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Crystal-clear

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hose pipe ban , buying water?
« on: March 12, 2012, 11:55:37 pm »
is this poop for real, how long is it gona last for and what if im buying it not makin it :)?

Window Washers

  • Posts: 9036
Re: hose pipe ban , buying water?
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2012, 12:33:04 am »
is this poop for real, how long is it gona last for and what if im buying it not makin it :)?
I will sell you it  ;D I dont use a hose pipe  ;) but is up to you to bucket into your van
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

Re: hose pipe ban , buying water?
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2012, 07:41:02 am »
once it's been filtered its up to you how you move it, only prob is if hose pipe is connected to mains.

biggest prob in my eyes (esp as doesn't affect us yet anyway) is customers perception of us....

Londoner

Re: hose pipe ban , buying water?
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2012, 07:47:33 am »
It doesn't matter where the water comes from, its where you use it that counts. You can't drive water into a drought area and expect to use it. Once it enters the area its covered by the drought order.

Re: hose pipe ban , buying water?
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2012, 08:25:25 am »
It doesn't matter where the water comes from, its where you use it that counts. You can't drive water into a drought area and expect to use it. Once it enters the area its covered by the drought order.

nope, sorry old chap got to disagree on that one.

surely, as once it's been filtered, its classed as an 'altered substance',  once it's been filtered you can do as wish with it. isn't it at point of taking out of mains where the issue is? as opposed to where it is subsequently used..... I could be wrong!   ;)

Londoner

Re: hose pipe ban , buying water?
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2012, 09:10:35 am »
It doesn't matter where the water comes from, its where you use it that counts. You can't drive water into a drought area and expect to use it. Once it enters the area its covered by the drought order.

nope, sorry old chap got to disagree on that one.

surely, as once it's been filtered, its classed as an 'altered substance',  once it's been filtered you can do as wish with it. isn't it at point of taking out of mains where the issue is? as opposed to where it is subsequently used..... I could be wrong!   ;)

Having worked for the water board for seven years I think I should know a bit about it. The water board owns every drop of water within its area no matter where it is or how it got there. Technically even the water in the radiator of your car belongs to them. All these ideas like saying you got it from the rain butt or off a mate in the next town makes no difference.

Total shine cleaning services

  • Posts: 895
Re: hose pipe ban , buying water?
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2012, 11:28:26 am »
Manufactured water is not coming under the drought ban, it can be used for it's intended purpose, business's are exempt from the ban but only the ones that manufacture in house, you will not be breaking the law to power wash the drive but customer supplying the water to you will possibly be, all the windies out there who are on domestic meters will have to abide by the ban or ask to be put onto a business tariff

Graham

Gary nee

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Re: hose pipe ban , buying water?
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2012, 12:28:51 pm »
On Lookeast last night anglia water said window cleaners are fine.

sunshine windies

  • Posts: 232
Re: hose pipe ban , buying water?
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2012, 01:27:27 pm »
I called Anglia Water and the guy said essentially it is just scaremainering by the media, there is no need to worry  and we have not had a hosepipe ban in this area in many years

Trouble is i can just imagine the Daily Mail readers amongst my customers panicking and giving me an earache over this  ::)

Londoner

Re: hose pipe ban , buying water?
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2012, 04:36:57 pm »
We have had a hosepipe ban here and people were prosecuted, not many but a few were. The big danger is that you are too visible with bright yellow hoses all over the place. People keep saying "you are not supposed to use them" and theres alway the nosey old git who's going to report you.

Londoner

Re: hose pipe ban , buying water?
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2012, 04:46:10 pm »
I would also like to point out that most window cleaners are on domestic tarriff not business tarriff so are already on a sticky wicket having a RO connected to their water supply with or without a hosepipe ban. The thing is the water people aren't bothered all that much in normal circumstances.

But once a hosepipe ban, or even worse a drought order kicks in they turn into bloodhounds. Then they need a few scalps to show their bosses they are on the case.

niceandclean

  • Posts: 1897
Re: hose pipe ban , buying water?
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2012, 04:55:41 pm »
We have had a hosepipe ban here and people were prosecuted, not many but a few were. The big danger is that you are too visible with bright yellow hoses all over the place. People keep saying "you are not supposed to use them" and theres alway the nosey old git who's going to report you.

A woman from some water company was on the radio today, and she said that as far as she is aware, there has never been a prosecution bought upon a householder from a hosepipe ban.

Londoner

Re: hose pipe ban , buying water?
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2012, 05:05:12 pm »
We have had a hosepipe ban here and people were prosecuted, not many but a few were. The big danger is that you are too visible with bright yellow hoses all over the place. People keep saying "you are not supposed to use them" and theres alway the nosey old git who's going to report you.

A woman from some water company was on the radio today, and she said that as far as she is aware, there has never been a prosecution bought upon a householder from a hosepipe ban.

Thames water caught a few well publicised ones during the last ban. All using sprinklers as I recall. The thing we should be more concerned about is the fact that they have driven a lot of the old wheelie bin washers out of business. Don't know if they were fined or just threatened. We are an easy score for them. Van parked in a road with hoses all down the street

Crystal-clear

  • Posts: 3029
Re: hose pipe ban , buying water?
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2012, 08:12:00 pm »
so whats going to happen, the water im getting will be from a commercial unit , are you seriousley telling me we cant use water for what months?...

gavinb

Re: hose pipe ban , buying water?
« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2012, 10:56:17 pm »
It doesn't matter where the water comes from, its where you use it that counts. You can't drive water into a drought area and expect to use it. Once it enters the area its covered by the drought order.

nope, sorry old chap got to disagree on that one.

surely, as once it's been filtered, its classed as an 'altered substance',  once it's been filtered you can do as wish with it. isn't it at point of taking out of mains where the issue is? as opposed to where it is subsequently used..... I could be wrong!   ;)

Having worked for the water board for seven years I think I should know a bit about it. The water board owns every drop of water within its area no matter where it is or how it got there. Technically even the water in the radiator of your car belongs to them. All these ideas like saying you got it from the rain butt or off a mate in the next town makes no difference.

So in theory what your saying is if I took water out of a rain butt they own that water ?
I'm sorry but how can a company turn round and say  they "own" something that fell from the sky it's ludicrous . Also if I have paid for the water I own it end of

Londoner

Re: hose pipe ban , buying water?
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2012, 07:46:37 am »
It doesn't matter where the water comes from, its where you use it that counts. You can't drive water into a drought area and expect to use it. Once it enters the area its covered by the drought order.

nope, sorry old chap got to disagree on that one.

surely, as once it's been filtered, its classed as an 'altered substance',  once it's been filtered you can do as wish with it. isn't it at point of taking out of mains where the issue is? as opposed to where it is subsequently used..... I could be wrong!   ;)

Having worked for the water board for seven years I think I should know a bit about it. The water board owns every drop of water within its area no matter where it is or how it got there. Technically even the water in the radiator of your car belongs to them. All these ideas like saying you got it from the rain butt or off a mate in the next town makes no difference.

So in theory what your saying is if I took water out of a rain butt they own that water ?
I'm sorry but how can a company turn round and say  they "own" something that fell from the sky it's ludicrous . Also if I have paid for the water I own it end of
They have total legal control of all water in the area in which they operate and control all water and are responsible for the regulation of all waste. Also, your agreement with the water company via your household account only gives you the right to a tap effectively. They can still dictate to you how you use "their" water. eg can't water lawn, can't wash car, can't fill swimming pool etc. Its never your water in their eyes.


lee_dewing

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Re: hose pipe ban , buying water?
« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2012, 07:03:46 pm »
Intresting reading there Vince I belive what you say.

Just been reading on B.W.C.A webite more informative than N.F.W.

As i understand it will be O.K wfp under hose pipe ban, but obviously If situation worsens then will have to go back to ladders.
I know what you say about registered business users and most of us windies aren't :-[

I will do ladders if I have to, if there are any restrictions on window cleaning there after I would ignore as my home is at risk if I do not keep up the repayments :'(
Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work.     - Aristotle

Londoner

Re: hose pipe ban , buying water?
« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2012, 08:18:20 pm »
I will just go back to trad and a bit of sneaky use of the trolley on windows that can't be trad. I'm not worried about the money, I have savings but I would rather not dig into them.

Just another question for anyone who knows. Whats involved in registering with the water company as a commercial user of water and how much does it cost? This may be the time to go legit with the water company.

lee_dewing

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Re: hose pipe ban , buying water?
« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2012, 08:26:59 pm »
My thoughts to.

Anyone?
Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work.     - Aristotle

H S and Son

Re: hose pipe ban , buying water?
« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2012, 08:53:34 pm »
Just another question for anyone who knows. Whats involved in registering with the water company as a commercial user of water and how much does it cost? This may be the time to go legit with the water company.

You're the bloke that used to work for the water-board. We should be asking you that.