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Neil Gornall

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Apprenticeships
« on: January 11, 2013, 08:51:13 am »
Has anyone taken on an apprentice?
I just lost one of my employees (women trouble so moving away)   :o :(
I don't need a driver so age is not really an issue so was wondering about giving a youngster a go.

Its an attractive option financially as the government offer incentives although I would pay above what they suggest. £2.65 per hour is almost slave labour.

ascjim

Re: Apprenticeships
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2013, 03:12:59 pm »
I didn't know you could do a apprenticeship in window cleaning or another cleaning :-/ Its not like chippying or brick laying.

wfp master

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Re: Apprenticeships
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2013, 04:06:42 pm »
not this again no such thing.

Tom White

Re: Apprenticeships
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2013, 04:41:26 pm »
not this again no such thing.

Please start another post up discussing your views and let the people who've done this sort of thing help out.  I'll delete or remove any further disruptive posts that doesn't discuss the OP's original question; but serious, start another post discussing the demerits of calling this scheme an 'apprenticeship' and that way it'll stop this topic turning into a female dog fight.

R.C Property

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Re: Apprenticeships
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2013, 04:48:12 pm »
not this again no such thing.

there is actually, i was contacted by a place that deals with these and everything sounds great, was very tempted to go for it, but just didnt have the work there for 2 guys all the time,

could of taken him on get him on the glass for 2 days then 2 days leaflet or door knocking i guess!

here is one link that you could read a little more into it
http://www.apprenticeships.org.uk/Types-of-Apprenticeships/Retail-and-Commercial-Enterprise/Cleaning-and-Environmental-Services.aspx

R.C Property

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Re: Apprenticeships
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2013, 04:52:30 pm »
find attached a PDF file of the frame work.

Neil Gornall

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Re: Apprenticeships
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2013, 04:58:54 pm »
not this again no such thing.
I suppose you will be telling us next that the earth is flat, electricity is the devils work and scrim it the future  ;D


Neil Gornall

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Re: Apprenticeships
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2013, 05:01:44 pm »
not this again no such thing.

there is actually, i was contacted by a place that deals with these and everything sounds great, was very tempted to go for it, but just didnt have the work there for 2 guys all the time,

could of taken him on get him on the glass for 2 days then 2 days leaflet or door knocking i guess!

here is one link that you could read a little more into it
http://www.apprenticeships.org.uk/Types-of-Apprenticeships/Retail-and-Commercial-Enterprise/Cleaning-and-Environmental-Services.aspx

Thanks Richard, some useful links. I am seriously considering this as I can see lots of benefits for both me and someone looking to get into employment.
If the right youngster works out he will have a future working with me or take the skills to set up on their own.

R.C Property

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Re: Apprenticeships
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2013, 05:03:47 pm »
not this again no such thing.

there is actually, i was contacted by a place that deals with these and everything sounds great, was very tempted to go for it, but just didnt have the work there for 2 guys all the time,

could of taken him on get him on the glass for 2 days then 2 days leaflet or door knocking i guess!

here is one link that you could read a little more into it
http://www.apprenticeships.org.uk/Types-of-Apprenticeships/Retail-and-Commercial-Enterprise/Cleaning-and-Environmental-Services.aspx

Thanks Richard, some useful links. I am seriously considering this as I can see lots of benefits for both me and someone looking to get into employment.
If the right youngster works out he will have a future working with me or take the skills to set up on their own.


yes thats true, and you can teach them how you want it done as they will be fresh into it, and not someone that has done it before with someone else,
there are a lot of things they can do, even door knocking and gaining work can be done as part of there framework too!

wfp master

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Re: Apprenticeships
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2013, 05:47:40 pm »
not this again no such thing.

Please start another post up discussing your views and let the people who've done this sort of thing help out.  I'll delete or remove any further disruptive posts that doesn't discuss the OP's original question; but serious, start another post discussing the demerits of calling this scheme an 'apprenticeship' and that way it'll stop this topic turning into a female dog fight.
no need start another post this was discussed only about a month back.

wfp master

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Crystal-clear

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Re: Apprenticeships
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2013, 06:14:33 pm »
Yes I was on about this a while ago , I can't see how you can go wrong £2.65 an hour full time even send him canvassing all he needs is 1 job a day to break even ,

Tom White

Re: Apprenticeships
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2013, 06:15:22 pm »
Yes I was on about this a while ago , I can't see how you can go wrong £2.65 an hour full time even send him canvassing all he needs is 1 job a day to break even ,

No, that's ruddy slave labour.

dave0123

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Re: Apprenticeships
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2013, 06:26:47 pm »
£2.65 at least round it up to 3 quid  ;D
Dave.

Crystal-clear

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Re: Apprenticeships
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2013, 06:41:13 pm »
Yes I was on about this a while ago , I can't see how you can go wrong £2.65 an hour full time even send him canvassing all he needs is 1 job a day to break even ,

No, that's ruddy slave labour.

I know That's the main reson why I haven't looked into it I would have to pay more then thAt , I just got of the phone to them they make it sound really interesting , they go 1 day a week to collage and 4 days to you but you have to pay them for that day in collage too and a minimum of 30 hours a week, one of the problems is as most will be young they may not have a driving licence

dave0123

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Re: Apprenticeships
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2013, 07:06:55 pm »
at that age even if they did have a driving licence the cost of the insurance would be sky high.

However if you just looking for someone to tag a long with you all week to make things a little easier and make a little bit more profit it may be worth while. you could always give them a little but more as cash in hand.
Dave.

colin purewater

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Re: Apprenticeships
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2013, 07:09:33 pm »
Danny DMg  windows  has one

Says I'm thick for not having one

The mans got a point tbh  ::)
keep it simple

Crystal-clear

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Re: Apprenticeships
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2013, 07:13:39 pm »
What happens thou if you get annoyed with his bad performance lateness booking 2 days in 1 then not turning up can you just fire them ? They did say when I rang thAt if they mess around they have the same rights as any other emoyed person

R.C Property

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Re: Apprenticeships
« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2013, 07:16:36 pm »
What happens thou if you get annoyed with his bad performance lateness booking 2 days in 1 then not turning up can you just fire them ? They did say when I rang thAt if they mess around they have the same rights as any other emoyed person


Like with any college thing, you can talk to them and they can sort it out, at worst take them off it

Ben wood

Re: Apprenticeships
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2013, 08:51:50 pm »
Dont be so stupid aprentice my arse. they are trainee's Your hardly going to say hey guess what i worked realy hard and i am now a fully qualified window cleaner after going to colledge for two years. My god get a grip any div can clean windows