[s.w.c]

see Jeff first said he smelt a rat, guess Jeff was right, why do people bother, we get them now an again on some of the fishing forums too, so its not just here as-well.

[jaykie]

I dont believe there the same person, but i do have to admit that i smelt a rat from the beginning and wouldnt surprise me if someone has put them upto it or even someone has 2 log in names, but not going to name anyone.

Chris

[Clive McDonald]

But... I don't understand why the mods didn't squash it, to allow people to make unproven defamotory remarks on here could cost admin legal fees.

Maybe a mod hasn't been online, or maybe they're just a bit dim to what the downside could be, but soomer or later this site will get sued.  

[s.w.c]

yea Ive been a member for a while but when i first came on here i was under the impression mods were very st-ricked, so Ive always watched what Ive posted, but this paints a different picture to me.

[Slash]

It's my van,why is everybody so mean to me,why don't they believe me,I am going to tell my mammy

[Simon Brannon]

Slash - ( nice name!! ) the tatty nasty looking van with the system fitted in may well be your van.

However - the silver van with the red SPEEDLINER floor and no system fitted as yet IS mine - MUPPET !!

Please see below a copy of my e-mail to Andrew McCann of Exel systems formerly of Adepta Engineering (  aka Purefreedom - A proper company to deal with and who always provide an excellent service ).
As yet I have had no reply so thought you good people should be warned.......




Dear Andrew McCann
 
 I was a little surprised to find out from Adepta that you had left the company and was even more surprised to come across your website whilst browsing the internet for supplies of parts and resin etc.
 
Glad to see you're still involved in the industry though after all the advice you gave me on start up and even gladder that you have taken my idea on board about offering a days training whilst the system is being installed - that would have been very helpful for a complete novice like I was whilst having mine fitted at Adepta !
 
However, I was EXTREMELY surprised to find a beautiful, new Peugeot Expert van plastered over several of your web pages with its rear doors open wide and ready to receive a system - especially as it is MY van and the picture was taken outside the Adepta site ( you can even see the buildings opposite Adepta on the other side of the road ! ).
 
 
My van is also featured on your van waterproofing page - again EXTREMELY surprising considering that you are advertising a cheap D.I.Y. product called Protecta kote at £79.99 and my van floor has Kevlar re-inforced SPEEDLINER flooring at a cost in excess of £450 !!
 
Kind of makes a mockery of your home page blurb " you can rest assured of our integrity, honesty and down to earth attitude " doesn't it ?
 
Now - I look forward to receiving your comments and proposed next move because whilst I have no real urge to get Trading Standards or Speedliner  themselves involved I think they would be very interested in the blatant mis-representation - don't you ?
 
 
Kind regards,
 
Simon Brannon
 
Propure

Thats not your van you muppet,thats mine,I'm not going to throw my toys out of the pram,I am really pleased he used my van for his website.

[Simon Brannon]

Matt - the reason I haven't been on since is that I took this forums general advice that Andrew would be in touch and I have been waiting for a response.

However there has been no contact from Andrew at all - which was the only reason for joining this forum originally.

Well, lets look at it this way. Simon (Hmm!! Simon. Interesting name. Coincidence?) Came on here ranting and raving like he did and all of a sudden we haven't seen him again.

Has this huge point to prove and all of a sudden he gets up the next day and its not so important to prove.

Oddlier and Oddlier.

Then we have someone else, also a newbie, claiming its his van  Dont tell me he's called Simon too, cos its one hell of a coincidence that he should quite innocently register on here a week before a picture of his own pesonal van surfaces on the worldwide web with someone else claiming its his van.

Someones having a windup cos somethings going on here and it aint window cleaning 

[windowwashers]

Matt - the reason I haven't been on since is that I took this forums general advice that Andrew would be in touch and I have been waiting for a response.

However there has been no contact from Andrew at all - which was the only reason for joining this forum originally.

Well, lets look at it this way. Simon (Hmm!! Simon. Interesting name. Coincidence?) Came on here ranting and raving like he did and all of a sudden we haven't seen him again.

Has this huge point to prove and all of a sudden he gets up the next day and its not so important to prove.

Oddlier and Oddlier.

Then we have someone else, also a newbie, claiming its his van  Dont tell me he's called Simon too, cos its one hell of a coincidence that he should quite innocently register on here a week before a picture of his own pesonal van surfaces on the worldwide web with someone else claiming its his van.

Someones having a windup cos somethings going on here and it aint window cleaning 

Andrew is in Hospital this maybe why you have not got a reply.

Ian

[Bobs Window Cleaning]

Simon

I have read your post and like many others, kept shtum. Can you explain to me WHY the other van with the system fitted is tatty.

It look very proffesional to me.

[Slash]

Slash - ( nice name!! ) the tatty nasty looking van with the system fitted in may well be your van.

However - the silver van with the red SPEEDLINER floor and no system fitted as yet IS mine - MUPPET !!

Please see below a copy of my e-mail to Andrew McCann of Exel systems formerly of Adepta Engineering (  aka Purefreedom - A proper company to deal with and who always provide an excellent service ).
As yet I have had no reply so thought you good people should be warned.......




Dear Andrew McCann
 
 I was a little surprised to find out from Adepta that you had left the company and was even more surprised to come across your website whilst browsing the internet for supplies of parts and resin etc.
 
Glad to see you're still involved in the industry though after all the advice you gave me on start up and even gladder that you have taken my idea on board about offering a days training whilst the system is being installed - that would have been very helpful for a complete novice like I was whilst having mine fitted at Adepta !
 
However, I was EXTREMELY surprised to find a beautiful, new Peugeot Expert van plastered over several of your web pages with its rear doors open wide and ready to receive a system - especially as it is MY van and the picture was taken outside the Adepta site ( you can even see the buildings opposite Adepta on the other side of the road ! ).
 
 
My van is also featured on your van waterproofing page - again EXTREMELY surprising considering that you are advertising a cheap D.I.Y. product called Protecta kote at £79.99 and my van floor has Kevlar re-inforced SPEEDLINER flooring at a cost in excess of £450 !!
 
Kind of makes a mockery of your home page blurb " you can rest assured of our integrity, honesty and down to earth attitude " doesn't it ?
 
Now - I look forward to receiving your comments and proposed next move because whilst I have no real urge to get Trading Standards or Speedliner  themselves involved I think they would be very interested in the blatant mis-representation - don't you ?
 
 
Kind regards,
 
Simon Brannon
 
Propure

Thats not your van you muppet,thats mine,I'm not going to throw my toys out of the pram,I am really pleased he used my van for his website.

EEERRRRRRR.....................NO IT AINT,THE SILVER VAN IS MINE PRIOR TO BEING FITTED,GET OVER IT,I CAN SEE MY CHELSEA BANNER IN THE FRONT...................DOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHH

[Clive McDonald]

Slash put a pic of van up to shut this idiot up.

[Pittmonkey]

Now this could be very interesting!!!

If indeed this pic is of Slash's van then Clive's earlier post were spot on. There was no proof in the photo the van was Simon's and if this can now be proved I think we could be looking at PORPER not PROPURE.

Go on Slash show us a pic you know you want to!!

[Simon Brannon]

Sorry to hear that Andrew is in hospital - whats the problem?

Matt - the reason I haven't been on since is that I took this forums general advice that Andrew would be in touch and I have been waiting for a response.

However there has been no contact from Andrew at all - which was the only reason for joining this forum originally.

Well, lets look at it this way. Simon (Hmm!! Simon. Interesting name. Coincidence?) Came on here ranting and raving like he did and all of a sudden we haven't seen him again.

Has this huge point to prove and all of a sudden he gets up the next day and its not so important to prove.

Oddlier and Oddlier.

Then we have someone else, also a newbie, claiming its his van  Dont tell me he's called Simon too, cos its one hell of a coincidence that he should quite innocently register on here a week before a picture of his own pesonal van surfaces on the worldwide web with someone else claiming its his van.

Someones having a windup cos somethings going on here and it aint window cleaning 

Andrew is in Hospital this maybe why you have not got a reply.

Ian

[Simon Brannon]

Yes please slash - show us a picture of your van with the chelsea banner in it

Slash put a pic of van up to shut this idiot up.

[Bobs Window Cleaning]

SO SIMON
Why is the other van tatty and nasty.....its my van and i can asure you it aint tatty.

Cmon geez....explain

[Simon Brannon]

I was having a go back at some person called slash who has obviously been put up to try and discredit the fact that the van I'm talking about is mine !

No offence was intended to any one else and if Andrew is in hospital then I shall look forward to him taking it off the website as soon as he has made a full recovery.

SO SIMON
Why is the other van tatty and nasty.....its my van and i can asure you it aint tatty.

Cmon geez....explain

[Bobs Window Cleaning]

When Andrew asked me if he could use my van photo on his website, he asked me to email him saying he could use my photos for any purpose, ie website.

I would be very surprised if he then used another persons photo on his site without permission .

Lets face it, the/your photo aint really advertising much, is it?  Its just a photo of a van with waterproof protection (protectakote or speedlining). Im sure he could have used many a van which he has fitted systems in.

Bob

[Simon Brannon]

Bob - the point is he didn't use any of the " lots of other photos" he could have!
He's used mine which was done by speedliner and then had the system installed by Adepta Engineering - so nothing to do with Exel systems - see?

It's mis representation all round - simple - end of story.

When Andrew asked me if he could use my van photo on his website, he asked me to email him saying he could use my photos for any purpose, ie website.

I would be very surprised if he then used another persons photo on his site without permission .

Lets face it, the/your photo aint really advertising much, is it?  Its just a photo of a van with waterproof protection (protectakote or speedlining). Im sure he could have used many a van which he has fitted systems in.

Bob

[Bobs Window Cleaning]

unless we see that chelsea banner

[Simon Brannon]

The van is mine Bob - I hand fitted and painted in the flooring grey all the protective internal panels !

Through the windscreen of the sais picture you can see the offices opposite Adepta where the van was fitted out

unless we see that chelsea banner