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Steve Gunn

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Re: Dynam all
« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2012, 08:32:12 am »
I've had 1 customer who said the same Nigel, when it comes to fragrances you can never win.

Shaun

Your not wrong there alot of my customers said Surround was too strong but love Dynamall

Chris Straker

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Re: Dynam all
« Reply #21 on: November 27, 2012, 10:12:31 am »
Had feedback from the office manager at weekends job and he loved the smell ........... very pleased with results/feedback from bosses as well !!

Have to add the fact that the job went well and was 1.5 hours quicker over Saturday & Sunday ......... could be less soiling etc but have to put it down to Dynamall wrking on many stubborn marks, on first pass  ;D

JandS

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Re: Dynam all
« Reply #22 on: November 27, 2012, 02:35:40 pm »
Works out expensive for HWE, 1 litre per 10 litres of tank solution.
Why do you have to vac afterwards?
Not bad if bonneting.

John
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Simon Gerrard

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Re: Dynam all
« Reply #23 on: November 27, 2012, 08:06:40 pm »
Just been back to look at a job we did with Dynamal to see what it looked like and while the carpet looked great apparently some people had complained about the lingering smell, saying it had given them a headache. Can't please em all :'(

Dani J

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Re: Dynam all
« Reply #24 on: November 27, 2012, 11:13:43 pm »
Works out expensive for HWE, 1 litre per 10 litres of tank solution.
Why do you have to vac afterwards?
Not bad if bonneting.

John
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i second that, i had my 1st order arrived today, and it will my last.
I haven't used it yet but the price put me right off this product, its 40 ltr, at a price of £43.26 including v.a.t and delivery charge. if you do a 1 litter per 10 littler water dilution, i worked out for a largish size house it will cost me all of that £43.26 for pre spraying all the carpets, so for me personally tooooooooo expensive.

So i am out  ;D

Dani J

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Re: Dynam all
« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2012, 06:58:07 am »
Works out expensive for HWE, 1 litre per 10 litres of tank solution.
Why do you have to vac afterwards?
Not bad if bonneting.

John
[/quotyes

i second that, i had my 1st order arrived today, and it will my last.
I haven't used it yet but the price put me right off this product, its 40 ltr, at a price of £43.26 including v.a.t and delivery charge. if you do a 1 litter per 10 littler water dilution, i worked out for a largish size house it will cost me all of that £43.26 for pre spraying all the carpets, so for me personally tooooooooo expensive.

So i am out  ;D

Sorry i mean 4 ltr  :)

Russ Chadd

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Re: Dynam all
« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2012, 03:44:00 pm »
I have a commercial job coming up and i will be doing a proper comparison with Dynam all and surround free.
I like the smell of the Dynam all, though i can see why some people may find it a little overpowering!
I have to say that the perfume added to the Dry Fusion products is by far stronger and can really get on your chest when spraying.

Chris Straker

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Re: Dynam all
« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2012, 03:59:59 pm »
I re-checked with office manager and the comments about smell, were from floor I did on Sunday, there was no mention from Saturday's floor  :-X

Dani J

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Re: Dynam all
« Reply #28 on: November 28, 2012, 07:50:08 pm »
I have a commercial job coming up and i will be doing a proper comparison with Dynam all and surround free.
I like the smell of the Dynam all, though i can see why some people may find it a little overpowering!
I have to say that the perfume added to the Dry Fusion products is by far stronger and can really get on your chest when spraying.

I wouldn't bother Russ its too expensive.

AshWhite

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Re: Dynam all
« Reply #29 on: November 28, 2012, 08:46:11 pm »
Dani, I think it's right to say that while it can be used for HWE, its main use would be for encap via rotary/op, so it's on par with the competition.
Not a lot of money, when you take into account how much you can cover with a (US) gallon.
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Russ Chadd

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Re: Dynam all
« Reply #30 on: November 28, 2012, 09:00:41 pm »
I have a commercial job coming up and i will be doing a proper comparison with Dynam all and surround free.
I like the smell of the Dynam all, though i can see why some people may find it a little overpowering!
I have to say that the perfume added to the Dry Fusion products is by far stronger and can really get on your chest when spraying.

I wouldn't bother Russ its too expensive.

Whats too expensive?

Dani J

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Re: Dynam all
« Reply #31 on: November 28, 2012, 09:23:41 pm »
Dani, I think it's right to say that while it can be used for HWE, its main use would be for encap via rotary/op, so it's on par with the competition.
Not a lot of money, when you take into account how much you can cover with a (US) gallon.

on the bottle it say 1: 10 meaning for every 1 littler of this solution you add 10 littler of water, and i have a 10 litter spray which i use for pre spray the carpet which will covers about 2 large room to spray, so if you think about it 4 litter of this solution will only cover in average one large house for carpet cleaning with HW Extraction, which is around £43.00 so wouldn't you say that is expensive ?

AshWhite

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Re: Dynam all
« Reply #32 on: November 28, 2012, 09:28:47 pm »
Dani, either you or I have misunderstood the directions.

From the website:
Hot Water Extraction: Mix at 1-10 parts with water in truck mount / portable extractors for carpet or upholstery cleaning.
That is NOT prespray, but added to the rinse tank. I'm pretty sure that spraying an encap product only to rinse it out 5 minutes later would defeat the object, better to add it at rinse stage so it can go on working after you've left.

But as I said earlier, you'd be better off using it in this way:
Rotary Bonnet Encap Method: Mix 1-10 of warm water, reduce to 1-15 for regular maintenance work. Apply with sprayer. Scrub the carpet thoroughly making overlapping passes with a rotary bonnet (use appropriate pads for job) or use cylindrical brush machine. Rinsing is not required, simply vacuum at the next scheduled vacuuming interval.

1:10 means you get 11 litres of mix (1 litre water:10 litres solution). To use 11 litres in 2 rooms sounds very high to me (unless you mean 2 large commercial rooms??).
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Dani J

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Re: Dynam all
« Reply #33 on: November 28, 2012, 09:49:53 pm »
Dani, either you or I have misunderstood the directions.

From the website:
Hot Water Extraction: Mix at 1-10 parts with water in truck mount / portable extractors for carpet or upholstery cleaning.
That is NOT prespray, but added to the rinse tank. I'm pretty sure that spraying an encap product only to rinse it out 5 minutes later would defeat the object, better to add it at rinse stage so it can go on working after you've left.

But as I said earlier, you'd be better off using it in this way:
Rotary Bonnet Encap Method: Mix 1-10 of warm water, reduce to 1-15 for regular maintenance work. Apply with sprayer. Scrub the carpet thoroughly making overlapping passes with a rotary bonnet (use appropriate pads for job) or use cylindrical brush machine. Rinsing is not required, simply vacuum at the next scheduled vacuuming interval.

1:10 means you get 11 litres of mix (1 litre water:10 litres solution). To use 11 litres in 2 rooms sounds very high to me (unless you mean 2 large commercial rooms??).



Sorry Ash, I don’t use rotary to clean carpets I just use, pre spray, agitate with brush and then HW extraction, It still confusing because I didn’t buy this product to use as a rinse aid, in the tank of water.
I bought as for pre spray, so in this case its not good for HW extraction then, the point is, for mixing 1: 10 for 4 litter and for £43.00 in my book is expensive.

Russ Chadd

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Re: Dynam all
« Reply #34 on: November 29, 2012, 12:33:56 pm »
Dani

If you use it how it is intended to be used its not expensive.

Russ

Dani J

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Re: Dynam all
« Reply #35 on: November 29, 2012, 06:34:25 pm »
Dani

If you use it how it is intended to be used its not expensive.

Russ


Hi Russ

Well I used it for the 1st time today.
Basically I added 1 littler in to my Ninja carpet cleaning machine tank which is about 40 litter tank, and once I was using the machine I noticed that this product is foaming  a lot when it was coming out of the wand, I carried on cleaning anyway and I kept adding just pure water to the tank as I was cleaning but the it was still foaming when it was coming from the wand.

I noticed then I  had to empty the waist tank more often because of the foaming from this product.
So I am still confused as to why they say 1:10 ratio for cleaning but I cleaned a 2 bedroom house with just  1Ltr of this solution????

I must add that I still used pre spray  and agitation with my own microsplitter which I use usually any way.

The result was good and smell nice too.  :)

The only issue is that it foams a lot, so maybe I am doing something wrong?


JandS

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Re: Dynam all
« Reply #36 on: November 29, 2012, 07:23:58 pm »
 A 1:10 pre spray mix is going to work out expensive.
Especially when you consider other pre sprays.
I use M Power @ 1:100.
HD about 1:40.

John
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

Russ Chadd

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Re: Dynam all
« Reply #37 on: November 29, 2012, 07:32:38 pm »
Guys Dynam all is an encap product despite what is written on the instructions about using it in a extractor.
it is supposed to foam up that's the whole point!
Dani dont put it in your extractor unless you like to waste product and create lots of foam!
Take some advise, only fill your rinse water tank up with fresh clean water and maybe a little acidic rinse, if you are using the correct pre spray like a micro splitter then you would never need to put a detergent in the rinse water!

To be fair JandS, your using MPower and HD for bonneting which is a totally different method of cleaning compared to encapsulation.

Dani J

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Re: Dynam all
« Reply #38 on: November 29, 2012, 07:40:38 pm »
Guys Dynam all is an encap product despite what is written on the instructions about using it in a extractor.
it is supposed to foam up that's the whole point!
Dani dont put it in your extractor unless you like to waste product and create lots of foam!
Take some advise, only fill your rinse water tank up with fresh clean water and maybe a little acidic rinse, if you are using the correct pre spray like a micro splitter then you would never need to put a detergent in the rinse water!

To be fair JandS, your using MPower and HD for bonneting which is a totally different method of cleaning compared to encapsulation.


Yes  Russ I do use normal tap water for rinsing all the time any way, and the way I am using my microsplitter is the right way, so is this a pre spray or not?
on the bottle it say you can dilute it in the tank, so now you say not to do that ?

Any way i am not buying it any more.

Russ Chadd

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Re: Dynam all
« Reply #39 on: November 29, 2012, 09:11:00 pm »
Its a pre spray designed to be used with a rotary machine and a pad/bonnet.

1 You spray a mix of 1:15 (1 part solution to 15 parts water) lightly over the carpet
2 Rotary and pad over the carpet
3 Allow to dry
4 Post vacuum the crystallised soils

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