[GDwindowcleaning]

You talk about standing orders like they going to stay for life, they are easy to cancel so its no tie or guarantee....

How long have you been going richard?

[KS Cleaning]

I reckon your 2 man van should doing about £400 a day mate unless your prices are a bit low?
When I worked for a local guy, his work was a little underpriced but I was still averaging over  £200 a day on me Todd!  
There's no way I'd consider taking on two guys If they could only earn that between them chap

Hi Mark. My prices are quite low, I am in the process of increasing them. 95% of my work is domestic, and the prices are competitive in my area.
I think the 2 man van would only be able to achive £200 a day, so after wages id be making £100 on that van a day. (unless i got bigger bette priced work for them)

The £100 that you make will quickly be swallowed up by overheads and at these figures you have quoted it will actually cost you money to put a second van on the road.

You reckon? So £500 a week after wages, you think that will all be swallowed?

More or less yes,firstly,do you actually have enough work for the two men to do £200 a day 5 days a week,if not you will not have £500 to begin with.The outlay of buying and running a van.If I were you I would just run the 1 van with yourself +2, especially as you are trad

[Richard iSparkle]

Richard is right it can be done but u missed the point of having a helper.
my point was to the guy that started this thread that a big van with a big tank with the three of them working from it would be from my experience a much better idea than buying another van with all the extra expense that would bring.
Also fantastic returns can be made with the right compact well priced work when some people points this out they get shot down in flames but it's true.

i've not had the experience of 3 workers working well, but we just follow the concept2o model.

to be sure, you need to absolutely nail the profitably of 1 van before you start to invest in another.  by the time we get a 2nd van the 1st will be max'd out 7 days a week  

[Richard iSparkle]

You talk about standing orders like they going to stay for life, they are easy to cancel so its no tie or guarantee....

How long have you been going richard?

been going 18 months in window cleaning.

SOs are not a guarantee, but they certainly mean the bulk of clients are thinking long term about the arrangement.  some poeple will say, i dont want to set up a standing order as i only want you for a couple of months...

[GDwindowcleaning]

So you going to do 14k a month 7 days a week?

[Lee Pryor]

I love going out for the evening to come back and see a thread like this.

to answer a some previous questions our average price is £20 and a team of 2 would do 25-30 houses a day. they start at 8.30 and finish at 4.30-5. 1000L tank.

And yes we are domestic. dont care who thinks its bs at all. I run my business the way I do, and others can run theirs how they do.

oh and leave the franchise fella alone, there is nothing wrong with buying a franchise. Some of the largest and most sucessfull businesses in the world are franchises.

[Richard iSparkle]

So you going to do 14k a month 7 days a week?

in truth not really.  i guess that at 1000 clients we'll get a new van.  wont work regualr cleans on weekends.

[GDwindowcleaning]

Leave the franchise fella alone lee? Sorry I didnt realise I had to ask your permission to have a discussion on here... I am just intrigued and wanting to learn about all aspects of the business...

[Justen Uff]

Richard, you are a nightmare read, honest.

[Richard iSparkle]

Richard, you are a nightmare read, honest.

Mr Uff, that sentence doesnt even make sense 

[GDwindowcleaning]

How many customers do you have at the moment richard?

[Richard iSparkle]

How many customers do you have at the moment richard?

just 400+

[GDwindowcleaning]

I am not trying to pick holes richard but if you have 400 customers why on earth are you rushing around doing 50 in a day?

[Richard iSparkle]

I am not trying to pick holes richard but if you have 400 customers why on earth are you rushing around doing 50 in a day?

its a changeover period right now so needed to get through work as we're changing schedules etc.  before that i was doing up to £370 / day on my own so that i could have days off in office.

my new WC will be working on his own for the next couple of months until i need to go on the van again.

[GDwindowcleaning]

Sorry I am confused, when will you need to get back on the van?

[Richard iSparkle]

Sorry I am confused, when will you need to get back on the van?

when we want to push over £360 / day i;ll need to go on the van again, or employ someone else...  probably the 1st option tho 

[GDwindowcleaning]

So you going to sit in your office or canvass and build?  :

[Richard iSparkle]

So you going to sit in your office or canvass and build?  :

i run 2 businesses.  one window cleaning, one domestic cleaning.  i have a manager who runs both day to day, she's going off on maternity leave in 4 weeks...  so for the next 4 months i;m office based managing the business, and will get canvassing as much as i can.  when she's back hopefully mostly canvassing again until i can afford to get some canvassers in to do it for me

[GDwindowcleaning]

I spoke to Julie a while ago, just looked through the info she sent me amd the forecast suggests picking up 100 customers a month. Now I wouldnt have much problem doing that as I am a canvasser but for someone coming into the business I just think its unrealistic. If you have been going 18 months with 400 customers it proves my point....

[Richard iSparkle]

I spoke to Julie a while ago, just looked through the info she sent me amd the forecast suggests picking up 100 customers a month. Now I wouldnt have much problem doing that as I am a canvasser but for someone coming into the business I just think its unrealistic. If you have been going 18 months with 400 customers it proves my point....

it doesn't prove anything to be honest.  i'm not following the sales plan that julie sets out.

on top of that we had a fire 4 months in that destroyed everything in both my businesses and set us back