Cheers for the advice again guys, picked up a couple of carpet brushes today for £12 each brand new, I know what your saying jim but we've all got to start somewhere mate, budget was only a rough one anyway, just didn't really want to overshoot the budget by much, so that's it got everything i need, I done the ncca two day course for a old company I used to work for but I'm guessing I'll have to do the course again so I can advertise as ncca qualified with my own ncca number?