[Ian Mason]

When the reservoir levels diminish, they then begin drawing off of local rivers. I think there is a limited time period for them to do this though.

[Sapphire Window Cleaning]

I don't think this summer will be that warm to be honest.
The met office has stopped long range forecasts because they cannot predict it.




Matt

[LWC]

No problem if you have a bore hole though!

Guess what i got 

[ian1972]

so let me get this right the gutters on the house i own belong to the councils?i dont think so and if they do they can come and bloody well clean them them lol

[Sapphire Window Cleaning]

I did not say that did I?
I said that once the rain water hits the guttering or gullies then it becomes the property of the water board.
rain water that hits the road doesn't belong to the water board until it flows into a drain.
I know this to be true as my neighbour works for Anglian Water!
Guttering is only there to protect the property from water damage!



Matt

[Sapphire Window Cleaning]

lets set this straight!

1st I doubt very much that we will be having a scorching summer like 2003!
The Met Office have stopped giving long range forecast as they unpredictable!

2nd WFP will NOT be banned if they implement a hosepipe ban!
This is because we alter the state of the water before we use it!

Right everyone got that?

Maybe if people stopped putting posts up here without reading some facts from the appropriate websites, we won't have the scare mongering.
There's a lot of guys on here that have only been set up 12 months or less, and scare mongering like this could make them quit the industry!



Matt

[BORBRYCE]

Surely we start using it the second it comes out the tap, as part of a process. if we didn't, nothing would get purified.

[ian1972]

matt that is exactly the point i was trying to make i was in no way getting at you at all

[Sapphire Window Cleaning]

Ian I wasnt having a go at you mate, just some others thinking or stating WFP will be banned.
there was a big meeting in London a few years ago with regards to WFP and hosepipe ban, solicitors, DEFRA, H&SE, FWC and loads of window cleaners were present,
Defra wanted to ban WFP's during a hosepipe ban, because they said that we could "use bucket and sponge" just goes to show how ignorant they are to the industry, how many of us use a bucket and sponge, even using traditional method we don't use a bloody sponge!
H&S were saying that we should be using a safer alternative to ladders.




Matt

[Sapphire Window Cleaning]

Surely we start using it the second it comes out the tap, as part of a process. if we didn't, nothing would get purified.

We use pure water to clean windows, we alter the state of the water before it reaches the holding tank, whether it be an IBC tank or the tanks in the van.
otherwise drinks companies will stop making drinks, kitchens would close because they cannot clean the plates etc, car valeters ARE included in the hosepipe ban as they use tap water to pre-wet and rinse.




Matt

[Ian Mason]

lets set this straight!

1st I doubt very much that we will be having a scorching summer like 2003!
The Met Office have stopped giving long range forecast as they unpredictable!

2nd WFP will NOT be banned if they implement a hosepipe ban!
This is because we alter the state of the water before we use it!

Right everyone got that?

Maybe if people stopped putting posts up here without reading some facts from the appropriate websites, we won't have the scare mongering.
There's a lot of guys on here that have only been set up 12 months or less, and scare mongering like this could make them quit the industry!



Matt

I do get the impression that there is quite a few on here with the intention of getting people to quit, & also hope to see others never start up at all!

It is usually anti trad WFP`s, or anti WFP tradders behind these comments!

I would love to know how many window cleaners there are nationally, & how many of which are members on here, just to put their "putting people off" into perspective. :

[Martin ccs]

lets set this straight!

1st I doubt very much that we will be having a scorching summer like 2003!
The Met Office have stopped giving long range forecast as they unpredictable!

2nd WFP will NOT be banned if they implement a hosepipe ban!
This is because we alter the state of the water before we use it!

Right everyone got that?

Maybe if people stopped putting posts up here without reading some facts from the appropriate websites, we won't have the scare mongering.
There's a lot of guys on here that have only been set up 12 months or less, and scare mongering like this could make them quit the industry!



Matt

well said matt!

[Sapphire Window Cleaning]

Ian I was just commenting on this thread and this forum.
over the past 12 months there has been a lot of guys on here either starting up or moved over from Trad to WFP.

There will be a few guys on here that will be confused, as they are being told ladders are banned! and then we get a post like this saying WFP will be banned in a hosepipe ban.

I trad some windows and WFP others. WFP has its place and so does Tradional methods. I am not anti Trad or anti WFP.

Plus I have noticed a few guys on here that are anti-newbies to the industry.
WHY? after all, we were once new to window cleaning.



Matt

[Sapphire Window Cleaning]

lets set this straight!

1st I doubt very much that we will be having a scorching summer like 2003!
The Met Office have stopped giving long range forecast as they unpredictable!

2nd WFP will NOT be banned if they implement a hosepipe ban!
This is because we alter the state of the water before we use it!

Right everyone got that?

Maybe if people stopped putting posts up here without reading some facts from the appropriate websites, we won't have the scare mongering.
There's a lot of guys on here that have only been set up 12 months or less, and scare mongering like this could make them quit the industry!



Matt

I do get the impression that there is quite a few on here with the intention of getting people to quit, & also hope to see others never start up at all!

It is usually anti trad WFP`s, or anti WFP tradders behind these comments!

I would love to know how many window cleaners there are nationally, & how many of which are members on here, just to put their "putting people off" into perspective. :

I agree with you Ian



Matt

[cozy]

UK, hot summer?  Have I misread this?

[Sapphire Window Cleaning]

LOL @ Cozy

[lee_dewing]

There's a lot of guys on here that have only been set up 12 months or less, and scare mongering like this could make them quit the industry!

this was me in 2006, just set-up wfp trolley system.

we had the driest winter 05 and summer 06.

in the end i spoke to steve lowe fwc (as i was a member back then)
pretty much what you said matt.

It is intresting it's always the little people that get lynched!

coca cola waste thousands or is it millions of litres of water when producing there drinks no-one picks on them.

I belive paint manufacturers waste alot of water too.

When is it a good time to be a window cleaner?

this wfp ban appears every year without fail :

[Ian Mason]

Ian I was just commenting on this thread and this forum.
over the past 12 months there has been a lot of guys on here either starting up or moved over from Trad to WFP.

There will be a few guys on here that will be confused, as they are being told ladders are banned! and then we get a post like this saying WFP will be banned in a hosepipe ban.

I trad some windows and WFP others. WFP has its place and so does Tradional methods. I am not anti Trad or anti WFP.

Plus I have noticed a few guys on here that are anti-newbies to the industry.
WHY? after all, we were once new to window cleaning.



Matt

Hi Matt,

I agree with pretty much all that you say on all of your posts, & you have a great logic on these things!

I am going to have to learn to word things better because I keep typing posts, & then realise they can be taken either of 2 ways, lol.

I have asked on a few occasions for people that state that such & such is going to be banned to provide full facts, but more often than not, it is an attempt to put others off of window cleaning, or they are quoting from a gossip post made ages ago :

[Mike_G]

Surely the point is, if there is a major drought, and thats highly unlikely then using wfp to clean windows when you might not be able to flush your bog more than once a day would not be a good idea regardless of where you get your water from.

[GB Window Cleaning]

you cant stop someone using water if they require it to make a living!
i would have thoughts "starbucks" with there taps on constant day and night arnt really bothered or the car wash services
 i think its different if you need it to make a living out of it! maybe a limit at the most?