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ftp

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Re: should YOU buy an Omnivac?
« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2008, 07:54:07 pm »
Kev, what voltage are you using? This electric in the rain bit worries me. ( i know very little)

P®oPole™

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Re: should YOU buy an Omnivac?
« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2008, 07:55:28 pm »
Kev 'the omnivac' is a 51mm triple 1200 the exact same machine you can buy anywere else ???

You said you hadn't the time to source the bits so Omnipole done it for you and I pressume charged well for it I also noticed they do that with allot of there other products, all off the shelf from suppliers and put together with a fancy sticker and nice price tag. I'd rather make a couple of phone calls.

Also I wouldn't buy from a company that sells goods to the consumer then goes behind his back to sell to the consumer of the consumer, very sly if you ask me! Glyn's firm are big players in more fields than one and they know how to use the tools they sell to us, I dont like it.


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Kevin R

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Re: should YOU buy an Omnivac?
« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2008, 08:01:55 pm »
Kev, what voltage are you using? This electric in the rain bit worries me. ( i know very little)

I use 240v - dont worry I had the same concerns but an electrician mate of mine passed it all ok after a couple of mods to my extension lead  ;)

ftp

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Re: should YOU buy an Omnivac?
« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2008, 08:04:17 pm »
Which were?

Kevin R

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Re: should YOU buy an Omnivac?
« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2008, 08:08:32 pm »
Kev 'the omnivac' is a 51mm triple 1200 the exact same machine you can buy anywere else ???

You said you hadn't the time to source the bits so Omnipole done it for you and I pressume charged well for it I also noticed they do that with allot of there other products, all off the shelf from suppliers and put together with a fancy sticker and nice price tag. I'd rather make a couple of phone calls.

Also I wouldn't buy from a company that sells goods to the consumer then goes behind his back to sell to the consumer of the consumer, very sly if you ask me! Glyn's firm are big players in more fields than one and they know how to use the tools they sell to us, I dont like it.


Pro

Yes you can buy the triple vac - but the omnivac has a modified inlet / hose connector. It accepts a massive 51 mm hose. It just doesnt block unlike the 38mm inlets.

I am not an engineer so like I said I am happy that Omnipole developed - tested - and demonstrated the machine before I bought it. The price difference allows for this service - their profit for their work - thats capitalism  ;)

Im sorry I dont really understand your last paragraph?



Kevin R

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Re: should YOU buy an Omnivac?
« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2008, 08:11:52 pm »
Which were?

All the plugs / connectors are water resistant (do not submerse). The cable is 40m and 2.5 cm. It had to be upgraded in size and to a 16 amp fuse due to its length. 


ftp

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Re: should YOU buy an Omnivac?
« Reply #26 on: September 30, 2008, 08:13:05 pm »
Thanks Kev.

Kevin R

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Re: should YOU buy an Omnivac?
« Reply #27 on: September 30, 2008, 08:14:15 pm »

P®oPole™

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Re: should YOU buy an Omnivac?
« Reply #28 on: September 30, 2008, 08:21:29 pm »
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Im sorry I dont really understand your last paragraph?

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I think you know what I mean Kev! They may not cover all the way down were you are but they certainly have a very big 'patch' for themselves in more than one market. And from what I can see that stabs a proportion of its customers in the back.

If you sold a man a knife and fork but then stole his bread would that be fair or good business?

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Kevin R

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Re: should YOU buy an Omnivac?
« Reply #29 on: September 30, 2008, 08:35:17 pm »
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Im sorry I dont really understand your last paragraph?

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I think you know what I mean Kev! They may not cover all the way down were you are but they certainly have a very big 'patch' for themselves in more than one market.

Pro

Ok I see what your getting at - I have a client that bought an Omnivac. They asked me to train them, I declined.  The asked me to quote work for them asking is it possible to do it with the Omnivac? Then they would try it themselves. They hate using the machine as they have learned its a skill that requires learning. Ok so now I do work for them and I know where my next cheap Omnivac is coming from, but even if they had sussed it should Omnipole have not sold the machine to my client? Don't we live in a free market?

I don't see that thats underhand?  I know most of the guys in my local area that do the same as I do - we all get on and drink coffee and chat whenever time allows but we all compete against each other in a business sense.  Thats business, I with their help and them with mine help to keep our prices competitive and at a good market value.  if someone gave me a massive contract on Glyn's doorstep would I ask his permission if I could do it - of course not.

The point is there is so much work out there who cares?


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Re: should YOU buy an Omnivac?
« Reply #30 on: September 30, 2008, 08:44:22 pm »
Kev,

You are confused mate. I didn't know that and am shocked that glyn would sell to your client and you still rate him so much. There has to be some kind of discount going on ;D

I'm talking about glyn and co Window cleaning. Am I also right in saying he is the biggest Guttervac Cleaning firm supplying the service in the UK.#

I cant work out why you started this topic, it just doesn't add up to me.

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cherubs cleaning

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Re: should YOU buy an Omnivac?
« Reply #31 on: September 30, 2008, 08:48:38 pm »
Kevin R


i think u r not allowed 240v on site





jerry

Kevin R

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Re: should YOU buy an Omnivac?
« Reply #32 on: September 30, 2008, 08:57:33 pm »
I dont think Glyn realised it was my client - the are a massive concern and even if he did so what? He has every right to sell to who he wants doesn't he?

And why the concern if Glyn has a cleaning firm? - Thats where the Omnivac was developed - He had a cleaning need that nothing else addressed so he built the solution. The difference is he didn't copy it unlike all the DIY ers have copied his.

I started this topic simply because In the current climate its good to know that there is good well paid work to be had for a little investment. This forum and others have really helped me in the past - shouldn't I return the favour or should I just come on here and get as much info as I can for free then keep it to myself?




Kevin R

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Re: should YOU buy an Omnivac?
« Reply #33 on: September 30, 2008, 08:59:20 pm »
Kevin R


i think u r not allowed 240v on site





jerry


What site? Do you mean building sites? I think you will find new gutters are usually ok for a bit LOL ;D

cherubs cleaning

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Re: should YOU buy an Omnivac?
« Reply #34 on: September 30, 2008, 09:01:40 pm »
Kevin R


any site were you r working




jerry

Kevin R

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Re: should YOU buy an Omnivac?
« Reply #35 on: September 30, 2008, 09:03:27 pm »
Kevin R


any site were you r working




jerry

I think you may need to do a little further reading my friend  ;)

ftp

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Re: should YOU buy an Omnivac?
« Reply #36 on: September 30, 2008, 09:04:42 pm »
I don't understand propoles argument, surely Alex Gardiner does the same? Supplies the industry and works as a windowcleaner?

Re: should YOU buy an Omnivac?
« Reply #37 on: September 30, 2008, 09:05:23 pm »
I agree with the 240v on site is not allowed

Kevin R

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Re: should YOU buy an Omnivac?
« Reply #38 on: September 30, 2008, 09:13:15 pm »
240v is not allowed in harsh environments such as construction sites. Gutter cleaning is not usually carried out on construction sites.

Please update yourselves here

theiet.org/factfiles/health/hsb34b.cfm?type=pdf

Kevin R

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Re: should YOU buy an Omnivac?
« Reply #39 on: September 30, 2008, 09:16:37 pm »
I don't understand propoles argument, surely Alex Gardiner does the same? Supplies the industry and works as a windowcleaner?

exactly - thank you ftp