[GEMclean services]

if you know there is a window cleaner doing it for beer money does it get on your nerves and should you shop him ?

i pay tax so why shouldnt he especially when hes charging £3 per house leaving me with no chance of getting the work with wfp you get the phrase "i only pay £3 every 2 weeks" yeah buy hes not paying tax and hes spreading your neighbours crap onto your glass hes also leaving your frames black and dents in your lawn and if he falls of the ladder get your cheque book out hes on your property you should have ladder ties for him installed

[cozy]

What do you think?

[Pope vader]

so what, its called free enterprise, its up to the custy who they want to employ, if they want to employ some one doing a crap job, then it is up to them,  get better custys who will pay you what you think you are worth

i was having a discussing with a window cleaner in the chipy before who was telling me that wc is a skill and is sick of all these new people starting up and taking work off him

[james51174]

i mentioned this on another thread a few weeks back and got shot down in flames...i was told to stop moaning, and if i cant adapt my business to compete with these types, then i should give up window cleaning!!!!

for what its worth...i agree with you....£3= a house is worse money than working in a supermarket with holiday/sicness pay....but if your signing on....then its nice pocket money!!!!

these types usually start in the spring and think wc is all good....but 90% of them pack up in the winter, due to a lack of balls to cope with cold hands lol

trouble is....by then, the damage is done to the rest of us

[cozy]

Does it really effect that many? If you have people who don't care about the points GEMclean made, what are you missing out on? Custies that would swap WC's for 50p etc. Good custies are worth 20 times that. These type of guys can't damage a properly run and built business.

[Mike_G]

If he's only charging £3 per house perhaps he's not earning enough to pay tax

[cozy]

If he's only charging £3 per house perhaps he's not earning enough to pay tax

Good point, who knows?

[GEMclean services]

i took an estate on because the cleaner had two scallys climbing ladders breaking tiles in roofs under windows he then turned up with poles trying to get them back waving them side to side and as for free enterprise its not free were paying the dole cheats to do it, go to poundland get a bucket and tools WOW im a window cleaner mum !!!

and who in the right mind would trapes about all day climbing walls over gates for £3 obviously not someone paying bills council tax £100 per month thats 33 houses before tax
and customers sometime dont have a choice because of the "its my round " idea F*ck that ill work anywhere and try someone stop me tell the guy in the chippy next time you see him get a uniform and try advertising stop whinging if a new guy takes his work

"HES OBVIOUSLY NOT THAT GOOD PAL"

[cozy]

Sorry mate, can't understand that 

[GEMclean services]

If he's only charging £3 per house perhaps he's not earning enough to pay tax

you pay tax no matter what you earn you claim it back at the end of the year like the rest of us hes charging £3 to stay off the radar he obviously hasnt got a real job because he would be doing it unless its a weekend thing then he definately is earning enough to pay tax as it is a second job

[cozy]

So if he paid tax, depending on his main earnings, how much would be left from 3 quid?

[GEMclean services]

basically cosy if they didnt charge £3 customers would have to pay what the job is worth so if the £3 none tax payers were not around we would have more customers and the £3 men would prob have jobs with us however they dont pay tax and ruin it for us trying to earn a crust and pay tax

[andyatkinson]

wow, so pent up

[james51174]

Does it really effect that many? If you have people who don't care about the points GEMclean made, what are you missing out on? Custies that would swap WC's for 50p etc. Good custies are worth 20 times that. These type of guys can't damage a properly run and built business.

it has effected us massively

not just losing work...but word gets around...and customers start to moan about what we charge

"there is a friend of mine who only pays £6= for there house" etc

even if they dont want to use the cheap guy, they still use the info to get your price down

[GEMclean services]

well if he earned £3 per house at 30 houses a month less 20% tax £72

[stuart mc]

shouldn't assume they aren't paying tax just because they only charge £3.00, I know lots of legitimate window cleaners that charge that and pay their tax and some of them are pretty good shiners as well.

Don't get me wrong I wish they would put their prices up but it is up to them at the end of the day.

and I Know the lad that cleans my street, he pays tax, has insurance and a license and still only charges £3.50 a house so don't tell me it can't be done, he has a newish 4x4 bought and paid for, lives in a nice house in a nice area, oh and he does it all off a ladder

[cozy]

If it's an issue with you GEM, then surely this must have a massive effect on all windies who pay tax and play by the rules?

[GEMclean services]

lol i dont need to cock fight about work i just completed a builders clean on burger king trafford centre pal  

im mad at paying tax and guys ruining the trade for us

[GEMclean services]

lol i dont need to cock fight about work i just completed a builders clean on burger king trafford centre pal  

im mad at paying tax and guys ruining the trade for us

sorry you lost me

[andyatkinson]

if they did 30 houses a month at £3 they wouldnt have crossed the tax threshold by a long way!