[TheWindowManChris]

So your topic of Canvassing exposed.   I know from years ago when people did the Yellow Pages and they dump yellow pages down the side at Railways and etc and still take full money.

I always say the companies who you always see about doing canvassing are always the good ones.   In my area you always see a company called 'Door to Door' and the do stuff from Take-Aways to Tesco, Coop stuff and I know you get may be couple hours late a other guys asking if you got a leaflet.  

Sorry just wanted to bring it back to topic

[KT1]

Mick you havent won anything your making up wild stories, Mitch at clean it up please can you verify for Micks sake Ive only ever had one account? Jesus

[Crystal-clear]

Susan your hubby must be a man mountain I'm sure its not the first time I noticed you mention him by the sounds of it if too many cancelations and he feels a top up is required I'm sure he will get it lol

It's true u must be very carefull paying up front particularaly if you do not know the person I would never advise it , but he has refs they are real and will tell you what they thought of him bad or good wheater it wasn't as good as they were hoping or really good they are real people and hopefully will be honest, remember he provides you with a marketing package which garentees you your money back over 2x cleans not perfect customers as they don't exist until cleaned ,

It's not for everyone no and its alot of money so whatever you choose to do I hope you take the right path

[Whizz-Bizz]

So your topic of Canvassing exposed.   I know from years ago when people did the Yellow Pages and they dump yellow pages down the side at Railways and etc and still take full money.

I always say the companies who you always see about doing canvassing are always the good ones.   In my area you always see a company called 'Door to Door' and the do stuff from Take-Aways to Tesco, Coop stuff and I know you get may be couple hours late a other guys asking if you got a leaflet.  

Sorry just wanted to bring it back to topic

Lets get it back on topic, good suggestion. Whenever I see guys out leafleting I always stop them for a quick chat and try and get their number to give to the cleaner as, as Ive seen them doing the job you know there a good egg. Maybe try that with door guys too. Thats actually how I got into this I was in a door sells job and knocked a window cleaners door, he liked my approach and offered me a job. Thats how Whizz-Bizz was born to be fair.

[TheWindowManChris]

So your topic of Canvassing exposed.   I know from years ago when people did the Yellow Pages and they dump yellow pages down the side at Railways and etc and still take full money.

I always say the companies who you always see about doing canvassing are always the good ones.   In my area you always see a company called 'Door to Door' and the do stuff from Take-Aways to Tesco, Coop stuff and I know you get may be couple hours late a other guys asking if you got a leaflet.  

Sorry just wanted to bring it back to topic

Lets get it back on topic, good suggestion. Whenever I see guys out leafleting I always stop them for a quick chat and try and get their number to give to the cleaner as, as Ive seen them doing the job you know there a good egg. Maybe try that with door guys too. Thats actually how I got into this I was in a door sells job and knocked a window cleaners door, he liked my approach and offered me a job. Thats how Whizz-Bizz was born to be fair.

Yea there a other guy who basically asks if you got leaflet and then tries a small sales patter such as the Insulation stuff they said 'Could I book you appointment if you not already booked one'

[Whizz-Bizz]

They do that in double glazing, knock the door "Oh just checking up on my leafleting guy, did you get this flyer" say no oh as you didnt know, try and close them, say yes oh as you know then try and close them.

[TheWindowManChris]

They do that in double glazing, knock the door "Oh just checking up on my leafleting guy, did you get this flyer" say no oh as you didnt know, try and close them, say yes oh as you know then try and close them.

Yea weatherseal does that in my area.  Guy said 'Did you get that leaflet' I said 'Yea' and he said  "Well nobody even posted it thru your letterbox' Which I then said 'Well why asked a stupid question'  He soon went but I did today actually knocked on few doors and said 'Just in area and giving prices on window cleaning'   I gained 15 people with cleans and 10 people said come back when wife/husband in.   

I did around 50 homes too and I had a few phone calls from 'I saw you at my neighbours can I get a price'

[Whizz-Bizz]

I think with that approach have you had this flyer you can sometimes get too drawn into the whole didnt get one scenerio, sounds like your fairly decent with the door knocking, with that pick up rate

[TheWindowManChris]

I think with that approach have you had this flyer you can sometimes get too drawn into the whole didnt get one scenerio, sounds like your fairly decent with the door knocking, with that pick up rate

I used to do Door to Door sales then worked for a business consult who deals with Making business more customer centric.   But I started Window Cleaning to fit around my family and now wished I did it earlier.

[Paul Coleman]

Mick you havent won anything your making up wild stories, Mitch at clean it up please can you verify for Micks sake Ive only ever had one account? Jesus

Whatever your credentials are out there (and they may well be good), whenever you get involved on a thread in this forum it deteriorates quite quickly.
Possibly no fault of yours.  You have the right to defend yourself or anyone else.
Maybe you have a tendency to make yourself a target?
Or maybe some of the many wind-up merchants on here realise they can get under your skin?

Not having a pop at you but maybe something to think about.

[Whizz-Bizz]

Mick you havent won anything your making up wild stories, Mitch at clean it up please can you verify for Micks sake Ive only ever had one account? Jesus

Whatever your credentials are out there (and they may well be good), whenever you get involved on a thread in this forum it deteriorates quite quickly.
Possibly no fault of yours.  You have the right to defend yourself or anyone else.
Maybe you have a tendency to make yourself a target?
Or maybe some of the many wind-up merchants on here realise they can get under your skin?

I think youve hit the nail on the head, sometimes when someone is very passionate about what they do its very easy to get drawn into arguments

Not having a pop at you but maybe something to think about.

I think youve hit the nail on the head, sometimes when someone is very passionate about what they do its very easy to get drawn into arguments, lets all just get on is my thoughts.

[KT1]

Hi Paul

I think the problem for myself, is that I mentioned this solution 3 years ago, ( I think possibly longer) about telesales, and it wasn't accepted, but now seems everybody is on the bandwagon, so its pretty frustrating for myself that nobody took my advice back then, but now its the "in thing to do".  Ultimately we as a company have moved on from telesales, and offer other forms of marketing, telesales is great, but in today's time, you need to keep moving - a lot is email marketing and if we have email contact for say 500 businesses in a customers area, were emailing them too, its a back up to just the phone...... just an extra service really.  Theres a chap on her asking about doing telesales himself, and I would be more than happy to talk through what I say on the phone, and what objectives he may face - not to work for him, but to get him of to a start....

Also Paul there are lots of telesales people out there, we dont just do cleaning.  We do catering, advertising, travel, research, surveys - not just one field

[Michael Peterson]

hi, that was me, i would welcome your advice, thank you very much for offering to help me

[KT1]

Sure Michael, let me know your mobile Ill give you a buzz tomorrow

[Michael Peterson]

07830529288 is the afternoon/nightime ok, thanks very much again :-)

[KT1]

Its fine Michael, no probs

[Susan Dean (1stclean)]

 spoken to two people about your services billy one said you were good the other said you poor  think he had an axe to grind he was from off here and not one of your guys

I will be contacting more this week , just keeping people up to date on the whole billy whizzz thing I think that's a fair thing to do 



1. 1st email sharp and unfriendly
2. 2nd   - even more unfriendly and I bit give us the money now
3, a challenge from yourself to find out about you too which I am doing

[Richard iSparkle]

spoken to two people about your services billy one said you were good the other said you poor  think he had an axe to grind he was from off here and not one of your guys

I will be contacting more this week , just keeping people up to date on the whole billy whizzz thing I think that's a fair thing to do 



1. 1st email sharp and unfriendly
2. 2nd   - even more unfriendly and I bit give us the money now
3, a challenge from yourself to find out about you too which I am doing

Would love some people to give you some feedback on your own communication style on this forum!

Not so much passive aggressive as just aggressive/aggressive.

I would recommend to Mark (Whiz) that he steers well clear of doing any work for you in the future.  You come across like a complete nightmare of a character with a real axe to grind with the world and his son.

 

[KT1]

Susan, a lot is dependent on area, not the person (23 years in I know this) up north we don't do well in relation to down on the south coast - so its not always the person.  Its to do with local economics - and how much people have as extra expendable income - its always been that way.  We do really well in some areas, and in others we don't because of saturation of services, where are you based? As always Susan I ask new customers "what have they done themselves" It puts expectations into perspective

[telboy]

spoken to two people about your services billy one said you were good the other said you poor  think he had an axe to grind he was from off here and not one of your guys

I will be contacting more this week , just keeping people up to date on the whole billy whizzz thing I think that's a fair thing to do 



1. 1st email sharp and unfriendly
2. 2nd   - even more unfriendly and I bit give us the money now
3, a challenge from yourself to find out about you too which I am doing

Would love some people to give you some feedback on your own communication style on this forum!

Not so much passive aggressive as just aggressive/aggressive.

I would recommend to Mark (Whiz) that he steers well clear of doing any work for you in the future.  You come across like a complete nightmare of a character with a real axe to grind with the world and his son.

 

A,men to that