[supernova77]

Not everyone you sign up would want it cleaning on the next day?? You couldn't canvass and schedule cleans on behalf of the window cleaner it would become a nightmare.

I don't mean sign up a customer to a specific contract, but explain to them that you are canvassing on behalf of XYZ Window Cleaning and you need them to sign the form so that you can pass their details on to the window cleaner and cleaning can commence... It would weed out any messers as they would be hesitant about signing.

Andy

[GDwindowcleaning]

Yes but no need for contracts if they going to have them done the next day, why wouldnt a customer on the door say yes to tomorrow? In my experience if they genuine then they say yes, you do get the occasional person say next time but the cleaner wouldnt have to pay for it till next time so not an issue....

I have built my own round from scratch so know all the pitfalls but trying to answer them all from day one....

[supernova77]

Yes but no need for contracts if they going to have them done the next day, why wouldnt a customer on the door say yes to tomorrow? In my experience if they genuine then they say yes, you do get the occasional person say next time but the cleaner wouldnt have to pay for it till next time so not an issue....

I have built my own round from scratch so know all the pitfalls but trying to answer them all from day one....

What I mean is it would weed out any messers who only wanted 1 clean... They would be hesitant about signing a piece of paper which stated a price and frequency... You could still get messers saying yes to a clean the next day, and then saying no to the 2nd clean a month later.

I don't think any method is full proof... But as you said in a previous post trust is very important between canvasser and window cleaner, if there is trust and honesty on both sides then any problems can be ironed out.

I've built my own business from scratch to... The good thing about building your own round is that you can spot a messer a mile off!

Andy

[supernova77]

Also... You could charge double for first cleans... I've started doing that myself now...

Worst case scenario is the window cleaner would still break even after 1 clean!

Andy

[GDwindowcleaning]

If they just a timewaster who wants a one off but agrees to whats said on the door then would happily not charge for that job, but i would have the customers details so would contact them to confirm. If its my fault no fee, if its cleaners fault due to poor clean or damages or something random like gates left open etc then i would expect first clean fee.

What i am trying to put together has never been done and has to be fair both ways, so i will be fair but its a zero tolerance if the cleaner trying to get away with things. I would keep full records of all jobs and will contact all cancellations.

Anyone who is happy and looking to build a long term working relationship should be happy with these terms....

[GDwindowcleaning]

No need to charge double if done right on the door, will just put people off and scare them away. Its a very simple transaction and should be kept that way, no need to make it complicated.....

[supernova77]

Not trying to make it complicated, just giving ideas...

At the end of the day canvassing for someone else is a bit of a mine field for both parties involved... The way you are suggesting still has all the same flaws as how other canvassing companies currently operate, its just the steps you put in place might help a bit, although would probably introduce other problems.

Perhaps commercial canvassing is the way to go... It would be easier to sign up a commercial client to an actual contract and then charge the window cleaner a % of the contract value? This kind of service might appeal to smaller contract cleaning companies to?

Andy

[GDwindowcleaning]

Have seriously thought about the commercial route but i have purely concentrated on domestic, thats not saying i couldnt turn my hand to it. Do commercial sign up to a contract? Would have thought it harder than domestic

[supernova77]

Lol. anybody who needs canvassing doing must have time on there hands..go out and get your own customers...being a peoples person is a key to have being a window cleaner.
people who pay x2 and x3 for canvassed work are mugs as it is easy to find some1 willing todo it for less than 1 clean. most window cleaning canvassers are window cleaners who couldnt hack it anyway (messers), If not then why are they not building up massive empires and employing cleaners to earn big bucks in the long term instead of comeing on here touting for work past midnight for a quick money fix???

What a stupid post... Perhaps you typed it in your sleep?

Done the right way a good canvassing company could build up long term relationships with various window cleaners, so it wouldn't be just some quick money fix, its a business offering a valuable service.

Andy

[supernova77]

Have seriously thought about the commercial route but i have purely concentrated on domestic, thats not saying i couldnt turn my hand to it. Do commercial sign up to a contract? Would have thought it harder than domestic

I don't think the majority of guys on here with commercial work sign customers up to a contract?

However, I know some who do... And I think it should be the industry norm.

Commercial clients sign contracts for other services like IT systems, contract cleaning etc... So why not window cleaning?

Andy

PS. I'm off to bed now 

[GDwindowcleaning]

Mike deleted all his posts from here last night lol

[GDwindowcleaning]

So who would use a canvassing service if the deal was right?

[Crystal-clear]

i personaly wouldnt not at 200% over 2 cleans its just to much, someone might be willing to thou.

[Steve CM]

So who would use a canvassing service if the deal was right?

Only if you signed them up for 3 months

 

[Crystal-clear]

So who would use a canvassing service if the deal was right?

Only if you signed them up for 3 months

 

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with a 100% first clean charge

now those 2 things will truley pre filter the messers.

[GDwindowcleaning]

100 percent first clean charge?

How much do you expect people to work for then crystal? 2 cleans guaranteed my way is cheap work...

[Crystal-clear]

100 percent first clean charge?

How much do you expect people to work for then crystal? 2 cleans guaranteed my way is cheap work...

its alright mate, as i say most would tax people 200% upfront you at least are saying over 2 cleans,
i would have taken you on maybe 15 months back at this stage im quite busy and would only consider decent offers.

break it down then

so you will go out and price first cleans at normal value easy pick ups not extra for first right?
cancelations on first clean cleaner still pays you 100%? or negotiable?
cancelations on 2nd clean cleaner still pays you 100%? or negotiable?

[GDwindowcleaning]

I will go out and knock and book in say 150 for next day, you then clean them the next day, say 2 cancel on the day or overnight at 10 each. You then pay me 130. In 4 weeks time you clean them again, and only pay for whatever cleans again.  So you only pay for the customers that stay on. The only other extra are expenses on the day.

These are non negotiable as i am waiting to be paid and have a load of extra work checking cancellations etc...

You wont buy cheaper work anywhere....

[Crystal-clear]

I will go out and knock and book in say 150 for next day, you then clean them the next day, say 2 cancel on the day or overnight at 10 each. You then pay me 130. In 4 weeks time you clean them again, and only pay for whatever cleans again.  So you only pay for the customers that stay on. The only other extra are expenses on the day.

These are non negotiable as i am waiting to be paid and have a load of extra work checking cancellations etc...

You wont buy cheaper work anywhere....

so say you pull a grand all cleaned then say 300 drops out cleaner pays you 700 and so on for next yea thats a decent deal.

[GDwindowcleaning]

Its as fair as i can make it, you only pay for what cleans, it will work well if everyone honest. I will be calling all cancellations though to check the reasons.