[cleaning4usussex]

Hi I'm getting my first system and have 6k to invest which system is better grippatank or xline??
Jamie

[NWH]

Grippa imo just make sure you get a hot one,if not build it yourself for under a £1000

[Tony dunmall]

Grippa

[Smurf]

Spending that sort of dosh to be able to wave a stick and splash water about seems crazy to me 

First of all you need to find out the tds reading of the tap water you are going to use to find out if you need a ro/di or di only to make pure. Then depending what your tds tap water reading is if you want to produce pure using a static ro/di or mounted in a van.

If you can produce pure at home then all you would need is  a very basic setup in a van as follows:
Tank
Pump box or separate pump & controller
Leisure battery, Charger, Split relay.
Hose reel
Whatever gardiner poles you require etc

[Scrimble]

I would invest 1-1.5k into a wfp set up and the rest into gaining customers

if this is your first and you are just starting out its far more important to get customers otherwise your new van and wfp system is going to sit on your driveway

[cleaning4usussex]

I have my flyers done, website is being updated to include window cleaning and my van sign written I all ready have omnipole guttervac, 21 ltr pressure washer etc just want to invest in commercial grade equipment that will hopefully last a long time if looked after, Jamie

[NWH]

I don't care what anyone says it does take. time to use WFP it ain't just splashing water around if you want constant good results,I would go out and learn a lot of the pitfalls first or you'll lose what work you do get. Sometimes they look lovely from the ground you have to develop a instinct for it to know you've got em good.

[Smurf]

Sounds like you are not going to have much space left in the back of the van to fit a decent size wfp system in 
What size system are you looking to fit in your van? What van do you have and what is the max payload?

[jk999]

£4500 grand trying to get customers  what you doing bribery wow 

[jk999]

I certainly wouldn't spend six grand on a set up especially if your not cleaning windows yet I would go out on job with someone 1st try n learn the ropes then get your set up but depends on how many would be cleaning in think 2to3 grand would get you something decent .get a custom made tank fitted then buy the other gear yourself. I have just ordered a tank 700 ltr and got it made to my specs cost is 700 for tank but this includes him fitting it in the van and fitting all my gear in like pumps batteries hose reals ect

[duncan h]

DIY mate . Save thousands

[cleaning4usussex]

       To smurf                   650 grippatank full ro, up against bulk head in a swb transit filters moved to side loading door side, I will put a floor above so guttervac leads, flat surface cleaner can go on top then on back end pressure washer,or generator as when nreded. That's the plan hopefully , Jamie

[jk999]

What's it costing for that

[cleaning4usussex]

I already have the gutter vac and pressure washing stuff so it's £6000 for system, alterations of filters, booster pump, charger, fitting, vat and xtreme 35 pole plus pole rack

[jk999]

Wow 6000

[C & S]

Don't spunk 6k that's for the pro outfits not a starter.
It's slow to start will take you a while to build up doesn't come as fast as you hope.

Many windiest start and sell up 6 months down the line.

1.  A RO system (in shed or garage etc) cost about 500)
2. Custom van system ( tank £300, hosereel and hose £100, pump and controller with battery £150, pole get a 30ft to start a decent ish one £400.
3. Practice,  trad and wfp on your own house, family and friends until your hands bleed.
4. Get some leaflets done, don't order 10,000 to Start!!!!!! As a month in you will want to change the design.
5. Get your shoes on and door knock and leaflet drop. You should be coming home knackered everyday 10 hour days, don't skip on it. Hard work.
6. Get a website and buzz page on FB. (Don't waste money on paying for a website use wix or similar.
7. Get a polo with logo etc on it.
8.  It will start slow. And I mean slow. You will give out leaflets some mornings and nobody will get back to you.
9. Go for 8 weekly, slow to build however more customers, charge more, crusty happy to see you every other month.
10. At the start you will price too low, whatever price you think add a few pound onto it. You shouldn't get every job you quote for..means your too cheap.
11. Customers are vultures, they will mess you about, not pay you, treat you like scum. Find the good ones and don't even bother with the scum. Don't let them grind you down.
12. Don't bother with adwords, big paid for leaflet drops at the start.
13. Don't think in a month trading you will be making 200 pound a day, trust me you will not.
14. Don't believe what everybody says on this forum, people saying they make that sort of money everyday, you don't and won't. 
15. Don't even think about commercial, get a good residential round first.
16. You add ons will come from your windy customers,

Steep learning curve it is bud, best of look to you. Don't be a fool and waste a big load of cash before have even cleaned a window. Window cleaning suppliers make a fortune out of new startups. You can do it ALL the same  for a lot less.
And remember the customer is NEVER RIGHT!!!!!!!

[Jays Window Cleaning]

Very well put don't run before you can walk . I would hate to see 6 months down the line you needing to sell it all and loose out loads. Don't take it to heart we are here to guide you and help you. I've been WFP  since 2010 and I still come on here and ask questions . This is a very helpful site and you will learn loads from here . Listen to the pros that have been at it for years . Good luck with your business in whichever way you choose run it.

Jay

[Smurf]

Some great bargains also come up from time to time on the likes of fleebay etc where newbies have bought flash kit and after a very sort time given up.

Also might be worth finding out the options of a custom  built lay flat tank that you can put a floor over the top of it as both those brands are not really suitable for your needs as are way too high.

[jk999]

Spudly why would you start a round at eight weekly that would take forever to get a good round established. I hate customers that go to eight weekly

[C & S]

To JK99

I started out monthly, eventually switched onto 8 weekly, all new cuties on 8 weekly.

Reasons:
You charge more,  hourly rate goes up.
People end up begrudging paying every 4 weeks end up losing them.
You have more customers, sell add ons easier, not worried losing a few.
People are actually happy to see you, don't get those skip until next month tossers.

It does take longer to build a decent round.
I do a handful of bigger houses 25pounds on 4 weekly, they can afford it and want it doing.
95 percent 8 weekly though.