[Simon Brannon]

You are correct in that Andrew sold me the system at Adepta over the telephone - if I'd have met him prior to having the system fitted however that may not have been the case.

I have tried ringing him but have not managed to contact him , hence the e-mail.
Everybody checks their e-mails every day so I thought that the best option.

This is a case of improper advertising - if people think thats acceptable then it shows what sort of people they are

Simon when did you send the email? could he be on holiday?
Why didn't you telephone him to sort out your concerns?

I do smell a rat here. Now I presume Andrew was the one who helped and advised you when buying your system from Adapta, so why stab the man in the back over something so trivial.

I've only ever rang PF once and was amazed at the lack of service I got when asking for advice and after all the praise I had read on here about Andrew. It was only later I found out that Andrew McCann had left and I had been speaking to another Andrew at Adapta. So if this is some kind of witch hunt then it hasn't worked for me. I would ring Exel Systems next time and probably get honest, helpful advice, pretty much like you did Simon when you bought your system.

[jaykie]

Feel free to use mine Andrew and im sure there will probably be plenty more people offering there pics,

[macmac]

I shall put my name forward as a MOD and nip things like this in the bud early. I shall also be expecting a bit more repect. The ones who can expect deleted posts know who they are. :

Respect, but as an (already sucessful?) business man, who took up window cleaning at a nearly pensionable age, & (in his own words) is too old & knackered to reel a length of microbore in a few times a day. etc.etc What do you expect real people to think? You are the perfect example of total contradiction, who craves false respect!

Real deals.com

[macmac]

Well reminded, they tried to stich you up too ww didn't they.

Thanks Tony
 

No probs, just a reminder. HE HAS a point. Me personaly, I have no problem in leaving ANY company/person nameless if needs be. I.E. crap product or total miss-representaton of product or company. No one would benefit in this industry by a total over-hype of do-gooders who know nothing but crave the 5 minutes of fame that this thread may empower tham with!

God of love!

He doesn’t have a point if he doesn’t own the copyright to the photo, regardless if it is his van and the picture was taken on public land.

Bit like the press really i.e. at public gatherings the press do not stop everybody they have taken a photo of and get written permission.

 

Another idiot who thinks he's more clever than he is : big yawn :

Get real

[Nathanael Jones]

You are correct in that Andrew sold me the system at Adepta over the telephone - if I'd have met him prior to having the system fitted however that may not have been the case.

I have tried ringing him but have not managed to contact him , hence the e-mail.
Everybody checks their e-mails every day so I thought that the best option.

This is a case of improper advertising - if people think thats acceptable then it shows what sort of people they are

Simon when did you send the email? could he be on holiday?
Why didn't you telephone him to sort out your concerns?

I do smell a rat here. Now I presume Andrew was the one who helped and advised you when buying your system from Adapta, so why stab the man in the back over something so trivial.

I've only ever rang PF once and was amazed at the lack of service I got when asking for advice and after all the praise I had read on here about Andrew. It was only later I found out that Andrew McCann had left and I had been speaking to another Andrew at Adapta. So if this is some kind of witch hunt then it hasn't worked for me. I would ring Exel Systems next time and probably get honest, helpful advice, pretty much like you did Simon when you bought your system.

The reason Andrew may not have replied yet is that he could be busy collecting the information needed (IP address, screenshots etc) to aid his case against Simon.
Regardless of the validity of your claims, many comments on this thread could be considered slanderous.
This is not the place to air such comments. Talk to Andrew, sort it out between yourselves.
In the meantime, I'd advise you to delete your posts Simon, as they invite legal action against both yourself and also the owners of this site.

[Pittmonkey]

Glad to see you're still involved in the industry though after all the advice you gave me on start up and even gladder that you have taken my idea on board about offering a days training whilst the system is being installed - that would have been very helpful for a complete novice like I was whilst having mine fitted at Adepta !
 

You are correct in that Andrew sold me the system at Adepta over the telephone - if I'd have met him prior to having the system fitted however that may not have been the case.

So which one is it Simon?

[Simon Brannon]

Thanks for your thoughts Nathanael but there is no "case" against Simon to be brought.
He simply needs to stop falsely advertising the rear of my van, remove the pictures in question and then substitute them with the photo kindly offered by RWC ( Jaykie ) which incidebtally look very professional.

You are correct in that Andrew sold me the system at Adepta over the telephone - if I'd have met him prior to having the system fitted however that may not have been the case.

I have tried ringing him but have not managed to contact him , hence the e-mail.
Everybody checks their e-mails every day so I thought that the best option.

This is a case of improper advertising - if people think thats acceptable then it shows what sort of people they are

Simon when did you send the email? could he be on holiday?
Why didn't you telephone him to sort out your concerns?

I do smell a rat here. Now I presume Andrew was the one who helped and advised you when buying your system from Adapta, so why stab the man in the back over something so trivial.

I've only ever rang PF once and was amazed at the lack of service I got when asking for advice and after all the praise I had read on here about Andrew. It was only later I found out that Andrew McCann had left and I had been speaking to another Andrew at Adapta. So if this is some kind of witch hunt then it hasn't worked for me. I would ring Exel Systems next time and probably get honest, helpful advice, pretty much like you did Simon when you bought your system.

The reason Andrew may not have replied yet is that he could be busy collecting the information needed (IP address, screenshots etc) to aid his case against Simon.
Regardless of the validity of your claims, many comments on this thread could be considered slanderous.
This is not the place to air such comments. Talk to Andrew, sort it out between yourselves.
In the meantime, I'd advise you to delete your posts Simon, as they invite legal action against both yourself and also the owners of this site.

[s.w.c]

someone shut him up its now getting boring, 

[macmac]

Well reminded, they tried to stich you up too ww didn't they.

Thanks Tony
 

No probs, just a reminder. HE HAS a point. Me personaly, I have no problem in leaving ANY company/person nameless if needs be. I.E. crap product or total miss-representaton of product or company. No one would benefit in this industry by a total over-hype of do-gooders who know nothing but crave the 5 minutes of fame that this thread may empower tham with!

God of love!

He doesn’t have a point if he doesn’t own the copyright to the photo, regardless if it is his van and the picture was taken on public land.

Bit like the press really i.e. at public gatherings the press do not stop everybody they have taken a photo of and get written permission.

 

Another idiot who thinks he's more clever than he is : big yawn :

Get real

Obvious you don’t have an answer to that, so you go back to character,  Bigger Yawn

That is the reality. 

Miss-representation of product! read the thread! suppying a lesser product than the one being SHOWN!

I.E (for the thick) I'll show you lamb but sell you mutten! :

[DASERVICES]

Nice to put a face to a name www.pro-pure.co.uk/

Unless a photo is copyrighted then anyone can use it, we all have photos on our sites that are not ours. Let's face it if we put our own faces on we would never get any work

So in answer it is not copyright so all of us can use it. But sorry not taking up the offer

[macmac]

I don't know andrew or simon & as stated, there is TWO sides to every story BUT, if someone showed me a picture of an SL-X & posted me an extender I'd be well pi**ed off!!!!

Tony

[jaykie]

Well i think youd beable to tell the difference between a sl-x and a extender but i couldnt tell you the difference between the the covering on simons and the covering on mine except the colour, think there are certain people on here that will jump on the back of certain members here even if they dont agree with the thread just so they can have a pop. Seems a bit to much all for a photo which Andrew probably didnt even know who it belonged to as it was on his memory card on his camera so probably a genuine mistake.

Chris

[jaykie]

Nice to put a face to a name www.pro-pure.co.uk/

Unless a photo is copyrighted then anyone can use it, we all have photos on our sites that are not ours. Let's face it if we put our own faces on we would never get any work

So in answer it is not copyright so all of us can use it. But sorry not taking up the offer

whose website is that

[macmac]

Miss-representation of product! read the thread! suppying a lesser product than the one being SHOWN!

I.E (for the thick) I'll show you lamb but sell you mutten! :

According to Simon and you, the pair of you think you will be purchasing something else, how stupid can you get

Exel are selling protectakote there’s no mention of it being any thing else but protectakote, but obviously you are confused.

Some people really are thick, and you know I’m right prove me wrong contact trading standards, tell them everything as you understand it to be, see how foolish you will look.


 :

Small man syndrome, spot 'em a mile off

Big'un

[windowwashers]

Well reminded, they tried to stich you up too ww didn't they.

Thanks Tony
 

No probs, just a reminder. HE HAS a point. Me personaly, I have no problem in leaving ANY company/person nameless if needs be. I.E. crap product or total miss-representaton of product or company. No one would benefit in this industry by a total over-hype of do-gooders who know nothing but crave the 5 minutes of fame that this thread may empower tham with!

God of love!

He doesn’t have a point if he doesn’t own the copyright to the photo, regardless if it is his van and the picture was taken on public land.

Bit like the press really i.e. at public gatherings the press do not stop everybody they have taken a photo of and get written permission.

 

Another idiot who thinks he's more clever than he is : big yawn :

Get real

Obvious you don’t have an answer to that, so you go back to character,  Bigger Yawn

That is the reality. 

Miss-representation of product! read the thread! suppying a lesser product than the one being SHOWN!

I.E (for the thick) I'll show you lamb but sell you mutten! :

Is that the same as my now wife saying she was rich when I met her and found that to be not true

[macmac]

My point is NOT the law but passing one product off as another, & just for EWAN it's called MISS-REPRESENTATION!  get it yet? :

It's not right, it may not be- show me a rolls, deliver me a fiesta, BUT, the point is in the title!

[jeff1]

Simon
The reason you have not had a reply from Andrew is he is ill in bed, I have just spoken to his wife, and that's were Andrew is, so you may not get a reply for a few days (my opinion not his wifes)

[Pittmonkey]

While I agree there is a discrepancy regarding the photo and Jaykie just took the words out of my mouth. ( Maybe a genuine mistake ) By airing this on the forum and not clearing the matter up privately, to me shows that there's intent in trying to discredit another person. For what reason? well, I have my suspicions, as do a few others I think.

I'm sorry but I can not believe a phone call has been made and did not get a response. Even if you take into account an answer phone scenario.

"Hi Andrew its Simon Brannon could you please give me a call back on ****** when you get this message, Thanks!!"

The only people who could have known the truth about the photo are Simon, Adapta and Andrew.

No one looking at it on the www would have made the distinction.

[Oakley Windows]

Nice to put a face to a name www.pro-pure.co.uk/

Unless a photo is copyrighted then anyone can use it, we all have photos on our sites that are not ours. Let's face it if we put our own faces on we would never get any work

So in answer it is not copyright so all of us can use it. But sorry not taking up the offer

So its okay to use this picture?




 

[Oakley Windows]

Anyone can edit a picture. Its a different image then.