[Helen]

i think the problem is when advice is given and people say what it is like in black and white  a lot dont like it,  the whole point of forum, is to get advice as can guarantee someone else has ballsed up before,  learn from there mistakes,   

Absolutely spot on. If you don't want to hear advise or the truth then don't invite it.

Of course we have all made mistakes with our businesses, anyone who says they haven't are not being honest. But we learn from our mistakes or at least some of us do!

Most of us can relate to nearly all of the "happenings" that are put on this forum...why...because we have been there, read the book etc etc.

Of course if the "happenings" are not quite correct, then some people will get answers they don't like

[Steve CM]

It's not quite as bad as I've made out now....
Helen I think your a bit out of order you always jump the gun and harp on how crap I'm doing I'd like to see how you would cope in situation this last year ya quick enuf to judge I give honest posts about my situations and don't come on here lying I write honest posts and come here for advice.

I'm planning on asking my grandad to help out a little financially this weekend nd get back on track

FFS So now you say its not so bad, I have only commented on what you originally said and if that wasn't correct, then you have mislead everyone that has commented.
IF you read and understood things properly you would see that the concern I had was for your personal wellbeing..... but that concern was obviously misplaced as you didn't understand and again you just reach out to "blame" someone/something else.
By the way I am not alone in my thoughts about what you should do to put things right in your life so don't just have a poke at me
"Honest posts my a***
It's not quite as bad as I've made out now.... you words not anyone else's, so you weren't quite honest with that first post the were you.....
I wish you luck with whatever you do, but I just hope you have the health and family behind you to see it through.......oh and by the way your Grandad doesn't deserve to be pulled down with you.

As for hard times yes I've been through them and much worse than yours and so have many other thousands of people, just I wouldn't publish them to a forum of strangers to gain the sympathy vote...... so stop playing the role of " I am the only person this has ever happened to. The difference is that I was strong enough to get through and listen to what people were saying to me, take their advise and come out the other side a better person than I was before.

My apologies if I have offended anyone with this posting, it was unintentional. I just say it how I see it and if the original poster gets it wrong what hope have any of us got

Good post Helen. Although I seriously think there is no helping some people

[davids3511]

I'm planning on asking my grandad to help out a little financially this weekend nd get back on track

Jesus, you are running a business with multiple staff and vans and you are going cap in hand to your grandad. My advise, leave him alone, he needs it more than you do unless he is a very wealthy man. It's stuff like this that makes people say give up and get a job. I am a one man band running for just 4 years and I earned more then twice what you did last year.

[AuRavelling79]

Richy - you aren't going to like this:-

But what Helen and Davids3511 said sums it up.

You are all over the place (in business; emotionally; at home; maybe even mentally) - please think seriously about what they have said.

[richywilts]

What I meant was in the past she was persistently ringing me when we were having difficult time with my daughter to come home at present it ain't been that bad ,but bad enough to do my head in Helen when I'm trying to get business sorted and when both my operators are off I'll and I'm only one to clean that's wat aggravated me to post on here not that it was a persistent problem NOW

Everything I do or say u seem insistent on making me look like a dumb idiot, I do not cum on here for any sort of sympathy whatsoever just state whatever facts have been detrimental to my business to give people idea of where I am.

I do take some advice on board what people like you advise,you get personal though and try n rip me to pieces

[Ian101]

ay up Richy weve only ever spoken on the phone so we dont really know one another but think u need to stop posting too much info on here .. just my opinion mate

[Helen]

What I meant was in the past she was persistently ringing me when we were having difficult time with my daughter to come home at present it ain't been that bad ,but bad enough to do my head in Helen when I'm trying to get business sorted and when both my operators are off I'll and I'm only one to clean that's wat aggravated me to post on here not that it was a persistent problem NOW

Everything I do or say u seem insistent on making me look like a dumb idiot, I do not cum on here for any sort of sympathy whatsoever just state whatever facts have been detrimental to my business to give people idea of where I am.

I do take some advice on board what people like you advise,you get personal though and try n rip me to pieces

So based on what you had already said about business and your personal life, YOU gave the impression it was ALL bad.

By me saying go and get a job and be employed would take a lot of stress out of your life, but then then you obviously didn't understand that either.

At then end of the day if you don't like what I put then that's tough, as I said I am not the only one who thinks this way over the information you put on here, but you obviously feel that you can have a pop at me and not the rest.....why?
Sometimes the truth is hard to hear so if you don't want to hear it then don't post on here.
I have said this many times before to you.... (but you choose to ignore it)
I WISH YOU LUCK WITH WHATEVER YOU DO AND I MEAN THAT
But moreso I wish you good health which you are not going to have if carry on as you are.

[Helen]

ay up Richy weve only ever spoken on the phone so we dont really know one another but think u need to stop posting too much info on here .. just my opinion mate

and you are right Ian, if anyone posts anything on here they should expect people to reply, personally I would not if things were as bad as made out..... I certainly wouldn't be on a computer, I would be doing something to put things right, even if that meant working 24/7 to do so.

[Helen]

It's not quite as bad as I've made out now....
Helen I think your a bit out of order you always jump the gun and harp on how crap I'm doing I'd like to see how you would cope in situation this last year ya quick enuf to judge I give honest posts about my situations and don't come on here lying I write honest posts and come here for advice.

I'm planning on asking my grandad to help out a little financially this weekend nd get back on track

FFS So now you say its not so bad, I have only commented on what you originally said and if that wasn't correct, then you have mislead everyone that has commented.
IF you read and understood things properly you would see that the concern I had was for your personal wellbeing..... but that concern was obviously misplaced as you didn't understand and again you just reach out to "blame" someone/something else.
By the way I am not alone in my thoughts about what you should do to put things right in your life so don't just have a poke at me
"Honest posts my a***
It's not quite as bad as I've made out now.... you words not anyone else's, so you weren't quite honest with that first post the were you.....
I wish you luck with whatever you do, but I just hope you have the health and family behind you to see it through.......oh and by the way your Grandad doesn't deserve to be pulled down with you.

As for hard times yes I've been through them and much worse than yours and so have many other thousands of people, just I wouldn't publish them to a forum of strangers to gain the sympathy vote...... so stop playing the role of " I am the only person this has ever happened to. The difference is that I was strong enough to get through and listen to what people were saying to me, take their advise and come out the other side a better person than I was before.

My apologies if I have offended anyone with this posting, it was unintentional. I just say it how I see it and if the original poster gets it wrong what hope have any of us got

Good post Helen. Although I seriously think there is no helping some people

Hmmmm, you are soooooooooo right Steve.
Still don't know why he chooses to "pop" at me and not others, I certainly haven't said the worst things

[davids3511]

What I meant was in the past she was persistently ringing me when we were having difficult time with my daughter to come home at present it ain't been that bad ,but bad enough to do my head in Helen when I'm trying to get business sorted and when both my operators are off I'll and I'm only one to clean that's wat aggravated me to post on here not that it was a persistent problem NOW

Everything I do or say u seem insistent on making me look like a dumb idiot, I do not cum on here for any sort of sympathy whatsoever just state whatever facts have been detrimental to my business to give people idea of where I am.

I do take some advice on board what people like you advise,you get personal though and try n rip me to pieces

Richy, you seem like a decent fella but but you need to take stock of what you are doing. When you are in the middle of something you often can't see the wood for the trees. As Helen says, most of us on here have been through hard times in the past so know where you are right now.

For me I was running an ebay business before window cleaning. I was turning over 300k, was vat registered, had an office and so on. It all looked good. The truth was I was paying ebay more than I was earning myself. I was left with big debts and the business folded.

I learned from that experience to shave overheads to the minimum. Invest in what you need to enable you to make more money. If something/someone isn't making you more than they are costing you then you need to get rid and quickly.

I remember recently you said your salesman was struggling with cold leads as he was used to hot leads. Anyone can sell on a hot lead, the customer has already shown they want the proiduct you are selling. He isn't a salesman if he can only do hot leads. Get rid and do it yourself.

My advise is to shave your business down to the bone. Get rid of all work that pays less then £25.00 per hour. Assess what you have left and keep the best staff and service it between you.

[davids3511]

[Still don't know why he chooses to "pop" at me and not others, I certainly haven't said the worst things

I think you are telling it like it is and that isn't always what people want to hear.

[stuart mc]

I agree with david and helen, and borrowing from anyone is not the answer, get shot of the salesman, get shot of a window cleaner, cut right back and earn decent money, how far back you cut is up to you, but borrowing is not a way forward

[Pope vader]

there is an echo on this site,  ever one is telling him the same thing, but  becasue the lads get 7 jobs he thinks all things are great,  the office guy seems to only work when he thinks he will get sacked, 

[davids3511]

there is an echo on this site,  ever one is telling him the same thing, but  becasue the lads get 7 jobs he thinks all things are great,  the office guy seems to only work when he thinks he will get sacked, 

I haven't read all his posts but I bet the office lad is a mate and Richy doesn't want to sack him. Could be wrong but why else put up with a saleman who struggles to sell?

[Neil Williams]

Never employ mates and never treat employees as your best mates...... trust me it doesn't work. Been there got the tee shirt wrote the book
That doesn't mean you have to be rude or nasty to employees just don't go to the other extreme and I'm suspecting Richie treats his staff as best mates which is why they are taking the pizz.

[Pope vader]

i think he wants to be there mate instead of boss,  i can guarantee that his misses is annoyed with the fact that he is paying wages and not paying him self,  with baby on way,

[deeege]

Good luck turning things around mate, but whatever happens, atleast listen to the advice below.

ay up Richy weve only ever spoken on the phone so we dont really know one another but think u need to stop posting too much info on here .. just my opinion mate

And fwiw I agree that however much I cringe when I read your posts about your most recent idea/problem, some people seem to take great enjoyment jumping all over you for it.

[Dave Willis]

Sales? I don't understand it. This business is the best there is because of the repeat work. You don't need sales once your up and running. Ritchy your fat arsed lazy git in the office is taking the money that should be yours. Does he turn over more than you pay him? Does he earn more than you? When your staff are ill send the lazy git out and make him work for a living.

[Helen]

[Still don't know why he chooses to "pop" at me and not others, I certainly haven't said the worst things

I think you are telling it like it is and that isn't always what people want to hear.

Oh dear, perhaps I need to guess what people want to hear and put that instead. but surely that would be wrong
 

[Helen]

Good luck turning things around mate, but whatever happens, atleast listen to the advice below.

ay up Richy weve only ever spoken on the phone so we dont really know one another but think u need to stop posting too much info on here .. just my opinion mate

And fwiw I agree that however much I cringe when I read your posts about your most recent idea/problem, some people seem to take great enjoyment jumping all over you for it.

I think the term you were looking for was concern for this guy, not enjoyment at his predicament.
Anyone who takes enjoyment out of someone else's downfall is a waste of a human being.
All of us who have made comments/suggestion were trying to help him out of the situations he says he finds himself in as most of us have been through similar trials and tribulations.