[richywilts]

Richy with all the canvasing you do have u ever been threatened yet? or any other window cleaners come up do you give u cr**P! .. Ive had quite a bit of it when cleaning usually idiots with dirty rags and bangers of cars.

Just wondered if u have had the same problem? ive not heard u mention it at all.


Sorry to change subject just curious really
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yeah had  bit of aggro from lad called peter from company called staybrite if u know them been going 20 years or so peters the son does round spital by three stags and neston think there from birkenhead but now speak to him when he realised i wasnt intimidated by him , i bought a round of someone i know who did a bit in bromboro only 20 jobs found out that he had been threatened off by gang of tradders but they have never threatened us they were even chatting away to one of my lads asking if had any jobs going

if i had any trouble im good mates with a lot of tough lads in ellesmere port id only have to make a few calls and id have back up in 15 minutes

[gewindows]

disagreeertiveness

Dont let Griffin see that.

[G Griffin]

disagreeertiveness

Dont let Griffin see that.

  Good un.
It's spelt right, it's just there's no such word.

[Don Kee]

if i had any trouble im good mates with a lot of tough lads in ellesmere port id only have to make a few calls and id have back up in 15 minutes
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Its probably quotes like that which give the impression of a want to be 'hard man'.
The guy asked if you'd ever had trouble, and rather than just say 'yeah, but nothing serious', you proceeded to tell him you have 'back up' etc....like your involved in gangs of new york!!

[bobplum]

i cant believe this thread is still going on

[dave0123]

yeah had  bit of aggro from lad called peter from company called staybrite if u know them been going 20 years or so peters the son does round spital by three stags and neston think there from birkenhead but now speak to him when he realised i wasnt intimidated by him , i bought a round of someone i know who did a bit in bromboro only 20 jobs found out that he had been threatened off by gang of tradders but they have never threatened us they were even chatting away to one of my lads asking if had any jobs going

if i had any trouble im good mates with a lot of tough lads in ellesmere port id only have to make a few calls and id have back up in 15 minutes

Yeah  i know who you mean, don't know him personal y but seen him about and other fella who runs it i think... bald fella.

i was just wondering really. ive had it a lot over the years dont see the problem myself usually charge twice as much and there still threatened by it lol

[richywilts]

if i had any trouble im good mates with a lot of tough lads in ellesmere port id only have to make a few calls and id have back up in 15 minutes

Its probably quotes like that which give the impression of a want to be 'hard man'.
The guy asked if you'd ever had trouble, and rather than just say 'yeah, but nothing serious', you proceeded to tell him you have 'back up' etc....like your involved in gangs of new york!!
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i wasnt saying im a hard man i said i have a lot of back up so i will not be threatened by other window cleaners who want to try and bully me off there patch because if i got any trouble that needed help id make a few phone calls n get it dealt with

[paul13]

if i had any trouble im good mates with a lot of tough lads in ellesmere port id only have to make a few calls and id have back up in 15 minutes

Its probably quotes like that which give the impression of a want to be 'hard man'.
The guy asked if you'd ever had trouble, and rather than just say 'yeah, but nothing serious', you proceeded to tell him you have 'back up' etc....like your involved in gangs of new york!!

i wasnt saying im a hard man i said i have a lot of back up so i will not be threatened by other window cleaners who want to try and bully me off there patch because if i got any trouble that needed help id make a few phone calls n get it dealt with
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Classic

[Don Kee]

if i had any trouble im good mates with a lot of tough lads in ellesmere port id only have to make a few calls and id have back up in 15 minutes

Its probably quotes like that which give the impression of a want to be 'hard man'.
The guy asked if you'd ever had trouble, and rather than just say 'yeah, but nothing serious', you proceeded to tell him you have 'back up' etc....like your involved in gangs of new york!!

i wasnt saying im a hard man i said i have a lot of back up so i will not be threatened by other window cleaners who want to try and bully me off there patch because if i got any trouble that needed help id make a few phone calls n get it dealt with
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Dude, i have respect for what you've done.
From what i gather you have done really well in a short space of time with a few set backs....

But seriously, cant you see how what your saying is making you come across...??

[richywilts]

yes it does make me sound like a wannabe hard man but ya missing the point that what im trying to say is  i will not allow the bully type window cleaners who prob threaten sole traders etc off there work because i could soon have a few big lads down and play them at there own game and see how they like it put it on there toes and give them a taste of what they go round giving so i dont feel intimidated by them and also im completely against the idea of idiots saying its my patch etc its a free world

[AuRavelling79]

Richy, please look in the mirror ...

If my grandfather clock had you for a pendulum I'd never have to wind it up.

[spongebob]

i dont really see how i can be too blame for them skiving tho, when u hire someone u put your trust in the especially wen there mates

This line from one of your replies above says everything about you. You cant even be bothered to reply to good advice. Then you still need to blame someone else.
If they are skiving it is because you havent structured their day and payscale to stop it happening.
I'm done with this thread and you.
You deserve to fail and probably will and it will still be the fault of others!

[rosskesava]

Richy, please look in the mirror ...

If my grandfather clock had you for a pendulum I'd never have to wind it up.

+1

Richy, you sound intimidated already as the event hasn't happened and may never happen.

Also, who are you convincing? Us or yourself?

[richywilts]

if i hadnt organised there day well they had finished work at approx 3.40pm which is when it goes dark, they then had two quotes to do and then i asked them to canvass as there was still 1hour 15mins left till they clock off so where have i gone wrong there with structuring there day

they are aware that if they run low on work they are this month especially to get off there arses and canvass or go and collect payments so.

maybe some of the "good advice" i dont agree with as you can see there has been a huge amount of posts on this thread and ive tried to reply to people whilst trying to defend myself so my apologies if ive not replied to every piece of advice given i have taken mental notes as i always do, i may not reply and acknowledge information but i take everyones views onboard hence the reason i post my problems on here so i can weigh up my options etc

[richywilts]

Richy, please look in the mirror ...

If my grandfather clock had you for a pendulum I'd never have to wind it up.

+1

Richy, you sound intimidated already as the event hasn't happened and may never happen.

Also, who are you convincing? Us or yourself?

not with you ross are you on about other window cleaners approaching me about there patch coz i did mention it happened a tall stedhead came on the bounce and i stood my ground with him im not giving up my work or my areas for no one, ive also recieved threats to blow up my vans and my mum n dad have had calls too and texts of other cleaners. so not sure what you mean by me being intimidated??

[gewindows]

Richy this is a deadly serious question. Okay. Im not taking the mick or trying to have a laugh. You don't have to answer it, it's fairly personal, but if you can it might help, or start to help you in understanding the people you manage.


What was your family life like when you were growing up?
Was your family either a single parent family, a dysfunctional family, was there possibly a divorce concerning your parents, is there a history of drug or alcohol use? Did one of your parents run off?

What brothers and sisters do you have? And what do they do for work or a career? What was your education like? Couldn't be bothered with it? Loved it, excelled and achieved well academically? Just figured it was a bind, did what you could but didnt really think trying at school was likely to bring results?


Also, how well do you deal with responsibility? I get the impression you want to be in a position of responsibility but that doesn't mean either you or anyone else is any good at it. Do you like to think you could be in a position of responsibility but whenever that seems to start to happen something seems to come along and screw it all up? Something that is entirely out of your control perhaps just always seems to come along and knock your plans on the head? Unexplainably.

Do you sometimes feel you just seem to be a victim of unfortunate circumstances?

Anyway, give it a go perhaps. I dont blame you if you dont want to, but if you do its a healthy start to trying to get to the bottom of some of your management issues.

[richywilts]

Richy this is a deadly serious question. Okay. Im not taking the mick or trying to have a laugh. You don't have to answer it, it's fairly personal, but if you can it might help, or start to help you in understanding the people you manage.


What was your family life like when you were growing up?

family life was great thanks grew up wanting for nothing mums been a urse dad was in insurance grew up on a lovely estate 4 bed detached house
Was your family either a single parent family, a dysfunctional family, was there possibly a divorce concerning your parents, is there a history of drug or alcohol use? Did one of your parents run off?

nope sorry parent rarely drank middle class/working class possibly

What brothers and sisters do you have? And what do they do for work or a career? What was your education like? Couldn't be bothered with it? Loved it, excelled and achieved well academically? Just figured it was a bind, did what you could but didnt really think trying at school was likely to bring results?
sisters also a nurse, i done quite well at school 3b's 3'c and 3'd even though i was naughty and most time on detention or report but was in top sets for everything


Also, how well do you deal with responsibility? I get the impression you want to be in a position of responsibility but that doesn't mean either you or anyone else is any good at it. Do you like to think you could be in a position of responsibility but whenever that seems to start to happen something seems to come along and screw it all up? Something that is entirely out of your control perhaps just always seems to come along and knock your plans on the head? Unexplainably.

yes this is true had a good number of misfortunes over last couple of years but hopefully all in the past now

Do you sometimes feel you just seem to be a victim of unfortunate circumstances?

well yes ive been a victim of two break ins that had a big effect in growth of my business which possibly made me depressed in the mean time

Anyway, give it a go perhaps. I dont blame you if you dont want to, but if you do its a healthy start to trying to get to the bottom of some of your management issues.

i do know how to get to the bottom of management issues i just find it hard sometimes carrying it out with them being my friends

hope this answers all your questions[/color]

[rosskesava]

not with you ross are you on about other window cleaners approaching me about there patch coz i did mention it happened a tall stedhead came on the bounce and i stood my ground with him im not giving up my work or my areas for no one, ive also recieved threats to blow up my vans and my mum n dad have had calls too and texts of other cleaners. so not sure what you mean by me being intimidated??

Sorry Richy, you did post you'd had problems before. My apologies. I was thinking that you hadn't had problems but were thinking about in case problems should arise.

[richywilts]

not with you ross are you on about other window cleaners approaching me about there patch coz i did mention it happened a tall stedhead came on the bounce and i stood my ground with him im not giving up my work or my areas for no one, ive also recieved threats to blow up my vans and my mum n dad have had calls too and texts of other cleaners. so not sure what you mean by me being intimidated??

Sorry Richy, you did post you'd had problems before. My apologies. I was thinking that you hadn't had problems but were thinking about in case problems should arise.

no probs mate

[gewindows]

Richy this is a deadly serious question. Okay. Im not taking the mick or trying to have a laugh. You don't have to answer it, it's fairly personal, but if you can it might help, or start to help you in understanding the people you manage.


What was your family life like when you were growing up?

family life was great thanks grew up wanting for nothing mums been a urse dad was in insurance grew up on a lovely estate 4 bed detached house
Was your family either a single parent family, a dysfunctional family, was there possibly a divorce concerning your parents, is there a history of drug or alcohol use? Did one of your parents run off?

nope sorry parent rarely drank middle class/working class possibly

What brothers and sisters do you have? And what do they do for work or a career? What was your education like? Couldn't be bothered with it? Loved it, excelled and achieved well academically? Just figured it was a bind, did what you could but didnt really think trying at school was likely to bring results?
sisters also a nurse, i done quite well at school 3b's 3'c and 3'd even though i was naughty and most time on detention or report but was in top sets for everything


Also, how well do you deal with responsibility? I get the impression you want to be in a position of responsibility but that doesn't mean either you or anyone else is any good at it. Do you like to think you could be in a position of responsibility but whenever that seems to start to happen something seems to come along and screw it all up? Something that is entirely out of your control perhaps just always seems to come along and knock your plans on the head? Unexplainably.

yes this is true had a good number of misfortunes over last couple of years but hopefully all in the past now

Do you sometimes feel you just seem to be a victim of unfortunate circumstances?

well yes ive been a victim of two break ins that had a big effect in growth of my business which possibly made me depressed in the mean time

Anyway, give it a go perhaps. I dont blame you if you dont want to, but if you do its a healthy start to trying to get to the bottom of some of your management issues.

i do know how to get to the bottom of management issues i just find it hard sometimes carrying it out with them being my friends

hope this answers all your questions[/color]

Yea, well that didnt come up with anything then did it. lol