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Dry Clean

  • Posts: 2919
Re: Hot water again
« Reply #80 on: August 16, 2019, 11:01:45 am »
I must be the only diesel user that didnít get slated there  ;D

Dry clean , you say you used hot , did you not even see a benefit on first cleans , you know , the grotty green ones ?

Course not!

Sean only needs 100 litres of pure water a day, out the back of a car, cold water, one brush to do everything, and a fibreglass pole to reach perfect standards of cleaning, he has 5 star reviews and his customers give him cups of tea at the start, middle, and end of each job he does.

Heís what we all aspire to be. We just havenít realised it yet.

 ;D

Iv had a new van and ready build system from day one,  I could have done it a lot cheaper but for me it was mony well spent, like you Iv also wasted money on nonsense, a Dragonfly indoor kit and an overpriced  £2k gutter vac complete with 48feet worth of alloy poles to name but a few, but unlike you I learn from my mistakes.
Explain again, if Vision was doing what hot can do why do you now need hot ?

You say that.........but Iíve never seen a picture of your set up, or a picture/video of you working like many of us on here have shown. You offer nothing of any contribution or help on here.  Care to prove me wrong?

Your just a troll Sean, who likes to constantly try to prove that your way is the best way, and your working at maximum efficiency and anyone else who tries to make improvements are stupid because they do things different to you.

Have you seen how many hot water setups grippatank are doing these days? They can hardly keep up with the demand. that should say it all
Really. Having hot water isnít some kind of elite setup, itís very affordable, when you consider itís going to last you 10 plus years if you look after it.

When did I say vision additive replaced hot water use? I still Use Vision additive to this day, I just use a tweaked version that suits my needs better and to work along with the hot water. Iíve no invested interest  in vision anymore, Kempy took it all on, and is doing very well from it with many happy customers.

Sorry for the ďrantĒ sounding post, but from
Time to time all the other newbies on the forum need to see you for what you are.

Its a shame you push many away from
this forum with your constant need for drama though.

Dry your eyes Jonny, you wibbled on about Vision doing much the same as you now claim to be getting from hot, so I will ask you again, why does Vision no longer make you quicker, the work easier, deep clean the windows and give the superior results needed  ? the joke is you havent even got the sense to know you cant justify using both.



dazmond

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Re: Hot water again
« Reply #81 on: August 16, 2019, 11:39:44 am »
ive ordered a WE USE THE GRIPPATANK HOT WATER SYSTEM sticker when ordering some pole clamp fittings...... ;D

ive got one for you sean too,can you send me your address so i can post it to you?

thanks..... ;D
price higher/work harder!

Jonny 87

  • Posts: 2929
Re: Hot water again
« Reply #82 on: August 16, 2019, 11:46:26 am »
I must be the only diesel user that didnít get slated there  ;D

Dry clean , you say you used hot , did you not even see a benefit on first cleans , you know , the grotty green ones ?

Course not!

Sean only needs 100 litres of pure water a day, out the back of a car, cold water, one brush to do everything, and a fibreglass pole to reach perfect standards of cleaning, he has 5 star reviews and his customers give him cups of tea at the start, middle, and end of each job he does.

Heís what we all aspire to be. We just havenít realised it yet.

 ;D

Iv had a new van and ready build system from day one,  I could have done it a lot cheaper but for me it was mony well spent, like you Iv also wasted money on nonsense, a Dragonfly indoor kit and an overpriced  £2k gutter vac complete with 48feet worth of alloy poles to name but a few, but unlike you I learn from my mistakes.
Explain again, if Vision was doing what hot can do why do you now need hot ?

You say that.........but Iíve never seen a picture of your set up, or a picture/video of you working like many of us on here have shown. You offer nothing of any contribution or help on here.  Care to prove me wrong?

Your just a troll Sean, who likes to constantly try to prove that your way is the best way, and your working at maximum efficiency and anyone else who tries to make improvements are stupid because they do things different to you.

Have you seen how many hot water setups grippatank are doing these days? They can hardly keep up with the demand. that should say it all
Really. Having hot water isnít some kind of elite setup, itís very affordable, when you consider itís going to last you 10 plus years if you look after it.

When did I say vision additive replaced hot water use? I still Use Vision additive to this day, I just use a tweaked version that suits my needs better and to work along with the hot water. Iíve no invested interest  in vision anymore, Kempy took it all on, and is doing very well from it with many happy customers.

Sorry for the ďrantĒ sounding post, but from
Time to time all the other newbies on the forum need to see you for what you are.

Its a shame you push many away from
this forum with your constant need for drama though.

Dry your eyes Jonny, you wibbled on about Vision doing much the same as you now claim to be getting from hot, so I will ask you again, why does Vision no longer make you quicker, the work easier, deep clean the windows and give the superior results needed  ? the joke is you havent even got the sense to know you cant justify using both.

What makes you think the marginal benefits of hot water and an additive arenít worth it?

I absolutely believe there is benefits to additives, and I absolutely believe there is benefits to hot water.

Why would hot water negate the benefits of additives? Surely combining the two is the ultimate.

The speed that I can clean at, and the results I get have increased since using both, I regularly do internal cleaning, and I get to check my results. If you fly around a property can you guarantee thereís no pollen spots, a remnant of a snail, or a bird mess that hasnít completely gone?

I can work as fast as possible, and also guarantee that my work is as close to perfect as you can get.

So for me...... there are benefits of both.

Iíve no doubt you possibly can clean at the same speed as me, but I do guarantee that your quality wouldnít be as good. Thatís been my experience on my work.

The fact you donít get complaints isnít an argument, customers might not complain over a few marks here and there, but they certainly notice.

Anyway, Iím done talking to you now, its never productive and I really should learn. I just hope that some of the newbies donít fall for your dribble, or that some of the guys on here who want to improve donít listen to your constant ďnay sayingĒ.
Vision Technician / Visual Engineer /  Vision Enhancement Operative /...........................................................OnlyUseMeWFP AkA Jonny the Windy Wesher

Tristan R Clean

  • Posts: 245
Re: Hot water again
« Reply #83 on: August 16, 2019, 01:17:38 pm »
I think one consideration is - putting the extra costs of a professionally installed diesel heater on to a customers price. Then educating them to the benefits of having their windows cleaned with hot rather than cold.
I think most of us would admit they would go hot straight away if they could do this.

Tris

nathankaye

  • Posts: 4507
Re: Hot water again
« Reply #84 on: August 16, 2019, 01:23:22 pm »
I've had a couple of customers feel the need to pick up my house and help move it and they often remark/ask if I use hot water. I explain I do and that it cleans better.  they've all been impressed?
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Dry Clean

  • Posts: 2919
Re: Hot water again
« Reply #85 on: August 16, 2019, 02:11:25 pm »
I must be the only diesel user that didnít get slated there  ;D

Dry clean , you say you used hot , did you not even see a benefit on first cleans , you know , the grotty green ones ?

Course not!

Sean only needs 100 litres of pure water a day, out the back of a car, cold water, one brush to do everything, and a fibreglass pole to reach perfect standards of cleaning, he has 5 star reviews and his customers give him cups of tea at the start, middle, and end of each job he does.

Heís what we all aspire to be. We just havenít realised it yet.

 ;D

Iv had a new van and ready build system from day one,  I could have done it a lot cheaper but for me it was mony well spent, like you Iv also wasted money on nonsense, a Dragonfly indoor kit and an overpriced  £2k gutter vac complete with 48feet worth of alloy poles to name but a few, but unlike you I learn from my mistakes.
Explain again, if Vision was doing what hot can do why do you now need hot ?

You say that.........but Iíve never seen a picture of your set up, or a picture/video of you working like many of us on here have shown. You offer nothing of any contribution or help on here.  Care to prove me wrong?

Your just a troll Sean, who likes to constantly try to prove that your way is the best way, and your working at maximum efficiency and anyone else who tries to make improvements are stupid because they do things different to you.

Have you seen how many hot water setups grippatank are doing these days? They can hardly keep up with the demand. that should say it all
Really. Having hot water isnít some kind of elite setup, itís very affordable, when you consider itís going to last you 10 plus years if you look after it.

When did I say vision additive replaced hot water use? I still Use Vision additive to this day, I just use a tweaked version that suits my needs better and to work along with the hot water. Iíve no invested interest  in vision anymore, Kempy took it all on, and is doing very well from it with many happy customers.

Sorry for the ďrantĒ sounding post, but from
Time to time all the other newbies on the forum need to see you for what you are.

Its a shame you push many away from
this forum with your constant need for drama though.

Dry your eyes Jonny, you wibbled on about Vision doing much the same as you now claim to be getting from hot, so I will ask you again, why does Vision no longer make you quicker, the work easier, deep clean the windows and give the superior results needed  ? the joke is you havent even got the sense to know you cant justify using both.

What makes you think the marginal benefits of hot water and an additive arenít worth it?

I absolutely believe there is benefits to additives, and I absolutely believe there is benefits to hot water.

Why would hot water negate the benefits of additives? Surely combining the two is the ultimate.

The speed that I can clean at, and the results I get have increased since using both, I regularly do internal cleaning, and I get to check my results. If you fly around a property can you guarantee thereís no pollen spots, a remnant of a snail, or a bird mess that hasnít completely gone?

I can work as fast as possible, and also guarantee that my work is as close to perfect as you can get.

So for me...... there are benefits of both.

Iíve no doubt you possibly can clean at the same speed as me, but I do guarantee that your quality wouldnít be as good. Thatís been my experience on my work.

The fact you donít get complaints isnít an argument, customers might not complain over a few marks here and there, but they certainly notice.

Anyway, Iím done talking to you now, its never productive and I really should learn. I just hope that some of the newbies donít fall for your dribble, or that some of the guys on here who want to improve donít listen to your constant ďnay sayingĒ.
Jonny I got all this same quality rubbish back in the day from trad guys who couldn't get their heads round the fact that water on it own could clean a window to perfection  , Vision, hot and I can guarantee once the next snake oil comes along it will be third on your list and  even then it still wont be enough, at the end of the day there are enough idiots in this game without allowing guys like you to make more.

dazmond

  • Posts: 17930
Re: Hot water again
« Reply #86 on: August 16, 2019, 02:18:22 pm »
the other week i had a customer who had their conny demolished but the windows/frames doors round the back were covered in concrete splatter......the hot water REMOVED ALL OF IT.....after a few scrubs and a good soak.....no way would cold water do it!!

ive also had dried on egg on windows that have come off with hot water too in the past....not a chance with cold water!
price higher/work harder!

nathankaye

  • Posts: 4507
Re: Hot water again
« Reply #87 on: August 16, 2019, 02:27:54 pm »
the other week i had a customer who had their conny demolished but the windows/frames doors round the back were covered in concrete splatter......the hot water REMOVED ALL OF IT.....after a few scrubs and a good soak.....no way would cold water do it!!

ive also had dried on egg on windows that have come off with hot water too in the past....not a chance with cold water!

they dont like to know that hot water helps remove concrete splatter......they are still in denial that hot water actually works better than cold and better than trad.   
let's just  ;D and leave them to think that cold water is still great 👍
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Dry Clean

  • Posts: 2919
Re: Hot water again
« Reply #88 on: August 16, 2019, 02:36:25 pm »
the other week i had a customer who had their conny demolished but the windows/frames doors round the back were covered in concrete splatter......the hot water REMOVED ALL OF IT.....after a few scrubs and a good soak.....no way would cold water do it!!

ive also had dried on egg on windows that have come off with hot water too in the past....not a chance with cold water!

they dont like to know that hot water helps remove concrete splatter......they are still in denial that hot water actually works better than cold and better than trad.   
let's just  ;D and leave them to think that cold water is still great 👍

My poor simple lads, old dried concrete rubble/dust doesn't stick to windows the way a fresh batch would, its would take a heavy duty chemical to get that off.

nathankaye

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Re: Hot water again
« Reply #89 on: August 16, 2019, 03:50:25 pm »
ok Sean  ;D ;D ;D
👍👍
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P @ F

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Re: Hot water again
« Reply #90 on: August 16, 2019, 04:30:17 pm »
Hot water is pants , thatís why I am just in the middle of building another heater  ;D
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

P @ F

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Re: Hot water again
« Reply #91 on: August 16, 2019, 04:56:36 pm »
All done and ready for the latest heat exchanger to be fixed on !

I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

escorttdi

  • Posts: 229
Re: Hot water again
« Reply #92 on: August 16, 2019, 05:01:05 pm »
whens it for sale

P @ F

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Re: Hot water again
« Reply #93 on: August 16, 2019, 05:09:20 pm »
whens it for sale

Not quite ready yet , it all depends on how the heat exchanger performs , then I need to source a cabinet to mount it all in .
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

nathankaye

  • Posts: 4507
Re: Hot water again
« Reply #94 on: August 16, 2019, 06:09:51 pm »
get a move on then rich, were all waiting  ;D ;D
with having all these days off due to it raining, you should be knocking these out  ;D
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