[Kevin R]

I think you know what I mean Kev! They may not cover all the way down were you are but they certainly have a very big 'patch' for themselves in more than one market. And from what I can see that stabs a proportion of its customers in the back.

If you sold a man a knife and fork but then stole his bread would that be fair or good business?

Pro

Are you making the accusation that I have ever taken anybodies work?

I have been involved in Window Cleaning for 31 years
Graffiti Removal for 24 years
and Gutter Cleaning since 2001
I have never knowingly taken anybodies work.  have passed on hundreds of jobs to Omnipole customers.
I take exception that you make a veiled accusation that I would ever consider taking work from any one let alone an Omnipole customer.

Whats realy interesting is you dont give a location to where you are - no email no indication at all - what are you worried about?

Don't worry about it Glyn,

Some people like to hide behind words and wind others up - just look at a few of his lasts posts on this and other threads - pretty negative on the whole.

You can alway guarantee a good bun fight on CIU 

[ronnie paton]

glyn

I rang 2 weeks ago intrested in  the omnipole but i wanted to see in action you told me(or someone from the pffice did) that you would ring me the next day??

I dont mind paying good money for quality but i would like to see the vac in action first, im still very intrested.

[Glyn H]

Ronnie
Can you email me and I will arrange a demo.
Personally I was on Holiday a couple of weeks ago - sorry for the inconvieniance.

[Kevin R]

Glyn,

As in my previous posts about a electrical extension cable, would it be possible for you to source and sell a water resistant 240v 2.5 cable with a 16amp fuse ?

Your connections are better than mine for sure 

[matt]

kev     

i need a long extention lead from my geni to the vac. can you recomend any.

thanks

You can use 40m of 2.5 cable - They are hard to buy off the shelf like that. So adapted a standard extension reel. 

so you DIY'ed a extension lead 

No my electrician mate did though 

  , i guess you knew i was only joking 

I did LOL

You know I had no idea I needed a bigger cable/fuse until I was doing a commercial job and when I started winding the cable back in (standard extension) It felt very hot. I casually asked my mate and he sorted it for me.

i once worked for a builder, he had a bit of a joiners workshop in his yard

i had to make some windows for a job we had on, i set-up all the kit, even down to dust extraction ( a hoover with a nozzle at the action end )

i had a few power tools on the go, they all stoped at once, the guy had run a extension lead from his office into the workshop, i had melted the cable 

[Kevin R]

kev     

i need a long extention lead from my geni to the vac. can you recomend any.

thanks

You can use 40m of 2.5 cable - They are hard to buy off the shelf like that. So adapted a standard extension reel. 

so you DIY'ed a extension lead 

No my electrician mate did though 

  , i guess you knew i was only joking 

I did LOL

You know I had no idea I needed a bigger cable/fuse until I was doing a commercial job and when I started winding the cable back in (standard extension) It felt very hot. I casually asked my mate and he sorted it for me.

i once worked for a builder, he had a bit of a joiners workshop in his yard

i had to make some windows for a job we had on, i set-up all the kit, even down to dust extraction ( a hoover with a nozzle at the action end )

i had a few power tools on the go, they all stoped at once, the guy had run a extension lead from his office into the workshop, i had melted the cable 

Tis witchcraft it is 

[P®oPole™]

Glyn,

When were there any direct accusations made then!!

My opinion is, if your big, be big. And i doubt many omnivac users get passed that work in and around your manor.

To me this looks like you were colluding to cut the small guy right out of the picture. Something you just implied I flasley accused you of.

www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=53753.0

[matt]

I think you know what I mean Kev! They may not cover all the way down were you are but they certainly have a very big 'patch' for themselves in more than one market. And from what I can see that stabs a proportion of its customers in the back.

If you sold a man a knife and fork but then stole his bread would that be fair or good business?

Pro

Are you making the accusation that I have ever taken anybodies work?

I have been involved in Window Cleaning for 31 years
Graffiti Removal for 24 years
and Gutter Cleaning since 2001
I have never knowingly taken anybodies work.  have passed on hundreds of jobs to Omnipole customers.
I take exception that you make a veiled accusation that I would ever consider taking work from any one let alone an Omnipole customer.

Whats realy interesting is you dont give a location to where you are - no email no indication at all - what are you worried about?

Don't worry about it Glyn,

Some people like to hide behind words and wind others up - just look at a few of his lasts posts on this and other threads - pretty negative on the whole.

You can alway guarantee a good bun fight on CIU 

the humourous (even ironic ) thing is, he has gone on for a long time how bad DIY is, its better off the shelf, ionics this and ionics that, he can afford to pay for stuff thats off the shelf and doesnt have to DIY , his time is better served being the "pro" and earning more money than the rest

yet now

how do i build a DIY gutter vac and not pay the prices that glyn charges

only if we changed the word " omnivac " for the word "ionicvac" then it would be the best thing since sliced bread in his eyes

though to be honest, he is only a young kid, seems to shout his mouth off and not think what is being typed

[Kevin R]

I think you know what I mean Kev! They may not cover all the way down were you are but they certainly have a very big 'patch' for themselves in more than one market. And from what I can see that stabs a proportion of its customers in the back.

If you sold a man a knife and fork but then stole his bread would that be fair or good business?

Pro

Are you making the accusation that I have ever taken anybodies work?

I have been involved in Window Cleaning for 31 years
Graffiti Removal for 24 years
and Gutter Cleaning since 2001
I have never knowingly taken anybodies work.  have passed on hundreds of jobs to Omnipole customers.
I take exception that you make a veiled accusation that I would ever consider taking work from any one let alone an Omnipole customer.

Whats realy interesting is you dont give a location to where you are - no email no indication at all - what are you worried about?

Don't worry about it Glyn,

Some people like to hide behind words and wind others up - just look at a few of his lasts posts on this and other threads - pretty negative on the whole.

You can alway guarantee a good bun fight on CIU 

the humourous (even ironic ) thing is, he has gone on for a long time how bad DIY is, its better off the shelf, ionics this and ionics that, he can afford to pay for stuff thats off the shelf and doesnt have to DIY , his time is better served being the "pro" and earning more money than the rest

yet now

how do i build a DIY gutter vac and not pay the prices that glyn charges

only if we changed the word " omnivac " for the word "ionicvac" then it would be the best thing since sliced bread in his eyes

though to be honest, he is only a young kid, seems to shout his mouth off and not think what is being typed

I did get the impression from his last post that maturity is sadly lacking. He obviously takes competition as a personal threat.

Maybe with time he will understand that business is business be you large or small, and other people in business are more likely to help you if your nice 

[matt]

I think you know what I mean Kev! They may not cover all the way down were you are but they certainly have a very big 'patch' for themselves in more than one market. And from what I can see that stabs a proportion of its customers in the back.

If you sold a man a knife and fork but then stole his bread would that be fair or good business?

Pro

Are you making the accusation that I have ever taken anybodies work?

I have been involved in Window Cleaning for 31 years
Graffiti Removal for 24 years
and Gutter Cleaning since 2001
I have never knowingly taken anybodies work.  have passed on hundreds of jobs to Omnipole customers.
I take exception that you make a veiled accusation that I would ever consider taking work from any one let alone an Omnipole customer.

Whats realy interesting is you dont give a location to where you are - no email no indication at all - what are you worried about?

Don't worry about it Glyn,

Some people like to hide behind words and wind others up - just look at a few of his lasts posts on this and other threads - pretty negative on the whole.

You can alway guarantee a good bun fight on CIU 

the humourous (even ironic ) thing is, he has gone on for a long time how bad DIY is, its better off the shelf, ionics this and ionics that, he can afford to pay for stuff thats off the shelf and doesnt have to DIY , his time is better served being the "pro" and earning more money than the rest

yet now

how do i build a DIY gutter vac and not pay the prices that glyn charges

only if we changed the word " omnivac " for the word "ionicvac" then it would be the best thing since sliced bread in his eyes

though to be honest, he is only a young kid, seems to shout his mouth off and not think what is being typed

I did get the impression from his last post that maturity is sadly lacking. He obviously takes competition as a personal threat.

Maybe with time he will understand that business is business be you large or small, and other people in business are more likely to help you if your nice 

indeed

[Kevin R]

Well its been a fun evening thanks for the posts guys

Sleep well 

[Kevin R]

Oh dear Matthew,


A omnivac and diy one aren't that different in my eyes

I realise you have no idea what your talking about either.

Since the beginning of this topic you have slated the system and Glyn H and his company and now because your not getting your way you start on Matt?  You are now showing an IPAF Logo and your not a member -  Why not leave the grown up conversations to the adults and the people that like to discuss cleaning and its related subjects without hijacking threads that you obviously know nothing about 

[Jeff Brimble]

For commercial  work, Petrol vacs like Billygoat or Echo Bearcat are not powerfull enough and nether are 3X1Kw vacs, c/f modulars for commercial gutter cleaning are toys, and Omnipole have the best engineered bits -  Diy will take you ages to develop, I know, I really tried 
Listen to Kev.
You can take a horse to water but you cannot make it drink. 
Just my opinion.

[matt]

Oh dear Matthew,


A omnivac and diy one aren't that different in my eyes

I realise you have no idea what your talking about either.

Since the beginning of this topic you have slated the system and Glyn H and his company and now because your not getting your way you start on Matt?  You are now showing an IPAF Logo and your not a member -  Why not leave the grown up conversations to the adults and the people that like to discuss cleaning and its related subjects without hijacking threads that you obviously know nothing about 

its like groundhog day, his only arguement is rehashing old twisted non-facts, ive now stopped replying to them, its easy to ignore the childish little boy, not 1 of the points he has raised about me are even close to being true, anyways, im off out again, just to sit in my van and pretend i have a commercail job thats due ( alot like i did at 6 in the morning on sunday  : : )

[Kevin R]

Well today I have had a slightly lighter day - One commercial regular gutter cleaning job - not much to do at all one fill of the canister thats all.  Then went off to quote for two commercial gutter clearing jobs. One is quite big and will take a couple of days and the other is a 6 hour job. I have priced them fairly high as I am so busy at the moment, I guess I will find out in a day or two.

It was dry today so it was nice not to be staring up into the rain which is one downside of gutter clearing 

[P®oPole™]

Oh dear Matthew,


A omnivac and diy one aren't that different in my eyes

I realise you have no idea what your talking about either.

Since the beginning of this topic you have slated the system and Glyn H and his company and now because your not getting your way you start on Matt?  You are now showing an IPAF Logo and your not a member -  Why not leave the grown up conversations to the adults and the people that like to discuss cleaning and its related subjects without hijacking threads that you obviously know nothing about 

Kev,

How the hell don't I know what I'm talking about.

Instead of pointing out the positives of your system you have put down diy guttervac's and praised how good Omnivac's and how it can make a bounty of riches over inferior diy setups. Yet to me it seriously looks like exactly the same machine?

You could of told us about the pole or glyn's 'special hose' but you didnt

So whats actually different about the Omnivac itself to the machine many other suppliers sell?

I personally think Mr H's one is overall a much better setup for height and lightness of pole.


I done my IPAF on the 8th of September!

[P®oPole™]

Oh dear Matthew,


A omnivac and diy one aren't that different in my eyes

I realise you have no idea what your talking about either.

Since the beginning of this topic you have slated the system and Glyn H and his company and now because your not getting your way you start on Matt?  You are now showing an IPAF Logo and your not a member -  Why not leave the grown up conversations to the adults and the people that like to discuss cleaning and its related subjects without hijacking threads that you obviously know nothing about 

its like groundhog day, his only arguement is rehashing old twisted non-facts, ive now stopped replying to them, its easy to ignore the childish little boy, not 1 of the points he has raised about me are even close to being true, anyways, im off out again, just to sit in my van and pretend i have a commercail job thats due ( alot like i did at 6 in the morning on sunday  : : )

Matthew,

Your a grown man yet you lie like an ashamed child who has wet his pants. If you want me to trawl through finding were and when you said what, I will. But your the one who will look like a two bob liar!

[ronnie paton]

glyn emailed you like asked but got a reply saying you would only do a demo in london(i live in manchester) but i thought you said you would personally sort it??

the reply was off someone called Chris, hoping you can sort out a closer demo

thanks

[Kevin R]

Oh dear Matthew,


A omnivac and diy one aren't that different in my eyes

I realise you have no idea what your talking about either.

Since the beginning of this topic you have slated the system and Glyn H and his company and now because your not getting your way you start on Matt?  You are now showing an IPAF Logo and your not a member -  Why not leave the grown up conversations to the adults and the people that like to discuss cleaning and its related subjects without hijacking threads that you obviously know nothing about 

Kev,

How the hell don't I know what I'm talking about.

Instead of pointing out the positives of your system you have put down diy guttervac's and praised how good Omnivac's and how it can make a bounty of riches over inferior diy setups. Yet to me it seriously looks like exactly the same machine?

You could of told us about the pole or glyn's 'special hose' but you didnt

So whats actually different about the Omnivac itself to the machine many other suppliers sell?

I personally think Mr H's one is overall a much better setup for height and lightness of pole.


I done my IPAF on the 8th of September!

You don't know what your talking about as you don't have any experience of ANY gutter cleaning machinery or tooling. You comments are without basis.

"yet it looks like the same machine" It isn't Omnivacs is greatly modified - Got it yet?

How can you say Mr H's is a better set up? have you seen it? used it? compared it to an Omnivac?

Mr H and I spent the day together to compare both systems, and the biggest thing we decided was the DIY machine lacks tooling and bore - therefore its inefficient when compared to the Omnivac. I cleaned 3/4 of a school while he did 1/4.

Mr H is still developing a copy of the Omnivac - Has the penny dropped yet Propole?

Mr H's pole is a carbon fibre pole and while the lightness would be an advantage at great height, its disadvantage is it will wear out!!!  Omnivacs poles are not that heavy and perfectly useable up to 4 stories - most jobs are below this - Aluminum lasts! Still think carbon is a good idea for low standard work?

Did you know that rooted vegetation requires breaking up before the vacuum can remove it? A gutter spike is used for this purpose. Using a spike at 4 stories on a pole that wont snap or bend when you use it is the limiting factor due to weight.  Most gutters that are cleaned are overgrown and need debris fragmentation. So a carbon fibre pole may be ideal for Vacuuming at 60 ft but how do you break up rooted material - I shall tell you - you cant unless you get up close and personal with a cherry picker etc.  So what's the point of a super light vacuum pole if the limiting factor is the spike pole. If you used a spike on a carbon fibre pole it would break unless it was thick walled and then it would be as heavy if not more so than the aluminum powerpole.

Ok to show and use the IPAF logo you have to be a member. You are trained and certified but not a member. Give them a ring and you will see. Let them catch you using it and they will not be happy. Its a logo just like Ionics. You have to Pay to use it. You have not - you paid for a course.

I hope this is helping 

[P®oPole™]

I would refrain from questioning my knowledge in future especially about gutter cleaning!!

Mr H is a new user and your on it everyday, I don't see how his machine would make him any slower. He's got almost the same gear and a lighter pole.

The UpKeeper is the only and best purpose made guttervac in the Uk. I bet that would run hoops around your conveted hoover contraption.

I will look into tha about IPAF first thing in the morning.