[niceandclean]

If i was going to do it i would be honest and write everything down, no point putting in rubbish as i would only get paid on work completed. I am going to try and change peoples perceptions of this. Will only take payment once been done, then next payment after been done the dollowing month. Yes there will be cancellations and issues but if dealt with correctly then the value of the good work will far out value the bad. It will still be cheaper than buying existing work.....

And anyone that gets more than 200 with 2 people is just putting anything through.

Quality not quantity.....

If you were going to do it like that, i would be charging 3 times the clean, and any expenses i would get paid up front after you have canvassed the work. Its a business, and its a hard business as well, so to make it worth while you need to be charging.

[GDwindowcleaning]

I just want it to be fair both ways, what worries me most is getting paid in month two. I just know I am going to get turned over at some point and dont want this to get nasty.

You think people would pay first three cleans?

If done right i could be out next week....

[niceandclean]

Yeah i do. If your going to offer something different, ie in the way of staging the payments, then i think 3 x would be more than fair. You will get messed about by a few i have no doubt in that, so make it worth your while.

[GDwindowcleaning]

I suppose they only paying for the good customers that will go on to be long term earners so sounds fair. Also this way i dont have to guarantee work as they only pay for work thats cleaned...

[Crystal-clear]

3x is way to much , u wont have any cleaners even 2 times is alot.

[GDwindowcleaning]

Why is two cleans alot? Where can you buy work cheaper? I appreciate canvassing not to everyones taste but why should i work for less?

[niceandclean]

2 cleans is not a lot, and for what you will be offering, 3 times is not a lot.

[GDwindowcleaning]

I am talking about creating a game changer here, a way to access canvassing services with 100% no risk....

I dont think i will go for three cleans to be honest, i think 2 cleans plus decent expenses is fair enough....

[niceandclean]

Well if you do it, Good luck, let us know how you get on in 6 months.

 

[GDwindowcleaning]

I am doing it with the two local guys, i know i can trust them. But always on the look out for work, willing to travel anywhere too. Think i should be busy as risk free.....

[GDwindowcleaning]

So just out of interest, would people be interested in the terms as stated earlier in the post?

[daniel worgan]

So just out of interest, would people be interested in the terms as stated earlier in the post?

YES.....

[GDwindowcleaning]

Thats the best response i could have hoped for lol

[Crystal-clear]

Maybe but You would have to narrow it down more,

first clean customer pays cleaner £20 for a first clean you get £20, 2nd clean customer pays cleaner £20 for 2nd clean you get £20 3rd clean customer cancels you are out with 200% , cleaner has made 2x running costs losses and worked for nothing what would you do in these situations?

10 of these and your cleaner may/will get anoyed,and start cherry picking your work to the point that he is almost aggressive telling customers its minium 6 cleans please let me know before i clean , then you get pop central of 50% before the first clean.

you gota work out a rate/deal that aint to much to window cleaner and a rate that keeps u in work all year round u prob will get a few customers charging 200% over 2 cleans but i dont think people will be biting as hard if it was cheaper.

end of the day a window cleaner could simply employ his own canvasser and give him say £3 per lead any decent doorknocker should pull 4 leads an hour, half of these will be jobs it works out alot cheaper then 200% the cleaner might get a plooder who doesnt do his reknocks or make knock sheets so work will be all over the place rather then more compact but still. alot cheaper and its all a numbers game

so the trick is you offer a more professional approach naturally for more then a random but why would a cleaner employ his own if you can offer him a decent deal is 200% a decent offer? that you would have to confirm with others people who are desperate will take you on but would they use you again and again i dont know,

i guess if someone is prepaid to give you 100% 2 times and understand he may have 45% left by the time you are out then fine

you defo are being more open minded, i think you aint far from it , rather then taking money upfront then refunding you are only charing for what comes on i still think thou with running costs 200% a bit to much for all year round work however you will have the edge over many and someone will give you a try!

[GDwindowcleaning]

I couldnt do it any cheaper, if a window cleaner was being that aggresive i wouldnt want to work with them any more. As a canvasser i cannot guarantee a customer is going to stay on board for life. Customers cancelling is going to happen, thats a fact but overall in value of business gained over the year i defy anyone to show me a cheaper way of getting work. Yes they could employ their own canvassers but if it was that easy everyone would have their own already but its not that easy to find good quality canvassers.

Its a choice each person has to make but i really believe this is the best option on the market at the moment....

[Crystal-clear]

im with you on that one, ive dumped 3k leaflets with 3 jobs


canvassing works much better,if your stick rate is high u should be ok, its just such a bloody mistery till its cleaned again and again!

i do now thou use a different tactic it filters out customers like hell i love it

its basically offering everyone a one off then asking them if they want to go regular for the reduced price if they are happy with the work, works a treat pick up rates not as high but the stick rate is into the 85%s

[tom cronin]

I never really have any problems with refunds/cancelations ,  when it's my own canvassing, but hit a few problems when employing people, not sure id have more than one person in with me again, not worth headaches

[GDwindowcleaning]

So you go in high advertising one offs? Then offer a discount to carry on? We just offered a decent regular service at a good price and had a retention rate over 75%.

From what i have seen on here i think alot of work is lost from window cleaners not doing a good job or being over keen. I think all the talk of trying to sign people up to contracts or even hinting that they must commit for life scares the hell out of people.

[supernova77]

I think the only way forward is for the canvassing company to "sign up"  customers on the door... i.e. the customer actually signs a sheet of paper agreeing price and frequency.

On the window cleaners side staged payments could work if the window cleaner signed a contract stating that all work was the property of the canvassing company until all payments had been met.

I'm actually thinking of offering canvassing services myself... Have been thinking about it for some time.

Andy

[GDwindowcleaning]

You cant sign up window cleaning customers to a contract, if its done my way then i with my team would knock on doors on a monday and be cleaned and collected on a tuesday. My first fee then becomes due. Then its cleaned a month later and my second fee becomes due. If it dont clean then no fee so no risk, if anyone interested just let me know.