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Jack Judd

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ionics pole is poop but agree with £60 per hour
« on: September 08, 2013, 09:29:51 pm »
I have been to all the ionics training for when I first started.  It was great and really helped me.  I have been really unimpressed with their poles though with one having four separate issues within 4 months.  However Craig (owner of Ionics) gave some good advice at working for a £1 a minute.  I try to stick to this.  This is with reference to the post for the guy who was dumped for his £9 a house after being told he got paid more than a surgeon.  I have a £10 minimum in place and if you offer a good service, eg plan your week, phone ahead, written quotes people are prepared to pay.  We turn up with our carbon fibre poles, our di-ionised water, why should we charge less than a £10 per house.  I only have 3 £10 houses.  The rest are £15 -80.  We should hold our prices and always look to add value.

Can anybody recommend a good brand of pole

LBWCS

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Re: ionics pole is poop but agree with £60 per hour
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2013, 09:39:49 pm »
Well said Jack. I think the comments to follow will overwhelmingly recommend Gardiners poles. And rightly so.

ben M

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Re: ionics pole is poop but agree with £60 per hour
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2013, 09:41:18 pm »
do you earn £60 per hour?
a good brand of pole? if you earn so much money you should know the best company!

Jack Judd

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Re: ionics pole is poop but agree with £60 per hour
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2013, 09:44:53 pm »
its not all about the product, it's what you do with it that matters.  All this talk about ppm and ppb.  Good pure water and good hard work.  However fed up with using poop poles and making do.  If I had the time I would design my own pole.

ben M

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Re: ionics pole is poop but agree with £60 per hour
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2013, 09:48:52 pm »
can you answer my question please? Do you earn £60 per hour?

Jack Judd

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Re: ionics pole is poop but agree with £60 per hour
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2013, 09:52:59 pm »
I try to aim for that but obviously not always able to get it.  £28 for a half an hour job x 2, but have to travel.  3 bed semi £18, 20 mins work.  Don't understand these £8 jobs
 
I have only been going 2 years, but my philosophy from day 1 was, my books are full and you are lucky to get me rather than, I am just beginning and am desperate for any job.  A tough 2 years but now paying off.  Perception is reality!!!  and to the national contractors who nicked my hard earned contracts watch out, here I come.

Archer

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Re: ionics pole is poop but agree with £60 per hour
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2013, 10:10:03 pm »


Don't understand the £8.00 jobs, I understand them perfectly well to be honest and don't see anything wrong with them, but that's just my opinion.

 


ben M

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Re: ionics pole is poop but agree with £60 per hour
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2013, 10:15:46 pm »


Don't understand the £8.00 jobs, I understand them perfectly well to be honest and don't see anything wrong with them, but that's just my opinion.

 


+1

Jack Judd

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Re: ionics pole is poop but agree with £60 per hour
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2013, 10:19:13 pm »
Why not just turn the £8 job into a £10 job and have that as a minimum.  Or if the £8 job is a monthly clean, turn it into a £12 bi-monthly clean and increase the number of customers accordingly. 

George P

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Re: ionics pole is poop but agree with £60 per hour
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2013, 10:20:03 pm »
area can also dictate the price, but good point to aim high in business, the old adage think little - you always will be, but think big - and you may just be big, wether thats in businesss or happiness or life in general

Archer

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Re: ionics pole is poop but agree with £60 per hour
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2013, 10:21:22 pm »

why not turn your £80.00 job into a £100.00 job ?

its pretty much the same,

just because it is £8.00 doesn't mean it is no good

Jack Judd

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Re: ionics pole is poop but agree with £60 per hour
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2013, 10:33:45 pm »
not quite a £10 minimum is not the same as a £100 minimum, same % percentage increase yes, but percentages are relative. I could swallow a £2 increase on my bi monthly window clean but when the buyer on my 200000 house wants 40k off the price he can think again.  As you said just your opinion and I respect that.  Just wanted to see people would accept thinking differently, just a thought and really I should be getting on with my planning.

Jack Judd

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Re: ionics pole is poop but agree with £60 per hour
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2013, 10:35:56 pm »
Actually I would turn my £80 customer into a £100 customer, put them on a bi-monthly clean and look to get another customer

Archer

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Re: ionics pole is poop but agree with £60 per hour
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2013, 10:37:20 pm »

what exactly is your planning, as you so put it  ?

If you put your £80.00 customer bi monthly, that would take some serious time to achieve this with all the work you must have, which in turn would surely lose you work

the £80 per month would give you £960 per year

compared to the £100.00 bi monthly giving you £600.00 per year

I would say that's pretty poor business skills.

PoleKing

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Re: ionics pole is poop but agree with £60 per hour
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2013, 10:53:45 pm »

what exactly is your planning, as you so put it  ?

If you put your £80.00 customer bi monthly, that would take some serious time to achieve this with all the work you must have, which in turn would surely lose you work

the £80 per month would give you £960 per year

compared to the £100.00 bi monthly giving you £600.00 per year

I would say that's pretty poor business skills.

+1.
Get everyone on monthly (if you can)
I'm moving all if my quarterlies over to 2 monthly slowly now.
Won't get most if my 2mth to monthly though-shame.
www.LanesWindowCleaning.com

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Archer

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Re: ionics pole is poop but agree with £60 per hour
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2013, 10:59:55 pm »

I was actually wanting Jack Judd to let me know what exactly is his planning ?

Surely charging £80.00 x however many customers doesn't need much planning,

and also one thing to remember before comparing an £8.00 job to an £80.00 job, is just how long do they take to clean x by how many can be cleaned in the day.

Maybe the £8.00 jobs may prove more profitable over the course of the day

windiewasher

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Re: ionics pole is poop but agree with £60 per hour
« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2013, 11:06:18 pm »
I think the op is just the usual millionaire that says he doesn't work for small prices!
Hes another £500 a day window cleaner whos finished by 2pm.
Takings off all first cleans till march 7th 2014
October  total=  cleaned  extra per month
November = cleaned extra per month
Total £  so far.

Archer

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Re: ionics pole is poop but agree with £60 per hour
« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2013, 11:12:07 pm »

I am just very interested in what the op means, when in his conversation he says "really I should be getting on with my planning"

I just wanted to see what his intentions are with the way he wants to take his business, as we ALL can plan, but I just found it quite odd saying that, as if the conversation I was having with him didn't really mean anything, as I had stated I could see nothing wrong with an £8.00 job

Maybe its just me  :-[

wpclean

Re: ionics pole is poop but agree with £60 per hour
« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2013, 11:17:50 pm »
Boring  ::)roll

rosskesava

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Re: ionics pole is poop but agree with £60 per hour
« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2013, 11:27:41 pm »
I can't work out what this thread is about or what the point being made in the original posting is.

It reads a bit unreal to me.

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