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Archer

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Re: ionics pole is poop but agree with £60 per hour
« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2013, 11:30:07 pm »


all I can work out is that £8.00 jobs must be pointless, and when its questioned he has no time, because he is better getting off, to go planning

new one on me

KS Cleaning

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Re: ionics pole is poop but agree with £60 per hour
« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2013, 11:31:14 pm »
I have been to all the ionics training for when I first started.  It was great and really helped me.  I have been really unimpressed with their poles though with one having four separate issues within 4 months.  However Craig (owner of Ionics) gave some good advice at working for a £1 a minute.  I try to stick to this.  This is with reference to the post for the guy who was dumped for his £9 a house after being told he got paid more than a surgeon.  I have a £10 minimum in place and if you offer a good service, eg plan your week, phone ahead, written quotes people are prepared to pay.  We turn up with our carbon fibre poles, our di-ionised water, why should we charge less than a £10 per house.  I only have 3 £10 houses.  The rest are £15 -80.  We should hold our prices and always look to add value.

Can anybody recommend a good brand of pole
I don't get the connection of  planning your week = people are prepared to pay ???

G Griffin

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Re: ionics pole is poop but agree with £60 per hour
« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2013, 11:31:37 pm »
Planning= butties and flask?
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windiewasher

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Re: ionics pole is poop but agree with £60 per hour
« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2013, 11:37:16 pm »
Hes saying he may aswell charge £100 instead of £80 bi-monthly and add another at the same price and that way hes even richer than he already is.
Next Friday he will have a large fish and chips and peas aswell! ;D
Takings off all first cleans till march 7th 2014
October  total=  cleaned  extra per month
November = cleaned extra per month
Total £  so far.

Archer

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Re: ionics pole is poop but agree with £60 per hour
« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2013, 11:37:47 pm »
 Why should we charge less than £10.00 per house ?


Quite simple really, you charge what you are happy to clean a job for, and also sometimes depending on areas, and amount of other window cleaners in those areas, things like this can dictate what can be charged.

I however agree we should value ourselves as to how good of a job we believe we do, but my point is you can earn more charging £8.00 for a job rather than charging more, as the smaller jobs may total money over the course of the day, giving you a better hourly rate when it is divided by the amount of hours worked


Archer

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Re: ionics pole is poop but agree with £60 per hour
« Reply #25 on: September 08, 2013, 11:41:21 pm »

It clearly would not work charging £100.00 bi monthly, as that answer is not really the kind of logic to take the business forward.

The £80.00 he would charge is clearly the top end of what he must charge which leaves the 3 x £10, and the lower priced jobs still there, like £15.00 jobs.

windiewasher

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Re: ionics pole is poop but agree with £60 per hour
« Reply #26 on: September 08, 2013, 11:41:49 pm »
Why should we charge less than £10.00 per house ?


Quite simple really, you charge what you are happy to clean a job for, and also sometimes depending on areas, and amount of other window cleaners in those areas, things like this can dictate what can be charged.

I however agree we should value ourselves as to how good of a job we believe we do, but my point is you can earn more charging £8.00 for a job rather than charging more, as the smaller jobs may total money over the course of the day, giving you a better hourly rate when it is divided by the amount of hours worked


Exactly mate,charge what your happy with at a hourly rate your happy with at a price that your customers are happy equating in more work.
No point charging over the odds and not getting the work to earn the money you want to earn at the end of the day,week or year!
Takings off all first cleans till march 7th 2014
October  total=  cleaned  extra per month
November = cleaned extra per month
Total £  so far.

Archer

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Re: ionics pole is poop but agree with £60 per hour
« Reply #27 on: September 08, 2013, 11:44:36 pm »

I actually have jobs at £4.00 and I am happy with them also, so don't know what he would think about them

rosskesava

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Re: ionics pole is poop but agree with £60 per hour
« Reply #28 on: September 09, 2013, 12:01:22 am »
Maybe the point being made is that if you charge more money then you make more money...............
Just chant..... Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare, Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare. It's beats chanting Tory Tory or Labour Labour.

windiewasher

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Re: ionics pole is poop but agree with £60 per hour
« Reply #29 on: September 09, 2013, 12:06:20 am »

I actually have jobs at £4.00 and I am happy with them also, so don't know what he would think about them
Its about what your happy with.theres always people saying they charge 3 times the amount of others.
Takings off all first cleans till march 7th 2014
October  total=  cleaned  extra per month
November = cleaned extra per month
Total £  so far.

Archer

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Re: ionics pole is poop but agree with £60 per hour
« Reply #30 on: September 09, 2013, 12:09:33 am »

correct, I also think I have some prices that are big amounts also, a bit more than £80.00 like the op says he has  ;)

I was just trying to make a point of saying the smaller prices are the bread and butter jobs and also valuable in themselves

windiewasher

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Re: ionics pole is poop but agree with £60 per hour
« Reply #31 on: September 09, 2013, 12:13:24 am »

correct, I also think I have some prices that are big amounts also, a bit more than £80.00 like the op says he has  ;)

I was just trying to make a point of saying the smaller prices are the bread and butter jobs and also valuable in themselves
Too right im the same i have commercials at ridicolously high prices and have jobs on domestics at ok prices but its about having continous work.
 day in day out work brings the reddies home.
 a good mix of commercial and domestics at a overall good hourly rate.
 
Takings off all first cleans till march 7th 2014
October  total=  cleaned  extra per month
November = cleaned extra per month
Total £  so far.

home6442

Re: ionics pole is poop but agree with £60 per hour
« Reply #32 on: September 09, 2013, 12:16:19 am »
I think what he means is that he wont work for less than a £1 per minute so an £80
property will take 80 minutes to complete.
Not much different than most claim to be earning on here.

windiewasher

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Re: ionics pole is poop but agree with £60 per hour
« Reply #33 on: September 09, 2013, 12:20:42 am »

Yes I agree,

but they come on here slating people who do charge smaller prices which in my opinion is wrong.

Just for the record the dearest house I clean is £850.00, but still have £4.00 ones
Fair play thats a fantastic price
Takings off all first cleans till march 7th 2014
October  total=  cleaned  extra per month
November = cleaned extra per month
Total £  so far.

Archer

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Re: ionics pole is poop but agree with £60 per hour
« Reply #34 on: September 09, 2013, 12:21:53 am »

would you believe we used to clean it every 2 weeks, monthly now

windiewasher

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Re: ionics pole is poop but agree with £60 per hour
« Reply #35 on: September 09, 2013, 12:26:35 am »

would you believe we used to clean it every 2 weeks, monthly now
Very nice at monthly but every 2 weeks must have been brilliant.must be a footballers?
Takings off all first cleans till march 7th 2014
October  total=  cleaned  extra per month
November = cleaned extra per month
Total £  so far.

home6442

Re: ionics pole is poop but agree with £60 per hour
« Reply #36 on: September 09, 2013, 12:28:38 am »

Yes I agree,

but they come on here slating people who do charge smaller prices which in my opinion is wrong.

Just for the record the dearest house I clean is £850.00, but still have £4.00 ones


Couldn't agree more its up to each of us what we want to charge.

rosskesava

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Re: ionics pole is poop but agree with £60 per hour
« Reply #37 on: September 09, 2013, 12:51:26 am »
I think what he means is that he wont work for less than a £1 per minute so an £80
property will take 80 minutes to complete.
Not much different than most claim to be earning on here.

7 hour day = 420 minutes = £420 per day.

8 hour day = £480 per day

5 day week = £2 400

6 day week = £2 880

4 weeks a month = £11 520

Yeah sure. Of course. Right on and an £850 house which at a pound a minute takes 14 hours to do?

Is this a willy waving thread?
Just chant..... Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare, Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare. It's beats chanting Tory Tory or Labour Labour.

Archer

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Re: ionics pole is poop but agree with £60 per hour
« Reply #38 on: September 09, 2013, 12:46:13 pm »

Rosskesava,

not sure if the willy waving is aimed at me ?

if you read the replies I state that £8.00 and £4.00 are good and that's what I am happy with, but for some it is poor prices, and I have read on many topics people belittling lower prices.

I made my point initially saying if you are happy and charging what you are happy with then that's all that matters.

I then decide to show a good price, and for that reason it is trying to show off, which is totally untrue.


Ste M

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Re: ionics pole is poop but agree with £60 per hour
« Reply #39 on: September 09, 2013, 01:35:31 pm »
A £850 house, which i believe as i can more or less guarantee its not a mid terrace with extra cash added due to bad access, will more than likely mean he has more than one person on it, ive got some stupidly priced work but also like chris i have some £4 work, the thing is I have the whole street and its worth my while as we'll move the van 2 or 3 times in a day.

why are people bothered by what others min charge is, i have a min charge but it doesn't always apply, it only applies when i have no more work in the road