[Clive McDonald]

How are you honest? You admitt to being a shallow person but that doesn't make you honest. That's like admitting i'm a liar and therefore honest.

At least i'm honest, at least i proved them all wrong.... Do you think you are the first person to have these thoughts?

95% of us think these things.

[wizard]

I don’t think Ronny`s needs are out of line. Remember its what he wants out of his business it might not be our. You go Ron,just make sure you love those kids and give them of yourself Mate.

For Ewan if you do not work for money you can give me you excess any time

For its growth in all aspect of my business and move on from self employment to a business. Sorry mate it will always mean staff. I have never employed in the U K but looking forward to the challenge.
The growth I want is increase profits, increase turnover in line with profits. Have more happy clients, A better reputation. A bigger slice of the market and the admiration and respect of my pears as well as be a contributor to this industry. I will be happy to have a big tax bill .This is the thrust of where I want to go in my small business.

[ronnie paton]

why am i shallow, do you you run your business to make the biggest profit you can? dioes this mean earning more money?
  many things strive me on not one individual thing but i enjoy not worrying about money give the best i can to my self and my family.

im groing my business so less time is spent running it and more with my family without losing out on the money, but because you dont agree im wrong???

[MSTAV]

it does seem like you are just trying to big yourself up ronnie to be honest. well to me i dont care who thinks they are the big i am etc. i just do what i gota do and try to survive. If i was loaded I wouldnt be bragging about it like you are. but hey thats just me we are all different.

[Tosh]

why am i shallow,

I've got to lock that one as quote of the week! 

[ronnie paton]

go ahead hope it makes you happy.

[ronnie paton]

it does seem like you are just trying to big yourself up ronnie to be honest. well to me i dont care who thinks they are the big i am etc. i just do what i gota do and try to survive. If i was loaded I wouldnt be bragging about it like you are. but hey thats just me we are all different.

im not loaded and why am i bragging?? iv done well in four years but im not finished here, im not loaded but i provide the people who i care about my family.......so has long has these people are happy then thats all that counts.

[MSTAV]

well the other day you was going on about 250k a year on a post you created which haveing the amount off staff you have you meant you in that post. Respect. wish i could do it but thats just life i guess. some have it some dont.

[ronnie paton]

sorry but you got it wrong im a million miles away from that trust me, i have two staff and me(part timeish) ifwe was doing that i wold be gobsmacked.

[MSTAV]

ohh. my bad. 

[dazmond]

its got to be profit every time or else why bother?put it this way if i won the lotto tommorrow i wouldnt do this job as a hobby!!

1.make a profit

2.good name

THATS IT!!

[Frankybadboy]

its got to be profit every time or else why bother?put it this way if i won the lotto tommorrow i wouldnt do this job as a hobby!!

1.make a profit

2.good name

THATS IT!!

where you been daz.?

[mark dew]

I can't see any point in doing business apart from making profit.
The rest is just vanity.

There are many large & small non profit businesses in the UK, they aren’t vain at all; they reinvest any money back into the business as well as give it away. All business needs profits to operate, but that’s not what the profits are for, a lot have already said the profit they make is for the benefit of there family.

So nothing else is important with your business?

No ewan. It is all about getting the work done well in as little time as possible.

[Moderator David@stives]

My business is a product of having to have a job and put food on the table.

I moved to Cornwall 1996 without a job and £2k of savings, we moved into rented accomodation which with living next to a pub slowly began to eat my savings.

Every time a bill dropped through the letter box, I used to dread it.

I didnt get a job for six months partly due to there being no jobs, or which ones were availabe, you needed skills, or they were part time.

The only thing that has ever motivated me is money, so when one day my wife was asked by a friend if she knew a window cleaner has she needed £1000 worth of window cleaning doing, as fast as I could I ran to the shop, bought a bucket and sponge, oh and borrowed a ladder, and just grown from there.

In all the time since the biggest motivator for me is still money, admittidly I chase turnover, but thats not saying profits are low, in fact my business operates at 50% net profit, which is very good considering the size of my wage bill.

I will keep on in this manner until I feel I get to a level where I have a saleable business.

So the answer in a long winded way is having enough money to maintain my lifestyle and not having to worry about bills, I cant remember the last time a bill dropped through the letter box and thought "How the hell am I going to pay that"

[Sean Dyer]

wow your so shallow

[Moderator David@stives]

Yes, very shallow

[Tosh]

Yes, very shallow

He'd be shallower if he said he liked expensive clothes and gorgeous women, and only worked so that he could thumb his nose at other people.

There's a difference between wanting financial security and being shallow.

[ronnie paton]

yawn yawn, i like what i like ause i am what i am.

if you want to shop at aldi and i want to shop at m & s i must be shallow, i work hard so nie things are what i deserve and many things motivate me weathers doubters or money ir seurity or the hallenge has long has it works for me.

[pingu]

Come on nothing wrong with wanting the better things in life...everything in morderation...

Dave.

[Clive McDonald]

You really have done well dave.Assuming you weren't sitting on a house sale egg at the time (96).

Ronnie, so have you.