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Sir Squeaky

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Re: There's more to life than window cleaning
« Reply #81 on: April 26, 2008, 09:17:09 pm »
You will feel intimidated if you've ruined someone's livelihood, and they know it was you.

Do you really think they're not going to go looking for revenge? ::)

TennetClean

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Re: There's more to life than window cleaning
« Reply #82 on: April 26, 2008, 09:18:15 pm »
From that very link :

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These Regulations do not ban ladders but say they should be used only when all other safer alternatives for work at height have been ruled out.

Which is exactly what I have been saying.

If you dont believe me then believe the head honcho of the HSE !! LOL
My friends call me Tuppence Clean

*foxman

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Re: There's more to life than window cleaning
« Reply #83 on: April 26, 2008, 09:29:35 pm »
so let me get this right, you are saying that window cleaning from ladders is NOT "work at height?"

No, I'm not.  Of course using ladders is working at height, but by saying all 'ladders are banned because you can use water fed pole' is misinterpreting the working at height regulations.  As you use the ladder for such a short amount of time the risk is acceptable as long as you use it safely.

Also using WFP in a drought is not against the law, or can you show me somewhere that says it is?

www.defra.gov.uk/environment/water/resources/drought/pdf/droughtdirection1991.pdf

That wasn't the point of what I was saying, just an example.

Sir Squeaky

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Re: There's more to life than window cleaning
« Reply #84 on: April 26, 2008, 09:50:00 pm »
From that very link :

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These Regulations do not ban ladders but say they should be used only when all other safer alternatives for work at height have been ruled out.

Which is exactly what I have been saying.

If you dont believe me then believe the head honcho of the HSE !! LOL

If that's the case I'm ruling out other safer alternatives because:-

I don't like water fed pole systems
I'm crap with a telescopic pole and squeegee

So ladders will have to do then.  Completely within the law.
If you don't own a wfp system, then you are doing it by the safest means possible. ;)

Tell him to swivel.

*foxman

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Re: There's more to life than window cleaning
« Reply #85 on: April 26, 2008, 09:52:19 pm »
Exactly.

AuRavelling79

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Re: There's more to life than window cleaning
« Reply #86 on: April 26, 2008, 09:58:06 pm »
I'd love Tennet clean to report a ladder user (for window cleaning). Then he will tell us what the health and safety folk do about it.

Do it Tennet ... I'd love to hear the response, and whatever it is it will do us all a service so we can know what to expect.

BTW, if you live in Coventry and want to use ladders away from Tennet's eagle eyes just work on council estates because he never goes on them! ;D ;D ;D
It's a game of three halves!

Moderator David@stives

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Re: There's more to life than window cleaning
« Reply #87 on: April 26, 2008, 10:09:53 pm »
Myth: HSE has banned stepladders
April 2007The reality
We have not banned stepladders - nor have we banned ladders! Despite this, the allegation is regularly repeated and some firms have fallen for the myth and acted upon it.

For straightforward, short duration work stepladders and ladders can be a good option, but you wouldn’t want to be wobbling about on them doing complex tasks for long periods. A large number of workers are seriously injured or killed using ladders and stepladders each year. So:

Yes – we want people to use the right equipment for the job.
Yes – there are some common-sense rules for using them safely.
But no – we have not banned them!


www.hse.gov.uk/myth/april.htm

jonah

Re: There's more to life than window cleaning
« Reply #88 on: April 26, 2008, 10:11:59 pm »
I'd love Tennet clean to report a ladder user (for window cleaning). Then he will tell us what the health and safety folk do about it.

Do it Tennet ... I'd love to hear the response, and whatever it is it will do us all a service so we can know what to expect.

BTW, if you live in Coventry and want to use ladders away from Tennet's eagle eyes just work on council estates because he never goes on them! ;D ;D ;D
Best post of the night LOL

xxmattyxx

Re: There's more to life than window cleaning
« Reply #89 on: April 26, 2008, 10:16:48 pm »
Him, put his money where his mouth is?

I hope you're having a laugh, he's all mouth. Theres no way he'll follow it up.

peter holley

Re: There's more to life than window cleaning
« Reply #90 on: April 26, 2008, 10:17:51 pm »
well personally .. i like a nice packet of roast beef monster munch.....i can eat them more now i dot have to clim up and down ladders.... ;D  

mr D

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Re: There's more to life than window cleaning
« Reply #91 on: April 26, 2008, 10:29:34 pm »
oh my god!

i truely cant belive you guys are entertaining this plank on a saturday. he is perpously causing an argument because he has no other life to be getting on with. cant you see??

it is so simple, let him report as many w/c using ladders as he wants. i give it a day before the HSE investergates his business and operating procdurs for wasting there time.

THERE IS NO LAW!!!

HSE lay down guide lines, these are to be followed to insure a safe working enviroment. they are not law. the guide lines say where possable use alternitive methods to do work at height. well there is the 'its accessing hight not working at height' argument then theres the 'wfp dont clean windows because thy are left unclean and not dont to a required standard' argument.

i'm gonna do this, i'm gonna do that blar blar blar..

hes a plum.

look in when the goverment bring in there new 'green law's' preventing any one using exess water. it is already law that any new property is fitted with a water meter that the water board can moneter if you are using to much water. by 2012 every house will be fitted with one as part of the H.I.P.S.

was it bob dillion that said...''and a times they are a changing''.

peter holley

Re: There's more to life than window cleaning
« Reply #92 on: April 26, 2008, 10:44:57 pm »
well personally .. i like a nice packet of roast beef monster munch.....i can eat them more now i dot have to clim up and down ladders.... ;D  

i also like walkers cheese and onion....but only on special occasions :)

L.J.Thorpe

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Re: There's more to life than window cleaning
« Reply #93 on: April 26, 2008, 10:47:05 pm »
ah
HE IS A TROLL ;D ;D ;D
i get it now
sorry tennet i thought you actually WERE serious
did not realise that you are a wind up boy
fair do i fell for your crappy wind up ;D
very good
over and out ;)

mr D

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Re: There's more to life than window cleaning
« Reply #94 on: April 26, 2008, 10:54:10 pm »
i like apples i eat them while i'm climbing ladders. i dont get FAT because there healthy and i'm keeping my heart rate between 135 and 145 bpm keeping me in the fat opptermen fat burning zone. hence why i look great and pick up work from chicks managing maintance account for office blocks and resadentral premmasis. fat old boys dont stand a chance when i tender!! 8) 8) ;D ;D

jonah

Re: There's more to life than window cleaning
« Reply #95 on: April 26, 2008, 10:57:41 pm »
ah
HE IS A TROLL ;D ;D ;D
i get it now
sorry tennet i thought you actually WERE serious
did not realise that you are a wind up boy
fair do i fell for your crappy wind up ;D
very good
over and out ;)
Nr thorpe you need to listen to andrea bocelli ( album vivele best of ) and then post . . . . . ;D

L.J.Thorpe

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Re: There's more to life than window cleaning
« Reply #96 on: April 26, 2008, 11:01:33 pm »
who is andrea brocolli ???

jonah

Re: There's more to life than window cleaning
« Reply #97 on: April 26, 2008, 11:04:58 pm »
He is an opera singer who is blind , but when you listen to his voice ......well you are transported to a happy place .  Whenever I am down i stick on his cd and everything in your life is ok  ;D

L.J.Thorpe

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Re: There's more to life than window cleaning
« Reply #98 on: April 26, 2008, 11:08:03 pm »
got it now ;D
googled him
i already have most of the tracks on that cd
just done by other people ;D

mr D

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Re: There's more to life than window cleaning
« Reply #99 on: April 26, 2008, 11:11:13 pm »
cathrin jenkins. mmmmmm

class and arse.  :P