[Catherine10]

With regards to sales people, canvassers in any form really to be honest.  You should expect hard graft and phone bashing, not just 10 mins, It has to be continuously picking the phone up, speaking, finishing the call and then Next. It cant be flaky as such - numbers game, even if you can do it for 1 hour a day, that would be 20/25 worth of prospects, but needs to be stuck at.  If I dont come up with results, I feel a failure....I want what's best for the client whose paying me....

[richywilts]

Right.

 This forum has all the best advice you need.

You are continually given it but continue with one folly after another.

I don`t think its you,its who you are closely surrounded by,somebody holds too much influence and i suspect its the pen pushing freeloader.Maybe it is you.  Someone ,either you or somebody else needs a severe beating,the biggest rollocking of their lives.This scenario of yours  is painful to observe.
 Bottom line is that all your problems stem from the fact that the business is top heavy,the people to dump are you and your pal or turn yourself into workers then when you`ve established £700-£1000 of good paying work a week each  you can employ.


Your canvasser(sales manager!) has had your pants down bigstyle,
ALSO anyone thats had a pound out of your pocket without cleaning a window for it.

Canvasser,monkeys off the dole paid peanuts to clean the  work produced means you are a crap window cleaning outfit and deserve to fail.

U have obviously not read all the posts carl the free loader has left now I'm left with me and Andy the good workeriv offered this lad a pay rise of approx 3 grand coz I value u him,I'm taking in the info given to me but it's one day at a time Rome weren't built in a day

[mikecam]

Believe what you want and keep on misunderstanding many of the statistics you hear bandied about.  Take average to mean exactly what you want.  Put a plastic bucket over your head.  Go to Grimsby on holiday.  I really don't care.  I've seen too much selective cutting and pasting like yours above to be interested in prolonging a pointless argument.

The law of averages (another one for ya!) says i will neither put a bucket on my head, nor go to Grimsby on holiday. Mainly because i don't like the people from over that way and i can't see when i've done that previously with a bucket. And i do agree with you when you say......
Seriously, it's one of the most misused words in politics.  Always wonder what someone really means if they just use the catch-all word "average".

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

ease all yr worries il take
all yr work on n pay u a third 
richy if that job comes off just bell me
il get ya all da insides done 

[ashbash]

what a muppet

[richywilts]

Whose a muppet

[AuRavelling79]

Whose a muppet

Kermit - and Big Bird to name but two ...

[Window Washers]

 I know I'll get flamed for it and told that you can prove anything with statistics, but how can you make decisions without facts?  

Cue Rain Man comments.

I'd only take issue with that fact that average means average. Median and all the rest of it is a complicated way of explaining a 'typical' wage 

This is where you're being misled and why people think that statistics can lie.

When someone says "average" most people automatically relate it to the "arithmetic mean" which is the sum of all the salaries divided by the number of people.  This is indeed an average, but it's not the average.

Unfortunately, "median" (as above) and "mode" (most common salary) are all legitimately referred to as "average".  The word "average" refers to all three.

That's why you'll get a manager in a big firm saying the average salary in this firm is £25K(so your salaries are OK) and a union leader saying it's £30K (so our salaries need to go up) and they can both be telling the truth.

"Average" is not equivalent to "mean"!

Don't take my word for it:

From Wikipedia antry for average "Many different descriptive statistics can be chosen as a measure of the central tendency of the data items. These include the arithmetic mean, the median, and the mode."

From Wiktionary: "The term average may refer to the statistical mean, median or mode of a batch".

Seriously, it's one of the most misused words in politics.  Always wonder what someone really means if they just use the catch-all word "average".

Vin

the other day I don't think I said it, now I will:

Geek 

although interesting, your defo a geek Vin