[Rich Wilts]

Dimwits make it in politics, and micro-additive cleaning fluid sales.

[sunshine windows]

[do you know any one man bands earning £60k+ a year?........yeah....me neither!

/quote]

Yes, I do!

My figures were based on averages to hit the target. When £500+ days are achievable it's easily done

[Spruce]

Isn't is sad that the education world sorts us into categories defined by how well we did in academic exams when leaving school.  The more 'O' Levels or GCSE's you got and the higher the pass mark means your status is higher than someone who didn't achieve that.

Does that mean that you as a 'non achiever' are a worse person than someone who did achieve that? No.

Unfortunately the world doesn't set any other standard to rate achievement. What about those who are mechanically minded? There is no measure of that. So does a mechanically minded person become less of a person than a university graduate? In the modern world, yes.

This point is based on a discussion I had with the wife's cousin last week. He is a retired high school teacher.

Citroen UK wouldn't employee anyone in the sales or service team in Slough who didn't have a university qualification. It didn't matter what that qualification was, you just have had to achieve it. Did that make sense? No. They gave a job to a university graduate rather than to a well experience job applicant from another motor manufacturer who didn't have the qualifications. (This wasn't me BTW.)
The chap who got the job was like a fish out of water.

[Plankton]

Find one of these IQ tests and post it on here, we can then post the scores with a little added on 

[Stoots]

GSCE s were mainly C grades although i was predicted A in most subject untill i started playing truent, didnt do any homework and spent more time getting suspended etc.

NVQ lvl 2 and 3 in Vehicle Mechanics - hated it
Certificate in IT - I was half way through a batchelors degree when i quit it and my job to do this game - didnt fancy being stuck in an office

[8weekly]

GSCE s were mainly C grades although i was predicted A in most subject untill i started playing truent, didnt do any homework and spent more time getting suspended etc.

NVQ lvl 2 and 3 in Vehicle Mechanics - hated it
Certificate in IT - I was half way through a batchelors degree when i quit it and my job to do this game - didnt fancy being stuck in an office

Obviously you missed the spelling lesson. 

[DaveG]

ok there is a big north/south divide in regards to pricing.my brother was paying £1600 a month RENT for years in wimbledon while i was paying £300 a month up north

Was your brother renting a council flat Daz?

Don't think I'm taking the mickey but a council flat down here is roughly the same

[Smurf]

Isn't is sad that the education world sorts us into categories defined by how well we did in academic exams when leaving school.  The more 'O' Levels or GCSE's you got and the higher the pass mark means your status is higher than someone who didn't achieve that.

Does that mean that you as a 'non achiever' are a worse person than someone who did achieve that? No.

Unfortunately the world doesn't set any other standard to rate achievement. What about those who are mechanically minded? There is no measure of that. So does a mechanically minded person become less of a person than a university graduate? In the modern world, yes.

This point is based on a discussion I had with the wife's cousin last week. He is a retired high school teacher.

Citroen UK wouldn't employee anyone in the sales or service team in Slough who didn't have a university qualification. It didn't matter what that qualification was, you just have had to achieve it. Did that make sense? No. They gave a job to a university graduate rather than to a well experience job applicant from another motor manufacturer who didn't have the qualifications. (This wasn't me BTW.)
The chap who got the job was like a fish out of water.

I know of an academic chap that when he went to fit draft excluders on his internal garage door of his home decided to stick it all around the actual door not the frame.  The best one was when he decided to take some wood down the tip instead of realising they were too long and cut them down proceeded to shut the tailgate down and smashed the back window obviously in his mind to make then fit 

[Steve foster]

Another fully qualified Mechanic here. Spent about 30 years in the Commercial side.
Then went and did Health and Safety reports and repairs on Children's  play areas  before getting into Window cleaning as my Semi Retirement job.

[paulben]

7 cse's 2 at level 1 city & guilds in mechanical engineering and tech3 in mechanical engineering time served machinist . Like the less hassle being window cleaner and being able to work when I want

[JSMC]

Few standard grade exams from school. Mainly general marks. 2nd year city m guilds car mechanics. Hnc mechatronics from two years college. Iso internal auditor, IOSH & NEBOSH certified from last job and ipaf ticket.

[Jamie Thomas]

I went to high school it was built on a bank

[Spruce]

Isn't is sad that the education world sorts us into categories defined by how well we did in academic exams when leaving school.  The more 'O' Levels or GCSE's you got and the higher the pass mark means your status is higher than someone who didn't achieve that.

Does that mean that you as a 'non achiever' are a worse person than someone who did achieve that? No.

Unfortunately the world doesn't set any other standard to rate achievement. What about those who are mechanically minded? There is no measure of that. So does a mechanically minded person become less of a person than a university graduate? In the modern world, yes.

This point is based on a discussion I had with the wife's cousin last week. He is a retired high school teacher.

Citroen UK wouldn't employee anyone in the sales or service team in Slough who didn't have a university qualification. It didn't matter what that qualification was, you just have had to achieve it. Did that make sense? No. They gave a job to a university graduate rather than to a well experience job applicant from another motor manufacturer who didn't have the qualifications. (This wasn't me BTW.)
The chap who got the job was like a fish out of water.

I know of an academic chap that when he went to fit draft excluders on his internal garage door of his home decided to stick it all around the actual door not the frame.  The best one was when he decided to take some wood down the tip instead of realising they were too long and cut them down proceeded to shut the tailgate down and smashed the back window obviously in his mind to make then fit 

 

[Johnny B]

I left school at 16 with GCE 'O' Levels in English Literature and French, and a CSE grade 1 in Spanish. Got a royal fail in maths and a 'D' in English language.

I worked in an office for 16 years before going self-employed, and started window cleaning 2 years after that.

I don't believe qualifications mean a thing other than that it demonstrates the ability to put on paper what you remember about the subject at the time.

If people look down on us window cleaners, let them. It's honest graft for fair pay, and  you don't have to spend years of your life and a king's ransom on a university education to learn to be able to do it and be successful.

John

[Frankybadboy]

if i told you,you wouldn't believe me 

[8weekly]

if i told you,you wouldn't believe me 

We wouldn't if you told us you had a cycling proficiency certificate. 

[Danny F]

I have a degree in psychology and started into window cleaning. Honestly wouldnt even look back

[andyM]

I have a degree in psychology and started into window cleaning. Honestly wouldnt even look back

I've found that about 0.5-1% of customers in this game are nutty as a fruit cake.
What's your take on this?

[sunshine windows]

I feel sometimes a counselling qualification would come in handy. The amount of people that bare their soles to us window cleaners is staggering.

Also I think that 99% of window cleaners being completely off their rockers is a good balance for the 0.5-1% of the public 

[Smurf]

I feel sometimes a counselling qualification would come in handy. The amount of people that bare their soles to us window cleaners is staggering.

Also I think that 99% of window cleaners being completely off their rockers is a good balance for the 0.5-1% of the public 

Me being off my rocker no chance Lance... Well that's what the little chap on my shoulder keeps telling me anyhow so it must be true