business guru and god knows who else you have on the "board of directors"    just talk big and do nowt.

He is telling you he will be the slave but he`ll have to be a well paid one. If you don`t think this fella is worth £100 a day then just shut the door and turn the lights out now.

But he might just go and take all his work,he might be the monkey but hes the one on the tools earning the cash and could easily start up on his own.

[scud]

  I have read alot of Richys posts recently, and I am sorry but I have to call bullpoop on most of it.

 Richy, I think you just post crap that comes into your head and have nowhere near the amount of work you profess to have, if any at all.

[Smudger]

C'mon you gotta hand it to richy the threads are 100% entertainment 

Darran

[CLEANCARE WC]

Richy,

In a previous topic you mention you turnover was approx £67000 and you employed 3 lads to achieve this.

On the figures you are quoting tonight, it seems you now expect him alone to cover the work of 3 lads or do you intend working day in day out alongside him?

I'm just going off what he can do a day,before break in in October we had prob £100,000 worth of work which was including newly canvassed work but lost a lot of that coz idiots and during break in computers were stolen, always hoped to rebuild back up and not lay staff off but they left before I had a chance

So since oct you have lost £33000 a month in work because your computers were stolen, surely you had a rough idea where the work was

GOOD POST THERE M8

how the hell do u lose £33k of custies pcm.
i know u said break-in & messers but honestly £33k of custies,  im assuming u meant £3300 , if so thats still catastrophic percentages in a numbers game business.
m8 imho u need to get off your pc/mac and sit in a dark room and really get your head straight.
u are destined for a very dark place the way you are going m8 ( hopefully not )
trades our way are £150pr day and this fella seems like he is up to the task ( ur opinion by the way )
if he leaves , which he well may ,you have to clean em yourself m8.
so ask yourself this?
do i pay him slightly more to play MD ,or get rid trim my round for me and get back on track running your business your way.

THE PROBLEM IS THAT SOME PEOPLE TALK IN TERMS OF £.. PER MONTH AND OTHERS £..PER YEAR AND SOME PEOPLE SWITCH BETWEEN THE TWO IN THE SAME POST DOUBLE CONFUSING.

[Dave Willis]

Richy, tell me all about VAT - you must be an expert.
I think your guy has hit those figures on occasions - many of us do. I believe you haven't a clue how much work you have or haven't got and put in figures on here from the top of your head (or much lower down) I'm guessing you are factoring work in that you simply don't have but could have if every quote you have done comes true plus all the other jobs you think you might get. How can anyone possibly forget where thirty thousand pounds worth of work went?

You need help son.

[richywilts]

Richy,

In a previous topic you mention you turnover was approx £67000 and you employed 3 lads to achieve this.

On the figures you are quoting tonight, it seems you now expect him alone to cover the work of 3 lads or do you intend working day in day out alongside him?

I'm just going off what he can do a day,before break in in October we had prob £100,000 worth of work which was including newly canvassed work but lost a lot of that coz idiots and during break in computers were stolen, always hoped to rebuild back up and not lay staff off but they left before I had a chance

So since oct you have lost £33000 a month in work because your computers were stolen, surely you had a rough idea where the work was

GOOD POST THERE M8

how the hell do u lose £33k of custies pcm.
i know u said break-in & messers but honestly £33k of custies,  im assuming u meant £3300 , if so thats still catastrophic percentages in a numbers game business.
m8 imho u need to get off your pc/mac and sit in a dark room and really get your head straight.
u are destined for a very dark place the way you are going m8 ( hopefully not )
trades our way are £150pr day and this fella seems like he is up to the task ( ur opinion by the way )
if he leaves , which he well may ,you have to clean em yourself m8.
so ask yourself this?
do i pay him slightly more to play MD ,or get rid trim my round for me and get back on track running your business your way.

I may have figures slightly messed up I'm trying to go off memory I think we were nearing about 10-11000 every 6 weeks which may have been about 90k a year but that was including commercial works too Which at that point were prob around 7-8k a year

So it isn't a loss of 33k ,more in region of 15k which is about a third of all canvassed work as we had canvasser for approx ten weeks and he averaged 450 a week

[Dave Willis]

did you pay VAT? No? who cooks your books for you Richy?

[richywilts]

Richy, tell me all about VAT - you must be an expert.
I think your guy has hit those figures on occasions - many of us do. I believe you haven't a clue how much work you have or haven't got and put in figures on here from the top of your head (or much lower down) I'm guessing you are factoring work in that you simply don't have but could have if every quote you have done comes true plus all the other jobs you think you might get. How can anyone possibly forget where thirty thousand pounds worth of work went?

You need help son.

Il admit I'm not 100% as Chris used to deal with all the work etc who did my admin and when we changed over to round pro it's a complicated software programme not like window cleaner pro which u can forecast figures etc

Pop down my unit one day and I will show you all the daily logs andy has done on his own 8-4 recently

I know what value he is too me he obv thinks its more, I'm trying to be realistic as an employer I can't afford to pay more than 18gramd I think that's a fair wage for someone off the dole last year with no real trade behind them or skill

[richywilts]

did you pay VAT? No? who cooks your books for you Richy?

No I haven't paid vat coz start of tax year beginning April 2010 I didn't turnover massive amounts of money, and I've had weeks after break in etc where didn't work, plus we lost a 3 grand debt list when computer stolen so I know il be under it for this last year.

When I talk in value of work it's not what's been cleaned what I forecast to turnover over next 12 months

That's reads wrong the forecast is from the six weekly work I have times by 8.5 cleans a year,at minute I prob have just over 7.5 grands worth of work every 6 weeks

[Carl@Cwc]

HI M8 ( TRULY    )
GET A F**KING GRIP OF YOURSELF.
you have no idea of what u have and have not got.
get off your MD arse and make your business a viable and most importantly a seeable business .
i can speculate till the cows come home but : X13 DIVIDE BY 12 IS THE ONLY NUMBERS THAT MATTERS TO ME ON MY 4WKLY BASIS , DO UR NUMBERS M8

my last post on this one m8

HEAD UP, SHOVE BRUSH AROUND , WIPE SILLS, TIS REALLY SIMPLE REALLY!!!!

[Dave Willis]

like i said your counting work you haven't got  :

I'm seriously considering a break in this year followed by amnesia just before my next tax return  

[richywilts]

I have approx 7.5 K at moment to clean every 6 weeks this equates to 8.6 cleans a year which is roughly 65k a year on domestics that's what I meant about forecasting annual turnover not what I predict to turnover from gaining new work

[dave0123]

lol talking in riddles now .. never known such a complicated setup, i remember ages ago you said you don't really like cleaning windows so your obviously gna have to keep him and pay him 100 quid a day or what ever if you don't like doing it


what happened to this shop u was setting up?