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Re: guttervac & sl2
« Reply #20 on: October 14, 2008, 06:51:13 pm »
38mm to 51mm inlet? simple change the inlet size and use some tin snips to make the hole bigger in order to attach it.

No good doing that as the SL2 is around the 38mm size anyway.






Yes, i know, i was just stating it was easy to go from a 38 to 51 mm inlet.

Kevin R

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Re: guttervac & sl2
« Reply #21 on: October 14, 2008, 06:52:43 pm »
:) a few hundred quid means a lot to some of us!
Don't forget Kev, you are a big fish for Glyn, good advertising, pictures on the site etc.
I wouldn't think Glyn would knock up a tool overnight for every vac owner. ;D


I think Im a small customer for Glyn. I have only bought one machine from him. I thought about buying another but its so efficient you would need a massive building to need two or more. Maybe as I expand then another will be necessary but for now ones great. I find the most efficient way to use it even at lower heights is two men and one machine. Not because of weight but because of logistics etc etc.  

Glyn / Andrea etc, at Omnipole are fantastic, their customer service is excellent. You have to remember its still newish technology and they are interested in customer feedback as it only improves their product. From day one to now they have been great.

Im sure if you asked Glyn for a tool he would help as much as he could - I always have found he has always had something on the drawing board anyway as his cleaning firm use it and of course they have come across the same problems.

So for me this type of service is invaluable  ;)

Re: guttervac & sl2
« Reply #22 on: October 14, 2008, 07:26:32 pm »
Glyn H or Kev R

What's the omnipole dimensions for use with gutter vac? Is that 50 ish mm? Are there base only sections like the sl2? Looking at the omnipole on the web the other week, it look tapered ???

ftp

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Re: guttervac & sl2
« Reply #23 on: October 14, 2008, 07:31:47 pm »
One advantage with the hefty power pole would be that you could thrash it about a bit with the spike fitted i would imagine. Probably couldn't do that with the S2.

Kevin R

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Re: guttervac & sl2
« Reply #24 on: October 14, 2008, 07:34:27 pm »
Glyn H or Kev R

What's the omnipole dimensions for use with gutter vac? Is that 50 ish mm? Are there base only sections like the sl2? Looking at the omnipole on the web the other week, it look tapered ???

 The sections are 50 mm. Its not tapered. You basically get two sets of tubes. One slightly smaller than the other. The smaller slides inside the larger. Then you slide a larger tube over the smaller and so on until you reach the required height. This also gives you a telescopic advantage on each two sections. So you can set the correct height exactly to the gutter. This is not possible on the SL2 as the sections are fixed.

Also there are no numbered sections as the larger sections have clips on and the smaller ones don't so assembly is very quick and easy.

Hope that makes sense  ;D

Re: guttervac & sl2
« Reply #25 on: October 14, 2008, 07:37:46 pm »
Glyn H or Kev R

What's the omnipole dimensions for use with gutter vac? Is that 50 ish mm? Are there base only sections like the sl2? Looking at the omnipole on the web the other week, it look tapered ???

 The sections are 50 mm. Its not tapered. You basically get two sets of tubes. One slightly smaller than the other. The smaller slides inside the larger. Then you slide a larger tube over the smaller and so on until you reach the required height. This also gives you a telescopic advantage on each two sections. So you can set the correct height exactly to the gutter. This is not possible on the SL2 as the sections are fixed.

Also there are no numbered sections as the larger sections have clips on and the smaller ones don't so assembly is very quick and easy.

Hope that makes sense  ;D

Id like to see a better picture on the website to explain this fact. It was the main reason why i was put off the omnipole, as i thought it was tapered - the pictures are not clear, it does look tapered.

So the smallest section is 50mm i presume?

Kevin R

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Re: guttervac & sl2
« Reply #26 on: October 14, 2008, 07:43:07 pm »
One advantage with the hefty power pole would be that you could thrash it about a bit with the spike fitted i would imagine. Probably couldn't do that with the S2.

The power pole is no longer used to hold the vacuum tubing (I do wish Glyn would remove those pictures as its the old system).

Th power pole is used as a multi tool. It can be used for a spike, as a high level pressure washing lance, holds the camera etc etc. I own three!!!!

They are too heavy for daily wfp in my opinion but they cannot be beaten when used with a spike or as a pressure lance for flushing etc etc - solid and well built. You can literally hang on it when trying to force weeds, plants etc from gutters.

Trust me to complete overgrown commercial guttering jobs and the odd domestic the spike is a necessity. I tried the cheap glass fibre / carbon fibre approach but after breaking several I spent my cash. I haven't managed to break a power pole yet though.

ftp

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Re: guttervac & sl2
« Reply #27 on: October 14, 2008, 07:47:53 pm »
One small drawback i can see is that everything is what 51mm? Yet many gutters won't take a nozzle that big so the advantage is lost?

*frank cannon

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Re: guttervac & sl2
« Reply #28 on: October 14, 2008, 07:49:59 pm »
Kev

have omnipole started producing carbon poles over a certain length as there was some sort of mention of it on one of there sites today

thanks...frank

Re: guttervac & sl2
« Reply #29 on: October 14, 2008, 08:12:54 pm »
One advantage with the hefty power pole would be that you could thrash it about a bit with the spike fitted i would imagine. Probably couldn't do that with the S2.

The power pole is no longer used to hold the vacuum tubing (I do wish Glyn would remove those pictures as its the old system).



Sorry i actually mean the omni wfp modular, that still looks tapered. A close up of the pole for use with the vac, showing the fixings would be beneficial at least.

Jeff Brimble

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Re: guttervac & sl2
« Reply #30 on: October 14, 2008, 08:19:59 pm »
For those that want c/f the emporium extensions are one of the largest dia on the market at 45mm at the top of the taper. Larger dia means more suck.
The large bore Omni alu is parallel sided and I prefer its robustness over the c/f sections , there is just something "extra" about the alu tubing - I was using the f16 sections 2 years ago

Kevin R

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Re: guttervac & sl2
« Reply #31 on: October 14, 2008, 10:52:29 pm »
Kev

have omnipole started producing carbon poles over a certain length as there was some sort of mention of it on one of there sites today

thanks...frank


Don't know Frank

You would have to ask Glyn  ;)

Kevin R

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Re: guttervac & sl2
« Reply #32 on: October 14, 2008, 10:57:18 pm »
One small drawback i can see is that everything is what 51mm? Yet many gutters won't take a nozzle that big so the advantage is lost?

In some commercial gutters I wish I had 200 mm let alone 51 mm. Also the 51 mm bore hardly ever blocks. So far I have only blocked it with a whole wet tee shirt and a bouncy ball. Both got stuck at the entry to the machine. The 38 mm is a bit wee for my liking. Omnipole original tubing was 38 mm and they increased it because of constant blockages and the downtime while unblocking it.

ftp

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Re: guttervac & sl2
« Reply #33 on: October 15, 2008, 04:40:46 pm »
Looking for a generator and have found Loncin LC5000  5kva on ebay for £379 brand new
How come Glyns selling them for £660 plus vat? Am i looking at something different?
Chinese apparently.


Glyn H

Re: guttervac & sl2
« Reply #34 on: October 15, 2008, 05:25:57 pm »
Its fairly obvious you cannot afford our equipment from your posts :)

What you should be asking is can your customers afford your prices or are they constntly looking for someone to clean their windows cheeper ;D

ftp

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Re: guttervac & sl2
« Reply #35 on: October 15, 2008, 05:31:06 pm »
Don't get funny Glyn, i'm just asking questions, this isn't an Omnivac forum remember, i'm discussing this with everyone. I can't see any sense in throwing money away thats all.
I could easily afford the top of the range wfp outfit but choose not to. I could easily afford your best system but choose not to because it makes poor business sense to chuck my money away. If that Generator is the same then why would i want to stuff a couple of hundred notes in YOUR pocket? Better off in mine don't you think?

Kevin R

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Re: guttervac & sl2
« Reply #36 on: October 15, 2008, 05:35:21 pm »
I found this on another forum, Its from the very respected Jeff Brimble who now owns an Omnivac, I found it very interesting. See for yourselves

Quote -

This pic is after 90 minutes of horizontal vacuuming sharp grit and gravel to asses the damage caused, after 60 minutes the tube became "flexible" and after 90 minutes as thin as card and crushable. This was to asses the wear for using as a diy guttervac.

End Quote




Kevin R

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Re: guttervac & sl2
« Reply #37 on: October 15, 2008, 05:49:46 pm »
Looking for a generator and have found Loncin LC5000  5kva on ebay for £379 brand new
How come Glyns selling them for £660 plus vat? Am i looking at something different?
Chinese apparently.



Have you got a link?

A friend of mine recently bought a "quality make" pressure washer from ebay / china. It was fitted with all the wrong fittings so my friend had them all replaced with the correct threads etc. ~Within a few days it suffered a fatal high pressure "blowout" which has made it unusable or repairable - he did not get his money back :-[

Not saying anything really apart form be careful as ebay isn't all its cracked up to be sometimes. 

*frank cannon

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Re: guttervac & sl2
« Reply #38 on: October 15, 2008, 06:00:21 pm »
Don't get funny Glyn, i'm just asking questions, this isn't an Omnivac forum remember, i'm discussing this with everyone. I can't see any sense in throwing money away thats all.
I could easily afford the top of the range wfp outfit but choose not to. I could easily afford your best system but choose not to because it makes poor business sense to chuck my money away. If that Generator is the same then why would i want to stuff a couple of hundred notes in YOUR pocket? Better off in mine don't you think?

ftp

have a look on just generators site  sdmo is a good make or any of the others which have honda engines;don,t know about loncin is it honda powered?

ftp

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Re: guttervac & sl2
« Reply #39 on: October 15, 2008, 06:11:35 pm »
Loncin is chinese i'm pretty sure. I've been to my local supplier and anything with a genuine Honda engine doubles in price. Stephill seem to be the best value Honda engined generators but still quite pricey. I was offered a Suntom (honda engine the guy said) but they are Chinese and less than four hundred. I know Kev runs a Loncin so i thought i would look for one. I was suprised to find Omnivac use them too. Maybe they are ok i don't know.