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R.C Property

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Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
« Reply #60 on: June 29, 2013, 09:18:26 pm »
So your agenda is to promote a chemical which by your posts indicate may effect the plastic because you won't name it ?

Or more cynically wish to sell it on at a profit ? Which isn't a problem either

Lichen is always hard to remove with or without chemicals by only using a brush.
I found that a nice piece of planed wood much better that all that scrubbing used with running water then I had a car port 40 foot by 15 foot ( totally covered in lichen) so I converted the end of my water fed pole to take a squeegee and hey pesto job. Done in under 30 mins

As for quality of service once the roof is clean and the lichen is removed I have done what the customer has paid for a clean roof won't have any spores on it - they usually come from nearby trees or off lichen still growing on roof tiles

Just offering my experiences on the subject

Darran

agenda is to promote the chemical, i never reccomend anything untill i have tried it myself and made sure myself that it dont cause damage. which it should do as they use it on food plant machinery that has metal, plastics and rubber maybe glass depending on the machine i guess.

any salesman can tell you what you want to hear, but me like i like try it first and see for myself.  

yes i am hoping to supply it to. hence why i really want to give it a good testing.


with this the lichen was easy to remove, sprayed it on, waited and could rub off all of it with finger without much pressure, witch also kills any roots that are left behind within any scraches, or rubber seals, screw etc.



So you're a a qualified chemist and fully licened to test this product? F**ck S**e.


wtf????

the chemical has all ready been through all that as its been for sale for years! lol
im trying it out on how well it cleans the roofs etc!


Fair comment, but are you really qualified to guarantee that it won't cause a problem on plastic or glass conservatory roofs? You can't just spray some on and clean it and say it "looks ok" half an hour later! These companies spend a lot of money testing these products under strict guidelines making sure there are no come backs. (I do know) If it's a mate saying "give it a go" then fair enough, you may take a chance. You actually want to sell it and give a recommendation as to its quality then you need to be qualified. Why don't you just do all your testing and then promote it on the forum as a qualified product and just sell it?


its uses are walls, floors, in kitchens on all surfaces and on food plant machinery.  the place that will be supplying this to me has one more thats in the same range but stronger, that is used in the weetabix factory on all there machinery!

you dont need to be quilified to sell this at all.

this is the 3rd one i have tried in the range and the others didnt touch lichen at the dilution rates that is stated on the product. they cleaned everything else and brought the upvc up well. but with this one at the dilutions that is says work well and thats what im testing mainly.

R.C Property

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Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
« Reply #61 on: June 29, 2013, 09:21:05 pm »
Does it remove lichen from patio tiles or bricks ?

no idea not tried it, but spilt some on the floor and killed some weeds! lol

I know CAUSTIC SODA  ;)
so why you don't tell us R.C. ?

dam you guessed it! lol

all in good time! lol
its from a company called  SELDEN

robbo333

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Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
« Reply #62 on: June 29, 2013, 09:21:19 pm »
So your agenda is to promote a chemical which by your posts indicate may effect the plastic because you won't name it ?

Or more cynically wish to sell it on at a profit ? Which isn't a problem either

Lichen is always hard to remove with or without chemicals by only using a brush.
I found that a nice piece of planed wood much better that all that scrubbing used with running water then I had a car port 40 foot by 15 foot ( totally covered in lichen) so I converted the end of my water fed pole to take a squeegee and hey pesto job. Done in under 30 mins

As for quality of service once the roof is clean and the lichen is removed I have done what the customer has paid for a clean roof won't have any spores on it - they usually come from nearby trees or off lichen still growing on roof tiles

Just offering my experiences on the subject

Darran

agenda is to promote the chemical, i never reccomend anything untill i have tried it myself and made sure myself that it dont cause damage. which it should do as they use it on food plant machinery that has metal, plastics and rubber maybe glass depending on the machine i guess.

any salesman can tell you what you want to hear, but me like i like try it first and see for myself. 

yes i am hoping to supply it to. hence why i really want to give it a good testing.


with this the lichen was easy to remove, sprayed it on, waited and could rub off all of it with finger without much pressure, witch also kills any roots that are left behind within any scraches, or rubber seals, screw etc.



So you're a a qualified chemist and fully licened to test this product? F**ck S**e.


wtf????

the chemical has all ready been through all that as its been for sale for years! lol
im trying it out on how well it cleans the roofs etc!


Fair comment, but are you really qualified to guarantee that it won't cause a problem on plastic or glass conservatory roofs? You can't just spray some on and clean it and say it "looks ok" half an hour later! These companies spend a lot of money testing these products under strict guidelines making sure there are no come backs. (I do know) If it's a mate saying "give it a go" then fair enough, you may take a chance. You actually want to sell it and give a recommendation as to its quality then you need to be qualified. Why don't you just do all your testing and then promote it on the forum as a qualified product and just sell it?


it is uses are walls, floors, in kitchens on all aurfaces and on food plant machinery.  the place that will be supplying this to me has one more thats in the same range but stronger that is used in the weetabix factory on all there machinery!

you dont need to be quilified to sell this at all.

this is the 3rd one i have tried in the range and the others didnt touch lichen at the dilution rates that is stated on the product. they cleaned everything else and brought the upvc up well. but with this one at the dilutions that is says work well and thats what im testing mainly.


Sorry, but I read your reply twice to try and make sense of it. I rest my case!
"Thank you for calling: if you have a 1st floor flat, mid terraced house, lots of dogs, no parking, no side access, or no sense of humour, please press hold!
For all other enquiries, please press1"

R.C Property

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Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
« Reply #63 on: June 29, 2013, 09:23:36 pm »
So your agenda is to promote a chemical which by your posts indicate may effect the plastic because you won't name it ?

Or more cynically wish to sell it on at a profit ? Which isn't a problem either

Lichen is always hard to remove with or without chemicals by only using a brush.
I found that a nice piece of planed wood much better that all that scrubbing used with running water then I had a car port 40 foot by 15 foot ( totally covered in lichen) so I converted the end of my water fed pole to take a squeegee and hey pesto job. Done in under 30 mins

As for quality of service once the roof is clean and the lichen is removed I have done what the customer has paid for a clean roof won't have any spores on it - they usually come from nearby trees or off lichen still growing on roof tiles

Just offering my experiences on the subject

Darran

agenda is to promote the chemical, i never reccomend anything untill i have tried it myself and made sure myself that it dont cause damage. which it should do as they use it on food plant machinery that has metal, plastics and rubber maybe glass depending on the machine i guess.

any salesman can tell you what you want to hear, but me like i like try it first and see for myself. 

yes i am hoping to supply it to. hence why i really want to give it a good testing.


with this the lichen was easy to remove, sprayed it on, waited and could rub off all of it with finger without much pressure, witch also kills any roots that are left behind within any scraches, or rubber seals, screw etc.



So you're a a qualified chemist and fully licened to test this product? F**ck S**e.


wtf????

the chemical has all ready been through all that as its been for sale for years! lol
im trying it out on how well it cleans the roofs etc!


Fair comment, but are you really qualified to guarantee that it won't cause a problem on plastic or glass conservatory roofs? You can't just spray some on and clean it and say it "looks ok" half an hour later! These companies spend a lot of money testing these products under strict guidelines making sure there are no come backs. (I do know) If it's a mate saying "give it a go" then fair enough, you may take a chance. You actually want to sell it and give a recommendation as to its quality then you need to be qualified. Why don't you just do all your testing and then promote it on the forum as a qualified product and just sell it?


its uses are walls, floors, in kitchens on all surfaces and on food plant machinery.  the place that will be supplying this to me has one more thats in the same range but stronger, that is used in the weetabix factory on all there machinery!

you dont need to be quilified to sell this at all.

this is the 3rd one i have tried in the range and the others didnt touch lichen at the dilution rates that is stated on the product. they cleaned everything else and brought the upvc up well. but with this one at the dilutions that is says work well and thats what im testing mainly.


Sorry, but I read your reply twice to try and make sense of it. I rest my case!

what?? guess you cant read then! lol

robbo333

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Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
« Reply #64 on: June 29, 2013, 09:36:50 pm »
I guess it is getting late  ;D
"Thank you for calling: if you have a 1st floor flat, mid terraced house, lots of dogs, no parking, no side access, or no sense of humour, please press hold!
For all other enquiries, please press1"

ben M

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Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
« Reply #65 on: June 29, 2013, 09:39:35 pm »
S20?

R.C Property

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Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
« Reply #66 on: June 29, 2013, 09:41:53 pm »
I guess it is getting late  ;D

that too! still working now, looking after my daughter and trying to get something to eat! plus chatting on here and another forum! lol

and they say us blokes cant multi task! lol

R.C Property

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Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
« Reply #67 on: June 29, 2013, 09:44:08 pm »
S20?

no not that stuff, think that might eat through a plastic roof by guessing at what its name is!

ben M

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Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
« Reply #68 on: June 29, 2013, 09:48:29 pm »
selosol then  ;)

robbo333

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Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
« Reply #69 on: June 29, 2013, 09:56:36 pm »
I think you're mad trying to re-brand an existing product. But fair play to you for trying. If you genuinely think it's good then I'm willing to try it. Mad not to. Put me down for your first order.
"Thank you for calling: if you have a 1st floor flat, mid terraced house, lots of dogs, no parking, no side access, or no sense of humour, please press hold!
For all other enquiries, please press1"

ben M

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Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
« Reply #70 on: June 29, 2013, 09:59:13 pm »
I think you're mad trying to re-brand an existing product. But fair play to you for trying. If you genuinely think it's good then I'm willing to try it. Mad not to. Put me down for your first order.
he is not Dani J (bosh)

R.C Property

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Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
« Reply #71 on: June 29, 2013, 10:26:51 pm »
I think you're mad trying to re-brand an existing product. But fair play to you for trying. If you genuinely think it's good then I'm willing to try it. Mad not to. Put me down for your first order.

I'm not re-branding it as that's illegal unless you through loads of stuff.
I'm not changing it in anyway or adding anything to it. It comes to me in a sealed 5lt container and that's how it will go out,

All I'm doing is buying it trade from them and selling it on as a retailer.

Dani J

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Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
« Reply #72 on: June 29, 2013, 10:28:04 pm »
I think you're mad trying to re-brand an existing product. But fair play to you for trying. If you genuinely think it's good then I'm willing to try it. Mad not to. Put me down for your first order.
he is not Dani J (bosh)

Dani J (bosh) what you on about ? I know him but i am defiantly not him, i wish i was him though  :)

R.C Property

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Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
« Reply #73 on: June 29, 2013, 10:29:11 pm »
selosol then  ;)

That was one i did get told to try first by the supplier, but it didn't do as good job, but it did get rid of the normal green algee and brought the upvc up well

Dan crowther

Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
« Reply #74 on: June 29, 2013, 11:40:42 pm »
I think what you are trying to is good and your intentions are good but I think it's a mistake to come on ciu (you could get away with it on other forums maybe) and go about it the way you are. You came up with the remote controller idea yourself and although similar to other controllers you put it together yourself and marketed it as such...your vids and marketing were good. When it comes to products already on the market such as cleaning solution the usual thing would be to share your find so it can benefit all on the forum. The bosh magica 1 go fiasco is still fresh in people's memories so anything other than sharing a find and your onto a hiding to nothing. It would at least have been better for you to have done all your 'testing' before mentioning it if you weren't going to just do it out of helpfulness. When you talk about a product that can significantly improve our cleaning and reduce the effort taken then people naturally want to know straight away...especially when it comes to conny roof cleaning! Your withholding the info does you no favours with ciu members especially as you want to make money out of your find as a stockist/seller. When you have done your testing and decide to stock and sell can you really sell it cheaper than a local supplier when you factor in the postage? Maybe, I would doubt it though...another reason why when it comes to products already on the market it is best to share, to recommend, rather than the way you have gone about it. You are a top bloke and very helpful to others, this can be seen on the forums you are on...watch out you don't end up as Bosh did though!

JSMC

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Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
« Reply #75 on: June 30, 2013, 12:07:19 am »
ubix?

R.C Property

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Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs! New
« Reply #76 on: June 30, 2013, 12:19:54 am »
I think what you are trying to is good and your intentions are good but I think it's a mistake to come on ciu (you could get away with it on other forums maybe) and go about it the way you are. You came up with the remote controller idea yourself and although similar to other controllers you put it together yourself and marketed it as such...your vids and marketing were good. When it comes to products already on the market such as cleaning solution the usual thing would be to share your find so it can benefit all on the forum. The bosh magica 1 go fiasco is still fresh in people's memories so anything other than sharing a find and your onto a hiding to nothing. It would at least have been better for you to have done all your 'testing' before mentioning it if you weren't going to just do it out of helpfulness. When you talk about a product that can significantly improve our cleaning and reduce the effort taken then people naturally want to know straight away...especially when it comes to conny roof cleaning! Your withholding the info does you no favours with ciu members especially as you want to make money out of your find as a stockist/seller. When you have done your testing and decide to stock and sell can you really sell it cheaper than a local supplier when you factor in the postage? Maybe, I would doubt it though...another reason why when it comes to products already on the market it is best to share, to recommend, rather than the way you have gone about it. You are a top bloke and very helpful to others, this can be seen on the forums you are on...watch out you don't end up as Bosh did though!

thanks for that.
cost wise at the minute i can only find a few places thats selling it online, one place is just over £20 with postage and the other is just over £16.30 with postage. got to find out the exact price i can get if for, but i should be able to match or slightly beat the lowest price, but people might be able to pick it up from either me or the might have a supplier in there town then it would only be around £10 if not a little less.

not heard the story behind bosh, so dont know what happend there!

R.C Property

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Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
« Reply #77 on: June 30, 2013, 12:20:43 am »
ubix?

no not ubix.

this is from a company called selden.


rycalshaw

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Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
« Reply #79 on: June 30, 2013, 08:01:25 am »
this thread is getting really boring now, if your not going to tell people what it is until testing complete why not put the post on when testing IS complete and stop wasting everybodys time..