[Sapphire Window Cleaning]

If you think more regulation is required with our industry or not please vote.
Just interested in the response from fellow window cleaners.





Matt

[drwindows]

Oh please dont start, you'll have that scottish bloke banging on about licensing in england again, which is exactly what we DONT want.

[daz1977]

to be honest, i can see the day that u will need a licence in england, and to get that u will need ur NVQ,  insurance etc

[paul rulton]

as long as it dont cost anything & u aint gotta sit on a crap course
if u ave then they can poke it

[paul rulton]

to be honest, i can see the day that u will need a licence in england, and to get that u will need ur NVQ,  insurance etc

they can shove that rite where the sun dont shine
i tell u now i 4 1 will never do it so i will b elegal hehe oh i can live wiv that

[ian1972]

Its not going to happen guys they might bring a licence in but it just b to get more money out of the working class and not to stop cowboys as for banning ladders they are supposed to b for access not working off.but as a shiner is up and down quicker than some birds knickers I can see it happening

[lee09]

Morning.
What makes you think or how will regulation stop the dole cheats or cowboys.
There will alway be people who turn a blind eye and employ these people.

I lost one the other day because their son had lost his job and he has a family to support, so they were going to pay him. Is he a cowboy or dole cheat?

All I know is while I am paying to be regulated, there will always be these people.

Lee

[Sapphire Window Cleaning]

Instead of saying "it wont be regulated" why not give some suggestions of HOW it could or should be regulated.





Matt

[ian1972]

That's a hard 1 to b honest as I can't see how it would b done and enforced propprely and fairly.and reading some of the posts about licencing in Scotland it doesn't seem to work.I really don't mean to b negative about just can't see how except on commercial work

[Nathanael Jones]

Dole cheats should be regulated without a doubt, but I wouldn't want any new regulations costing existing/established/honest cleaners any time, money or paperwork related stress.

[AuRavelling79]

Council officers have got more important things to worry about - you know the sort of thing - how to support a focus group to encompass transvestite care in the community and how to set up a steering group to discuss child development on St. Helena.

The Police can't even stop a disabled woman and her child being bullied to death so they aren't gonna be interested.

Regulation for windies is a complete waste of time. We're cleaners for goodness sake!

[Sapphire Window Cleaning]

Steveo I still use trad on some windows, I am not starting a Trad/WFP war.
All I am looking at is what percentage of Window cleaners on here want or dont want more regulation within the trade.
Don't get me wrong, I am all for guys starting up within the industry and fully understand that they can only afford Trad gear and use their own cars.
Thats how I started out, but when you have guys on benefits coming out when the sunshines and only charging £3-4 for a 3 bed semi and they have no PL insurance and have no respect for customers or their property it gives us all a very bad name.



Matt

[steveo22]

Those people won't last, if they mess around at customers houses and do a bad job then its only a matter of time before they get the boot. If every window cleaner was as professional and dedicated as ourselves then that would be the time to worry!!

[Central Window Cleaners]

I think our industry should be regulated or licensed but I do not think it would be policed well enough.

Scotland have a licensing system already and from what i understand this does not stop the cowboys as it is not policed properly.

[michael papworth]

Council officers have got more important things to worry about - you know the sort of thing - how to support a focus group to encompass transvestite care in the community and how to set up a steering group to discuss child development on St. Helena.

The Police can't even stop a disabled woman and her child being bullied to death so they aren't gonna be interested.

Regulation for windies is a complete waste of time. We're cleaners for goodness sake!

Thank you for that. A bit of perspective is useful now and again.

The problem is that the government might just see that regulating window cleaners sits well with parking enforcement, smoking in public buildings regulation enforcement and closing care homes - those other vital council responsibilities.

You'd then be getting letters from your local "Senior Fenestration Maintenance Operators Regulation Administrative Assistant" urging you to pay your licensing fees by direct debit monthly to avoid fines for late payment.

[formb]

Oh please dont start, you'll have that scottish bloke banging on about licensing in england again, which is exactly what we DONT want.

Guess what I'm a Scottish bloke, we are licensed and it works. Not long ago a convicted sex offender was arrested for cleaning windows without a license. It works if you have nothing to hide it will benefit you.

[Sapphire Window Cleaning]

I think it will too formb, but we have to have it on a national license not a county one.


Matt

[formb]

to be honest, i can see the day that u will need a licence in england, and to get that u will need ur NVQ,  insurance etc

We don't need NVQs etc. But we do need insurance + a police check.

[formb]

as long as it dont cost anything & u aint gotta sit on a crap course
if u ave then they can poke it

We pay £150 for 5 years. It is almost a good idea as it puts off wannabes especially this time of year but, you only have to prove you are insured at the start of the term. I personally send a copy of my insurance in every year.

[formb]

I think our industry should be regulated or licensed but I do not think it would be policed well enough.

Scotland have a licensing system already and from what i understand this does not stop the cowboys as it is not policed properly.

If some f***er undercuts you and nicks your customer without a license you can report the slimey little dole cheat.