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kevincoggan

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Re: Vision On
« Reply #100 on: December 18, 2014, 09:42:13 pm »
i'm of the same opinion too oliver, ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Tadgh O Shea

Re: Vision On
« Reply #101 on: December 18, 2014, 10:19:31 pm »
I have been using vision for 7 days and I think the stuff is fantastic, these guys who have developed the stuff need to be congratulated for helping to improve the quality of water fed pole window cleaning. Every improvement, no matter how small results in our customers receiving a better quality service. This is what we have found on using this additive:
1. The brush does glide better especially on leaded, is it still cleaning with the brush gliding better? yes of course it does as others have commented on how fast it removes bird/insect poo
2. The spots and marks left by insect poo (or whatever it is) are no longer a problem with using vison in your water. I have a mornings work in a rural area that is the worst part of my round in regards to dirty windows from insects etc. I have waited until I cleaned this area before writing my comments, we found that the insect marks that have been impossible to move with just pure water, have now been removed with ease. The customers frames/conservatories/windows/doors look so much better, its has deffinatley got some umph to it.
3.  We have all probably been asked by the customer 'is it just water your cleaning with?, is there no soap?' and when you reply yes and explain the cleaning properties of pure water, you get a look that doesn't inspire you with confidence in that the customer believes what you have just told them. I think this product will help win over customers confidence in water fed pole window cleaning if they know you have and additive that helps give their windows the great results.

Is it faster ? - yes it removes insect marks and bird poo faster
Is it cost effective ? - too right it is, it has improved cleaning power and it costs under £20 and lasts for a good few months and more for most people,
Does it make more windows hydrophillic ? I think it does but I personally don't care about this as a major improvement.

For me the marks left by insects/birds that are removed with ease are enough to convince me to keep using the product, this product costs pence per day for giving our customers a better quality end result to their windows/frames etc.







Maybe the fact that there's a lot of moisture on the glass and in the air plus no baking sun would make bird muck easier to
remove at this time of the year.
The wet weather of late might also have something to do with it.
Sean you will have to be careful, JK999 will be along to clock you with his pole.

SeanK

Re: Vision On
« Reply #102 on: December 18, 2014, 11:28:58 pm »
Yes have noticed that Tadgh, every time somebody leaves negative or neutral feedback three or four cronies
try and drown it with super positive feedback followed by JK999 foaming at the mouth.

Jonny 87

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Re: Vision On
« Reply #103 on: December 18, 2014, 11:34:37 pm »
Kempy & Jonny
Can you tell us more about this product please ?


http://jigsaw-innovations.co.uk/product/wholesale-quantities/

At the minute all we can really say is what's in the description box there on the site.

We are working on this as we speak and will be the next product to be released alongside vision, but Tailored more to the commercial market where employers have to deal with employees dosing there tanks etc.
Vision Technician / Visual Engineer /  Vision Enhancement Operative /...........................................................OnlyUseMeWFP AkA Jonny the Windy Wesher

Trev Jones

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Re: Vision On
« Reply #104 on: December 18, 2014, 11:54:32 pm »
Yes have noticed that Tadgh, every time somebody leaves negative or neutral feedback three or four cronies
try and drown it with super positive feedback followed by JK999 foaming at the mouth.

Yes have noticed that Tadgh, every time somebody leaves positive feedback one cronie tries to drown it with super negative feedback followed by SeanK foaming at the mouth.


kempy

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Re: Vision On
« Reply #105 on: December 19, 2014, 12:07:20 am »
End of the day we all like different products and bits of kit .

hasti

  • Posts: 498
Re: Vision On
« Reply #106 on: December 19, 2014, 06:39:58 pm »
Kempy & Jonny
Can you tell us more about this product please ?


http://jigsaw-innovations.co.uk/product/wholesale-quantities/

At the minute all we can really say is what's in the description box there on the site.

We are working on this as we speak and will be the next product to be released alongside vision, but Tailored more to the commercial market where employers have to deal with employees dosing there tanks etc.

Thanks jonny look forward to that  :)

Dave Willis

Re: Vision On
« Reply #107 on: December 19, 2014, 07:09:13 pm »
Sorry, but I have to say it..............

If you're selling Green Vision I guess it's because it's environmentaly safe?
If so what does that make the original Vision?

Not having a go, just pointing out how it appears. I might have the wrong end of the stick. 

kempy

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Re: Vision On
« Reply #108 on: December 19, 2014, 07:10:47 pm »
Dave , I think you would pull anything to pieces . Even fresh Air .
Have a good xmas

Dave Willis

Re: Vision On
« Reply #109 on: December 19, 2014, 07:12:24 pm »
No, seriously. Don't you see how it appears?

kempy

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Re: Vision On
« Reply #110 on: December 19, 2014, 07:25:07 pm »
Dave , ive got two young kids , family time I'm having this weekend . I don't worry what yourself or the few other persons think . The reviews say it all , we're getting repeated sales now which means the product is pleasing the users . Persons are buying their second bottles now so that's very good .

Dave Willis

Re: Vision On
« Reply #111 on: December 19, 2014, 07:31:42 pm »
What's that got to do with it ???

Can't you see the glaring mistake you've made? By inventing a green version you are suggesting that something is wrong with the original version ie. it may not be environmentally safe. Why not just sell the green anyway? You have inadvertently shot yourselves in the foot surely?

I'm glad your selling lots of bottles - you deserve it especially if you've all invested but be careful is all I'm saying.

kempy

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Re: Vision On
« Reply #112 on: December 19, 2014, 07:45:22 pm »
We're be fine Dave . It gives you something to moan about .

The vision and Eco were both on the website at the launch of the site .

If you haven't bought , and not even going to buy , why do you channel so much energy into making up Froth and posting so much drivel .
Go out for a pint ???
Chill out its xmas lol

kempy

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Re: Vision On
« Reply #113 on: December 19, 2014, 07:48:13 pm »
I'm on holiday now .
Will answer any phone-calls as I have a dozen times today from very happy users .
I'm on Ciu holiday until the new year
Lol

Have a good one everyone .

Jonny 87

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Re: Vision On
« Reply #114 on: December 19, 2014, 08:26:43 pm »
What's that got to do with it ???

Can't you see the glaring mistake you've made? By inventing a green version you are suggesting that something is wrong with the original version ie. it may not be environmentally safe. Why not just sell the green anyway? You have inadvertently shot yourselves in the foot surely?

I'm glad your selling lots of bottles - you deserve it especially if you've all invested but be careful is all I'm saying.

Dave,

It's the same principle as having ecover soap. Why do some prefer ecover rather than fairy liquid? Or any Eco products in general?

Vision is perfectly safe in its diluted state, but in it's concentrated form you have to be careful (not to drink it or squirt it in your eyes etc) but the Eco version will be basically safe in all aspects.

As with many Eco products though, it doesn't perhaps have as much cleaning power to it as of yet, but it ticks the box of "Eco friendly" which some will prefer.

It's all about choice and compromise Dave.

Vision Technician / Visual Engineer /  Vision Enhancement Operative /...........................................................OnlyUseMeWFP AkA Jonny the Windy Wesher

duncan h

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Re: Vision On
« Reply #115 on: December 19, 2014, 08:42:20 pm »
I don't care if it melts windows after 10 years. If it makes my job better  ;D

Bungle

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Re: Vision On
« Reply #116 on: December 19, 2014, 09:26:33 pm »
Dave , ive got two young kids , family time I'm having this weekend . I don't worry what yourself or the few other persons think . The reviews say it all , we're getting repeated sales now which means the product is pleasing the users . Persons are buying their second bottles now so that's very good .


But it last months you said. How are these people getting through months worth in just 2 weeks of it being on sale?
We look at them, they look through them.

Bungle

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Re: Vision On
« Reply #117 on: December 19, 2014, 09:37:40 pm »
Answer please owners of Vision. You are both on-line.
We look at them, they look through them.

Jonny 87

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Re: Vision On
« Reply #118 on: December 19, 2014, 09:42:32 pm »
Dave , ive got two young kids , family time I'm having this weekend . I don't worry what yourself or the few other persons think . The reviews say it all , we're getting repeated sales now which means the product is pleasing the users . Persons are buying their second bottles now so that's very good .


But it last months you said. How are these people getting through months worth in just 2 weeks of it being on sale?

In Kempys defense We have had a few customers order more to stock up in case we run short of supply again.

As we've said though it's just there for any who want to make use of it. Were not pushing this on people. :)
Vision Technician / Visual Engineer /  Vision Enhancement Operative /...........................................................OnlyUseMeWFP AkA Jonny the Windy Wesher

Jonny 87

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Re: Vision On
« Reply #119 on: December 19, 2014, 09:43:46 pm »
Answer please owners of Vision. You are both on-line.

Yes officer. 👮

 ;D

Vision Technician / Visual Engineer /  Vision Enhancement Operative /...........................................................OnlyUseMeWFP AkA Jonny the Windy Wesher