[P @ F]

Helen , you are loving this thread are you not ?

I dont often post on serious matters , but shortly i will , this is one thats out there on its own , having been through the mill lately i feel i could at last have some valid points .

Rich  

[stuart mc]

Helen , you are loving this thread are you not ?

I dont often post on serious matters , but shortly i will , this is one thats out there on its own , having been through the mill lately i feel i could at last have some valid points .

Rich  

I don't think she is, I imagine her banging her head against a table or wall, trying to give good advice, but hey it is up to richy in what he does

[Helen]

Helen , you are loving this thread are you not ?

I dont often post on serious matters , but shortly i will , this is one thats out there on its own , having been through the mill lately i feel i could at last have some valid points .

Rich  

I don't think she is, I imagine her banging her head against a table or wall, trying to give good advice, but hey it is up to richy in what he does

Spot on.
Not that he would believe it , but if I lived closer I would offer FOC help for his business, whether it was actual out on the road work or admin work, to help him see where it needs tweaking. Sometimes an outsider can see more than when it is right under your nose. I'm not saying I know it all....who does, but a fresh pair of eyes can be worth ££££'s at times.
Exactly it is up to Richy what he does with his business and any advice he has been given, but if he takes no notice or doesn't want to hear hard facts then why post in the first place.

[dazmond]

some people have to have a total financial and emotional collapse(rock bottom) before they start to listen and take the advice of others.i reckon richy could be one of them people.

i cant see anything but a steady ratching up of pressure due to stress,debts,missus,kids and an eventual breakdown.......its in the post.......IMO.

[Halfadaylee]

some people have to have a total financial and emotional collapse(rock bottom) before they start to listen and take the advice of others.i reckon richy could be one of them people.

i cant see anything but a steady ratching up of pressure due to stress,debts,missus,kids and an eventual breakdown.......its in the post.......IMO.

It will all end in tears, shame really.
Art

[davids3511]

[Still don't know why he chooses to "pop" at me and not others, I certainly haven't said the worst things

I think you are telling it like it is and that isn't always what people want to hear.

Oh dear, perhaps I need to guess what people want to hear and put that instead. but surely that would be wrong
 

It wasn't meant as a criticism Helen.

[gary999]

i think you are all wasting your time rattling on.

its obvious the chap in question posted looking for tea and sympathy
not advise for problems that may or not be happening and feelling sorry
for himself.

if problems are really that bad time to stop whingeing take a look in the
mirror decide you can see testicles and start making the decisions that
are neccessary to protect yourself and your family.

if things arent really that bad stop whining quit window cleaning
and become a carpet cleaner they are all nutters and whingers




















and if everything thing else fails...dont worry ive got a banjo with your name on it!

[richywilts]

Daz I'm certainly not having a breakdown il assure you

As for asking for sympathy the tone of the post was tongue in cheek asking if others getting nagged by there partners and try and take advantage of you being self employed and being ur own boss as my partner does. I certainly wasn't requiring sympathy I cudnt give two hoots.

I'm the first to hold my hands up and say I've made mistakes and if taken risks trying to achieve bigger things maybe before I'm ready but at time if made a decision to employ based on workloads etc and struggling to cope with all the tasks required cleaning quoting taking payments having babies etc so if taken on staff and delegated unfortunately things ain't gone to plan things may have been a lot different had break ins not occurred but siht happens and if had to get on with it best we can, now do I go backWards and lay staff off and hope to go forward? Or do I go forward and keep staff and risk going backwards and financial ruin? That's for me to decide and weigh up and take on board many people's opinions and advice

[dazmond]

im not saying you are having a breakdown richy but even you yourself said some time ago that you ve had one before and with the way you overcomplicate a very simple business it could well be the road your heading down.

you obviously dont want to take any  advice from other more experienced window cleaners so you ll just have to make your own mistakes.however hard they may be.

you situation is not unique.it happens to loads of people that have their own businesses.they inevitably crash and burn eventually.then some learn from it and build better things.others turn to drink and drugs and really mess up.others commit suicide as they cant bear failure.some are that selfish they kill their wife and kids as well.very sad.

best wishes


dazmond

[Pope vader]

i got a text msg last nite from my mate who is the one who wants to be a big fish,  he is selling up and wants 8 k for 1500 worth of work a month,  he has gone from 4 vans and sitting in a office  to him,  and gf part time,  he use to pay staff when there was no work or custy didnt pay instead of getting rid, he use to employ kockers instead of doing it him self, or getting staff to do it,  when he startd to lose work,  told him, to sell off work, just run as a 2 man (him and gf) and f the rest, never bothered taking advice, nows got to sell up,  as owes 17 k worth of business debt only been going less than 3 years

[Ian101]

Bid him £4500   

[Ian101]

Can never understand folk that buy work then loose it ...... money down drain

[NJWindowCleaning]

its not just me then...

night mare i share your pain rich

I share the same night mare as well!!

[daniel worgan]

Daz I'm certainly not having a breakdown il assure you

As for asking for sympathy the tone of the post was tongue in cheek asking if others getting nagged by there partners and try and take advantage of you being self employed and being ur own boss as my partner does. I certainly wasn't requiring sympathy I cudnt give two hoots.

I'm the first to hold my hands up and say I've made mistakes and if taken risks trying to achieve bigger things maybe before I'm ready but at time if made a decision to employ based on workloads etc and struggling to cope with all the tasks required cleaning quoting taking payments having babies etc so if taken on staff and delegated unfortunately things ain't gone to plan things may have been a lot different had break ins not occurred but siht happens and if had to get on with it best we can, now do I go backWards and lay staff off and hope to go forward? Or do I go forward and keep staff and risk going backwards and financial ruin? That's for me to decide and weigh up and take on board many people's opinions and advice

Richy.....

Move on how you see fit mate.Take all the advice on board that has been given,disregard the tossers on here with their negative comments towards your situation...you dont need a twat with a banjo,you need a direction and positive thinkers around you.
Sometimes before reality checks in you have to hit rock bottom,but to hit rock bottom you need to lose everything that you have achieved and built.Now i dont know you personally but i do know that you wont let this happen....by the snippets of information that appear on here it is obvious you have a good amount of business and a family....what more can a man want?
Look after yourself and your nearest and dearest,let the others fight for themselves...just like you are doing at the moment.
I reckon you will move forward now this is all out in the open,think positive thoughts and move forward...scale down to the point where you are a sole trader,maybe keep one worker on ...BUT ONLY IF YOU CAN JUSTIFY THEIR INCOME....become happy with your whole business and family life and then if you still have the ambition to do so increase the size of your business.I am sure you will find that second time around you dont make the same mistakes....
Good luck Richy......

[gary999]

Daz I'm certainly not having a breakdown il assure you

As for asking for sympathy the tone of the post was tongue in cheek asking if others getting nagged by there partners and try and take advantage of you being self employed and being ur own boss as my partner does. I certainly wasn't requiring sympathy I cudnt give two hoots.

I'm the first to hold my hands up and say I've made mistakes and if taken risks trying to achieve bigger things maybe before I'm ready but at time if made a decision to employ based on workloads etc and struggling to cope with all the tasks required cleaning quoting taking payments having babies etc so if taken on staff and delegated unfortunately things ain't gone to plan things may have been a lot different had break ins not occurred but siht happens and if had to get on with it best we can, now do I go backWards and lay staff off and hope to go forward? Or do I go forward and keep staff and risk going backwards and financial ruin? That's for me to decide and weigh up and take on board many people's opinions and advice

Richy.....

Move on how you see fit mate.Take all the advice on board that has been given,disregard the tossers on here with their negative comments towards your situation...you dont need a numpty with a banjo,you need a direction and positive thinkers around you.
Sometimes before reality checks in you have to hit rock bottom,but to hit rock bottom you need to lose everything that you have achieved and built.Now i dont know you personally but i do know that you wont let this happen....by the snippets of information that appear on here it is obvious you have a good amount of business and a family....what more can a man want?
Look after yourself and your nearest and dearest,let the others fight for themselves...just like you are doing at the moment.
I reckon you will move forward now this is all out in the open,think positive thoughts and move forward...scale down to the point where you are a sole trader,maybe keep one worker on ...BUT ONLY IF YOU CAN JUSTIFY THEIR INCOME....become happy with your whole business and family life and then if you still have the ambition to do so increase the size of your business.I am sure you will find that second time around you dont make the same mistakes....
Good luck Richy......

aahhh another with banjo potential

[daniel worgan]

Quick on that gary999...just waiting to pounce eh?....

As i said Richy best to by pass the negativty that comes from a few.

[G Griffin]

I was going to defend Richy, as I thought the original post was a bit tongue in cheek.
But walking out on his wife when she was pregnant is not good  . I'm not judging him but it makes you think about his ability to see things through.
Let's hope you learned from it, Richy  .

[Pope vader]

what negativty, some people are telling it like it is,  he posts problems, then people give there opinion and then he says well its really not that bad,

[g.brookes]

my advice would be get rid of your laptop, and just deal with your stuff yourself. 

[gary999]

Quick on that gary999...just waiting to pounce eh?....

As i said Richy best to by pass the negativty that comes from a few.

dont be such a baby i clock on most mornings and have a look

the only negativity is coming from himself.

there is nothing wrong with a person who has a problem coming looking
for advice and people who are a lot smarter than me have given sound advice
but this post is just whinging and whining about problems that are self inflicted.

anyway dont attack the banjos they are only here to help