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AuRavelling79

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Re: Qualifications?
« Reply #40 on: January 23, 2016, 06:26:13 pm »
@sunshine

Define "lucrative".

A sole operator well groomed part time round turning over £35K?

A mama and papa well pruned compact round turning over £50K?

A family business with a handful of vans turning over £200K?

Pink Elephant and his £1,000,000 plus empire?

DMSI who sneezes at half a billion and calls himself "Moderator"?  ;D
It's a game of three halves!

dazmond

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Re: Qualifications?
« Reply #41 on: January 23, 2016, 06:54:17 pm »
Cycling Proficiency and 25 metres Front crawl with me pyjamas on.

 ;D ;D ;D

yeah i had loads of swimming badges!football trophies etc at school.

as for exams not so good.we were the guinea pigs for the GCSEs and a lot of teachers were on strike for the last 2 years of my education plus the school wasnt the best.

i already had a rebellious rock n roll streak so only ended up with ART and ENGLISH GCSE.

I used to bunk off school quite regular.i was also in the school band playing drums.

my mum and dad could see i was gonna be a waster if they didnt do something quick! ;D

so i started on a local plant nursery working long hours straight from leaving school and going to college in nantwich,cheshire day release.i liked it for a while but working nearly 60 hours a week(sometimes more!)partying hard at clubs,playing gigs and general womanising took their toll.

they say youth is wasted on the young and i have to agree now at 44.i just didnt realise what i had back then.my memory was very good and i learned very quickly,i knew hundreds of latin names for plants and was running round doing the foremans job at 17 years of age.driving tractors/forklift trucks.

some of the other guys resented the fact a young guy like me was telling them what to do.i had very good organising skills and the dutch manager was going to send me to holland to train as a manager.

one day i found his payslip in the brew room(it must of fell out of his pocket)and i was shocked how much he came out with(£270)for working up to 80 hours a week!(i kid you not!)this was 1989 though.

by this time i hated the job and basically told them to get lost.

i then worked at a landscaping firm and loved it for a while but same problem.long hours/crap money.i got sacked in the end.then i was on the dole for 10 months.(the only time in my life ive been on benefits).

looking back i could of got myself into a lot of trouble,.

then one day at a mates house with a terrible hangover,skint and basically in pieces.i turned round to him and said"i cant carry on like this!i need a job!" and RIGHT ON CUE HIS WINDOW CLEANER TURNED UP TO CLEAN THE WINDOWS! ;D

i asked him for a job.at first he was hesitant as i probably looked like a total scally waster.then he said the magic words"right!ill pick you up at 845am tommorrow!"

that was it.he even says today i was the best worker he ever had!

i worked with him for a year,learnt a few things in that time then started myself back in 1993 after buying a maestro van!


i used to work a few days with him while i was building my round up.i went out nearly every night and sat/sun canvassing for 6 months.

like most people ive had a lot of ups and downs,debt problems,personal issues etc but window cleaning has always been there to allow me to make a few quid and keep my head above water.for that im eternally grateful.

ive been close to being homeless a few times but that was a long time ago now.
price higher/work harder!

NWH

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Re: Qualifications?
« Reply #42 on: January 23, 2016, 07:55:06 pm »
Blimey m8 I enjoyed reading that it was quiet emotional actually.

8weekly

Re: Qualifications?
« Reply #43 on: January 23, 2016, 08:32:27 pm »
Genuinely Dazmond, you are an inspiration.

sunshine windows

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Re: Qualifications?
« Reply #44 on: January 23, 2016, 08:42:58 pm »
Quote
.  @sunshine

Define "lucrative".

A sole operator well groomed part time round turning over £35K?

A mama and papa well pruned compact round turning over £50K?

A family business with a handful of vans turning over £200K?

Pink Elephant and his £1,000,000 plus empire?

DMSI who sneezes at half a billion and calls himself "Moderator"?  ;D 

I would say a one man band turning over £60k+ not busting your balls would be a start. I wouldn't consider £35k lucrative, not trying to belittle anyone here, so apologies if it sounds flippant.

I like to hear of other people's success stories. It drives me to want to do better myself.
To climb mount fuji you must first find a path
(Swindon, Wiltshire)

www.sunshinewindowcleaning.co.uk
www.sunshinesoftwashing.co.uk

Rich Wilts

Re: Qualifications?
« Reply #45 on: January 23, 2016, 09:06:16 pm »
I've got a tractor driving proficiency certificate.

NWH

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Re: Qualifications?
« Reply #46 on: January 23, 2016, 09:12:35 pm »
60k a start I did like that comment lol.

sunshine windows

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Re: Qualifications?
« Reply #47 on: January 23, 2016, 09:22:54 pm »
You know very well NWH that anyone who takes this profession seriously can achieve that very easily. £250 a day, 5 days a week with 4 weeks holiday.
To climb mount fuji you must first find a path
(Swindon, Wiltshire)

www.sunshinewindowcleaning.co.uk
www.sunshinesoftwashing.co.uk

dazmond

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Re: Qualifications?
« Reply #48 on: January 23, 2016, 09:42:52 pm »
Quote
.  @sunshine

Define "lucrative".

A sole operator well groomed part time round turning over £35K?

A mama and papa well pruned compact round turning over £50K?

A family business with a handful of vans turning over £200K?

Pink Elephant and his £1,000,000 plus empire?

DMSI who sneezes at half a billion and calls himself "Moderator"?  ;D 

I would say a one man band turning over £60k+ not busting your balls would be a start. I wouldn't consider £35k lucrative, not trying to belittle anyone here, so apologies if it sounds flippant.

I like to hear of other people's success stories. It drives me to want to do better myself.

do you know any one man bands earning £60k+ a year?........yeah....me neither!

most domestic one man window cleaners wont even earn half that in a year(turnover that is).

price higher/work harder!

dazmond

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Re: Qualifications?
« Reply #49 on: January 23, 2016, 09:48:54 pm »
You know very well NWH that anyone who takes this profession seriously can achieve that very easily. £250 a day, 5 days a week with 4 weeks holiday.

no they cant.lots of us take this profession seriously but cant earn them figures day in/day out/week in/week out/month in/month out.its just not realistic for most of us and will just result in disappointment.

to AVERAGE them figures you d have to earn much more a day.

in typical CIU style its over inflated,unrealistic and out of the grasp of most cleaners
price higher/work harder!

NWH

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Re: Qualifications?
« Reply #50 on: January 23, 2016, 09:53:46 pm »
Daz I know what your saying and you are right m8 but down south it's easily done pal on your own and it ain't even a full day.

8weekly

Re: Qualifications?
« Reply #51 on: January 23, 2016, 09:57:58 pm »
You know very well NWH that anyone who takes this profession seriously can achieve that very easily. £250 a day, 5 days a week with 4 weeks holiday.

no they cant.lots of us take this profession seriously but cant earn them figures day in/day out/week in/week out/month in/month out.its just not realistic for most of us and will just result in disappointment.

to AVERAGE them figures you d have to earn much more a day.

in typical CIU style its over inflated,unrealistic and out of the grasp of most cleaners
Yes they can. It's a doddle in the south.

dazmond

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Re: Qualifications?
« Reply #52 on: January 23, 2016, 10:00:40 pm »
ok there is a big north/south divide in regards to pricing.my brother was paying £1600 a month RENT for years in wimbledon while i was paying £300 a month up north,£10 for a burger!where up north you can get 2 burger meals,fries,2 drinks and still have change left over out of a tenner! ;D

so he was paying an extra £15,000+ a year in rent alone! :o
price higher/work harder!

NWH

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Re: Qualifications?
« Reply #53 on: January 23, 2016, 10:06:17 pm »
This is why I bang on about the right kind of work not the amount of work,I think so many windys get it in there head that more work is better,yeah more is better if its better work than you've been doing. Let's say I have 300-400 jobs I might earn more than the bloke with 2 blokes working for him doing 1200 jobs as a 3 man team. This is the misconception when people ask you what you do for a living they have absolutely no idea really,they would just think you earn just over the basic wage and why wouldn't they to them it's just window cleaning isn't it. I've said it before if you have 1 £100 job who's saying you can't go out and get another 100 £100 jobs it's up to the individual person running there business. I understand that in different parts of the country it's harder to do but If you take your best job-jobs what position would you be in earning wise if your day was full of similar jobs.

dazmond

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Re: Qualifications?
« Reply #54 on: January 23, 2016, 10:11:02 pm »
i earn  well at this game these days but its only happened over the last 5-6 years really since i went wfp.for years i just plodded on and nearly threw the towel in a few times.glad i didnt now though! :)
price higher/work harder!

NWH

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Re: Qualifications?
« Reply #55 on: January 23, 2016, 10:15:24 pm »
£10 for a burger yeah it is on the south bank m8 not quiet that a bit further south though lol,don't forget the real big city earners have a different view on money one of my customers I know well a friend really goes out in London comes home the next morning still ped glances at his credit card bill and says blimey that must have been a good night I spent 3 grand lol. So when they see your bill for cleaning there silly size house for decent money to us it's peanuts m8,if you've got no money any money is a lot but if you've got S£££ loads you see things different,what you need to live down south is far higher if you had a mortgage and bills to pay down here your struggle on that 35 grand.

Rich Wilts

Re: Qualifications?
« Reply #56 on: January 23, 2016, 10:51:48 pm »
Daz what was your tax bill for the last 12 months?

Rich Wilts

Re: Qualifications?
« Reply #57 on: January 23, 2016, 10:55:27 pm »
You know very well NWH that anyone who takes this profession seriously can achieve that very easily. £250 a day, 5 days a week with 4 weeks holiday.

no they cant.lots of us take this profession seriously but cant earn them figures day in/day out/week in/week out/month in/month out.its just not realistic for most of us and will just result in disappointment.

to AVERAGE them figures you d have to earn much more a day.

in typical CIU style its over inflated,unrealistic and out of the grasp of most cleaners
Yes they can. It's a doddle in the south.

True. I laugh to myself on a regular basis what's to be earnt on the glass these days, and gutters for that matter.

Dave Willis

Re: Qualifications?
« Reply #58 on: January 23, 2016, 11:18:00 pm »
I have heard that up north they only earn £60 an hour. Got to feel sorry for them really.

SeanK

Re: Qualifications?
« Reply #59 on: January 24, 2016, 12:51:35 am »
Guys come on, we have shiners on here who think by adding a teaspoon of a cleaning solution to 600lts of water turns
it into a superior cleaning solution and better still restores the shine on plastic.
Does that not tell you that this job still attracts the biggest bone heads in society, the thing is a dimwit can still make it in this game
and until that changes we will all be tarred by the same brush.