[L.J.Thorpe]

STOP WORRYING !!!! BUSINESS USE IS EXEMPT FROM HOSEPIPE BAN  !!!! END OF
Talk to your water company if you dont believe me (and plenty of you will not!!!!)

[AS Window Cleaning]

Just another question for anyone who knows. Whats involved in registering with the water company as a commercial user of water and how much does it cost? This may be the time to go legit with the water company.

You're the bloke that used to work for the water-board. We should be asking you that.

  read my mind!

I'm not sure about this, but think you have to pay to have it fitted, heard its around 100 quid, but will depend on water company. don't pay for sewerage if prove not going down drain, but don't know if its much cheaper in long run. but would make you more legit.

still stand by my comment that once water has been processed (filtered) its not classed as water in the water boards eyes, but as an altered product Vince 

[mike roberts]

STOP WORRYING !!!! BUSINESS USE IS EXEMPT FROM HOSEPIPE BAN  !!!! END OF
Talk to your water company if you dont believe me (and plenty of you will not!!!!)

Er we have rung them! According to Violia you can not use wfp Suggest you ring them... doesnt matter if you purify via fixed plumbing then transfer into tank can not use on domestic properties!

This has been talked about in the larger post

[Londoner]

Just another question for anyone who knows. Whats involved in registering with the water company as a commercial user of water and how much does it cost? This may be the time to go legit with the water company.

You're the bloke that used to work for the water-board. We should be asking you that.

Yes but I worked at the water treatment plant as a technician, didn't deal with accounts.

There are two sides to this issue, they are seperate.

The first is the purification process and whether you should be using a RO on your domestic supply, hosepipe ban or not. This has almost certainly never been Kosher but its been avoided up till now as an issue.

The second is how they interpret "the use of a hosepipe to clean windows"
Having looked at three water company websites, the actual wording is exactly the same on each website. Word perfect. So it all comes down to interpretation. This is where we get the variation it seems.

There is little point in ringing up the water company and speaking to some bod in the office because all you are going to get is the opinion of some bod in the office. The Water Inspectors if they catch you, will be a lot more knowledgeable and a lot more out to get a few scalps to show they are doing a great job. And before you ask, yes they can enter your house to inspect your set up and if they want to they can confiscate it. They do have that power but I can't imagine it would come to that.

[lee_dewing]

http://www.bwca.co.uk/news.html

Mile Roberts, have you seen this post before regarding hosepipe bans.

Would it be worth you talking to someone at BWCA or NFW.

I'm not saying your wrong in what you saying.

Just better to be double sure.

Are you going to stop using WFP now then?

Lee
All very confusing like the ladders are banned debate, lot of opinions not many facts.
Water board seems to be a case of the right hand doesn't know what the left hands doing

[Londoner]

http://www.bwca.co.uk/news.html

Mile Roberts, have you seen this post before regarding hosepipe bans.

Would it be worth you talking to someone at BWCA or NFW.

I'm not saying your wrong in what you saying.

Just better to be double sure.

Are you going to stop using WFP now then?

Lee
All very confusing like the ladders are banned debate, lot of opinions not many facts.
Water board seems to be a case of the right hand doesn't know what the left hands doing

I would advise everyone to print off a copy of that and keep it in their van. I know I will. But you sum it up exactly when you say one hand doesn't know what the other is doing. Should you get a tug having something to produce in writing will go a long way.

but we still have the issue of home purification on a domestic tarrif. That might not be quite so easy if they ask you about that.

The main thing is to make yourself invisible. Don't draw attention to yourself.

[David Lingard]

Ah crap...so i cant clean my own windows as im not a paying customer but i can clean others...

right, does anyone know a window cleaner?

 

[Londoner]

 does anyone know a window cleaner?

 

not a good one

[David Lingard]

ha!

[Roger Oakley]

I will just go back to trad and a bit of sneaky use of the trolley on windows that can't be trad. I'm not worried about the money, I have savings but I would rather not dig into them.

Just another question for anyone who knows. Whats involved in registering with the water company as a commercial user of water and how much does it cost? This may be the time to go legit with the water company.

Don't know what's involved for a commercial license as such, but we use stand-pipes from time to time, and both Thames and Three Valleys (Violia) state they won't issue stand-pipe licenses for not H&S reasons, so basically we can't clean any domestic drives, patios etc unless there is an H&S issue and from their web-sites using a hosepipe is out from the 5th April.

[mike roberts]

Roger just had phone call from veolia, they are looking into situation at mo with their legal team. I think they are going to change the ruling Or worse case Anglian will change their stance which will totally screw us.

I spoke to them this morning and asked 'If they are implementing current law...  how is it that Anglian are allowing businesses to continue to use hoses,  using the same law??'

Hope this works out
Mike

[Roger Oakley]

Roger just had phone call from veolia, they are looking into situation at mo with their legal team. I think they are going to change the ruling Or worse case Anglian will change their stance which will totally screw us.

I spoke to them this morning and asked 'If they are implementing current law...  how is it that Anglian are allowing businesses to continue to use hoses,  using the same law??'

Hope this works out
Mike

Hopefully so sense will be seen? For me it is Thames & Veolia that we deal with most, and both have the same stance at the moment, no hose-pipes.
Going to try my local MP, but don't know if I will get very far.

[Lee GLS]

I thought it was only veolia banning WFP, Thames valley say its ok

[mike roberts]

Roger just had phone call from veolia, they are looking into situation at mo with their legal team. I think they are going to change the ruling Or worse case Anglian will change their stance which will totally screw us.

I spoke to them this morning and asked 'If they are implementing current law...  how is it that Anglian are allowing businesses to continue to use hoses,  using the same law??'

Hope this works out
Mike

Hopefully so sense will be seen? For me it is Thames & Veolia that we deal with most, and both have the same stance at the moment, no hose-pipes.
Going to try my local MP, but don't know if I will get very far.

Trying to see ours 2mw! great minds eh

Will continue with recycling got to work in our favour just need bigger vans 
was looking at mosmatic fsc with recovery this morning.

[Roger Oakley]

Mike,
Spoke to Veolia this afternoon, they are having a meeting re all this, as it seems none of the water companies are singing from the same song sheet. I have put our concerns in email form which they are going to forward to the powers that be. They say it may take around 5 days for an answer, but agreed with me that a total ban would pretty much close my business which they don't think is fair and would also been seen harsh in this present climate.
I wait their answer's

[mike roberts]

Mike,
Spoke to Veolia this afternoon, they are having a meeting re all this, as it seems none of the water companies are singing from the same song sheet. I have put our concerns in email form which they are going to forward to the powers that be. They say it may take around 5 days for an answer, but agreed with me that a total ban would pretty much close my business which they don't think is fair and would also been seen harsh in this present climate.
I wait their answer's

nice one.. What would help is if everyone concerned contacted veolia with concerns plus local mp