[NWH]

If he was in the highland games he`d win gold for being the best tosser lol.

[Simon Brannon]

I dont blame you for being sceptical but its quite simple - you could easily speak to the company that fitted my system - Adepta Engineering in Grimsby.
The photo was taken outside their premises and if you think that falsely advertising a DIY product is ok then you're sadly mistaken.

For want of a better word tosh that is complete tosh. These allegations are un proven and possibly defamatory. How do you know that 'Simon Brannon' really exists? that images are of a van he owns? or that anything he says is true?

The only thing you do know about him is that he has taken the opportunity to use his very first post to hurl unpleasant accusations against a well known industry personality and member of this forum.

When you were forces i bet you were a right little hitler, judge and jury. You may think this a good thread to stir up, be are talking about someones goodname and business.

[paulscotney]

When I rang him last year, he quoted £2500 to £3000 for my system fitted and 2 or 3 weeks.
I thought oh well probably a month and nearer £3000.. But no, it was 2 weeks.

  I went to Grimsby he added on a few extras,I even tried to buy other items but he said I didn't need them , "I don't want to take anymore from you". He could have easily said £3000 but he said £2500.
I was very pleased and found him to be totally honest.

[Steve CM]

i don't see an issue really. we all know his good name. I think i'm right in saying he took the idea of WFP to adepta so to use a picture outside their premises is no biggy.

maybe adepta are feeling the pinch with out mccan and now they have a mole on here trying to wreck his good name...who knows...the web can be a nasty place?!!?

[Tosh]

For want of a better word tosh that is complete tosh. These allegations are un proven and possibly defamatory. How do you know that 'Simon Brannon' really exists? that images are of a van he owns? or that anything he says is true?

The only thing you do know about him is that he has taken the opportunity to use his very first post to hurl unpleasant accusations against a well known industry personality and member of this forum.

When you were forces i bet you were a right little hitler, judge and jury. You may think this a good thread to stir up, be are talking about someones goodname and business.

Well, lets see what Andrew McCan says!?  If he'll comment?

I've known Andrew from the forums for probably years longer than most of you; he started window cleaning about the same time as myself; and over the years I've formed my own opinion of him, which may differ from your own.

I could elucidate, but this is not the place; as you say.

As as for my management style in the forces, I always ran a happy ship, and if I had a fault, I was probably too soft!

[paulscotney]

What were in. The R.E.?   My dad was a Staff Sgt in them in the war. I think  not a lot of regts have Staff sgts

[Simon Brannon]

Thats a trifle cynical Steve - all I want is for Andrew to remove the pictures of my van and then use genuine pictures of Protecta kote on the waterproofing page.

His web page bleats on about Integrity, honesty etc!!
Live by the sword then die by the sword - Be honest

i don't see an issue really. we all know his good name. I think i'm right in saying he took the idea of WFP to adepta so to use a picture outside their premises is no biggy.

maybe adepta are feeling the pinch with out mccan and now they have a mole on here trying to wreck his good name...who knows...the web can be a nasty place?!!?

[Clive McDonald]

I've seen you bully squeaks on here. You ran that tag of his about pulling birds for weeks even though it was clear he didn't find it funny. A bit of rank gives you a lot of power over people, your laugh is someone else's nightmare.


What gives us, me or you, the right to judge Andrew? It's none of our business. If the so called allegations are true then I should imagine he will say -sorry i made a mistake-. I don't think the crime is heinous anyway. Simon should get a life.

Things a bit quiet at adepta are they since Andrew left?

[Simon Brannon]

Another window cleaner gave me this site address -

You're right Luke - this isn't the place to deal with this but as Andrew has chosen to ignore my e- mail what else can you do?

Question, how did you know he was a member of this forum, if you did know that is?

[windowwashers]

Thats a trifle cynical Steve - all I want is for Andrew to remove the pictures of my van and then use genuine pictures of Protecta kote on the waterproofing page.

His web page bleats on about Integrity, honesty etc!!
Live by the sword then die by the sword - Be honest

i don't see an issue really. we all know his good name. I think i'm right in saying he took the idea of WFP to adepta so to use a picture outside their premises is no biggy.

maybe adepta are feeling the pinch with out mccan and now they have a mole on here trying to wreck his good name...who knows...the web can be a nasty place?!!?

I will send Andrew some pics of Protecta kote if he does not have any, I will also allow him to use pics of my new van that he will be fitting out to go on his website, I guess when he reads this yours will come off anyway.

Little sad that you thought it a good idea to post this on a public forum when you could have called him direct as hes only to pleased to speak to people.

I am getting training when I go up there  

Ian

I for one do trust Andrew it what he says and another good thing he also listens

[Clive McDonald]

What van and system did you settle on ww?

[windowwashers]

What van and system did you settle on ww?

I got a transit 300 and another 650L 2 man set up

[macmac]

Guys,

I kinda agree with Simon!  Now I've never been a fan of Andrew McCann; he seemed so nice, yet when you dug beneath the surface there were plenty of unhappy customers and he seemed to bleed this site for all he could.  It's all well and good to come across as a 'really nice guy', especially when you've something to gain from it.

And Simon has made a very basic statement.  If Andrew is as good as what he says; why should he use a photo from someone else; when he could use a picture from a job he's done himself; particularly when that photo is from a top £450 speedlining job and not a cheaper DIY job.

And this is also exactly the right place to deal with this sort of issue!  People who use this forum to advertise - as Andrew has done - do so at their own peril.

I do hope this posts remains here until Andrew replies.

Agreed, & it doesn't matter wether Simon is a newbie or not!! He has a GENUINE point. What if I started selling websites for window cleaners & took all my info & pics from windowashers site?
However, there is two sides to every story & so we'll await Andrew's reply.


Tony

[clean]

I've seen you bully squeaks on here. You ran that tag of his about pulling birds for weeks even though it was clear he didn't find it funny. A bit of rank gives you a lot of power over people, your laugh is someone else's nightmare.


What gives us, me or you, the right to judge Andrew? It's none of our business. If the so called allegations are true then I should imagine he will say -sorry i made a mistake-. I don't think the crime is heinous anyway. Simon should get a life.

Things a bit quiet at adepta are they since Andrew left?

No disrespect dude but your knowlage about wfp & the industry is about a nats bollock above zero!

Respect

Tony

lol that was a little harsh dont you think 

Well he has got a bit of a reputation for it 

[Clive McDonald]

Well reminded, they tried to stich you up too ww didn't they.

Thanks Tony
 

[Pittmonkey]

Simon when did you send the email? could he be on holiday?
Why didn't you telephone him to sort out your concerns?

I do smell a rat here. Now I presume Andrew was the one who helped and advised you when buying your system from Adapta, so why stab the man in the back over something so trivial.

I've only ever rang PF once and was amazed at the lack of service I got when asking for advice and after all the praise I had read on here about Andrew. It was only later I found out that Andrew McCann had left and I had been speaking to another Andrew at Adapta. So if this is some kind of witch hunt then it hasn't worked for me. I would ring Exel Systems next time and probably get honest, helpful advice, pretty much like you did Simon when you bought your system.

[windowwashers]

Well reminded, they tried to stich you up too ww didn't they.

Thanks Tony
 

some did and still try  :

Pittmonkey, I have to say I have never had a problem with purefreedom, they are always willing to help even after Andrew left I still speak to them from time to time. As I do Andrew

[Pittmonkey]

I can only speak of my own experiences Ian

[macmac]

Well reminded, they tried to stich you up too ww didn't they.

Thanks Tony
 

No probs, just a reminder. HE HAS a point. Me personaly, I have no problem in leaving ANY company/person nameless if needs be. I.E. crap product or total miss-representaton of product or company. No one would benefit in this industry by a total over-hype of do-gooders who know nothing but crave the 5 minutes of fame that this thread may empower tham with!

God of love!

[Clive McDonald]

I shall put my name forward as a MOD and nip things like this in the bud early. I shall also be expecting a bit more repect. The ones who can expect deleted posts know who they are. :