[cozy]

Now I'm confused  

[GEMclean services]

any serious window cleaner knows this is true so the defenders on here are obviously guilty of it tax is the law pay it if a guy can charge £3 per house good luck to him but the ones who dont pay tax this is aimed at them so please dont bring guys working off ladders into this good for them but it must be a second job because no one can live on that type of money

[GEMclean services]

if they did 30 houses a month at £3 they wouldnt have crossed the tax threshold by a long way!

they wouldnt be crossing any threshold on that rate this is the point they dont work they claim dole they couldnt afford to pay for the threshold on a house to cross on that money never mind to pay tax

[Pope vader]

i took an estate on because the cleaner had two scallys climbing ladders breaking tiles in roofs under windows he then turned up with poles trying to get them back waving them side to side and as for free enterprise its not free were paying the dole cheats to do it, go to poundland get a bucket and tools WOW im a window cleaner mum !!!

and who in the right mind would trapes about all day climbing walls over gates for £3 obviously not someone paying bills council tax £100 per month thats 33 houses before tax
and customers sometime dont have a choice because of the "its my round " idea F*ck that ill work anywhere and try someone stop me tell the guy in the chippy next time you see him get a uniform and try advertising stop whinging if a new guy takes his work

"HES OBVIOUSLY NOT THAT GOOD PAL"

this is how most window cleaners started,  do it for  a few years then go get a wfp system and then moan about tradders nicking all there work,

the bloke was losing work as he is crap,  i have took work off him,  

[cozy]

Look mate, you sound a bit upset here. I'm trad, I pay tax, I'm VAT registered too. I have part time tax dodgers working a very limited custy base. I'll sing you a song about it if ya like. But these guys are all over the place. So they effect all of us. Work through it like we do.

[BORBRYCE]

you pay tax no matter what you earn you claim it back at the end of the year like the rest of us
You don't pay tax whatever you earn, you have to reach a certain limit, and nor do you claim it back if you do.
Are you actually in business? You seem to have a vague view of it all and don't seem to know the facts too well to me. Also, national insurance is paid monthly and then 9% of any profit, did you know of this? you never mentioned it if you did. Which seem's strange.

[Pope vader]

u get it in all trades, nothing you can do about it,  except look after you own business,  i use to get really annoyed when i lost work and took it personal, now i dont care,  if i aint making enough i go and get more work

[GEMclean services]

yeah i get that there always going to be around but if we do nothing about it then its us who suffer typical british mentality keep calm and carry on

[andyatkinson]

thats exactly what i was saying, they wouldnt be earning enough to pay tax anyway on your figures, as long as they filled in a tax return etc thats legal, benefits etc is different, but you dont know everyones circumstances, i just think you should relax a bit, maybe take a holiday, unless they'd take your round while your gone

[cozy]

GEM, not trying to wind you up, but if and when you have more work than you can handle, these guys at 3 quid just don't appear on your radar.  Build it up and they can't really do that much damage to your biz mate. Know how you feel, but that's the way this game is sometimes. You know that.

[GEMclean services]

you pay tax no matter what you earn you claim it back at the end of the year like the rest of us
You don't pay tax whatever you earn, you have to reach a certain limit, and nor do you claim it back if you do.
Are you actually in business? You seem to have a vague view of it all and don't seem to know the facts too well to me. Also, national insurance is paid monthly and then 9% of any profit, did you know of this? you never mentioned it if you did. Which seem's strange.

sorry are you in Britain you declare to the inland revenue all of your earnings if yuou dont tell them or pay them how do they know if you cross it just on sheer good will haha  they issue you a tax code you pay tax to the revenue if you dont cross the tax code you get a rebate that is the system if you get a differnt one then your not in britain pal

also national insurance is paid when you like its voluntary to self employed they send you an invoice asking you to pay to qualify paye is paid by employers

[GEMclean services]

im not worried about taking my work it s more about getting more work people have had these guys for years i had one woman call us to clean but still paid her old guy because hed been doing it years then when i took out a scraper and cleaned off some paint he said he couldnt do she was amazed lol i was amazed he said he couldnt remove it

[Erithwc]

i think some one's been drinking    hahaha    

[GEMclean services]

thats exactly what i was saying, they wouldnt be earning enough to pay tax anyway on your figures, as long as they filled in a tax return etc thats legal, benefits etc is different, but you dont know everyones circumstances, i just think you should relax a bit, maybe take a holiday, unless they'd take your round while your gone

you just know these guys arent paying or declaring thats my point if they had to they wouldnt be around sometimes its like you v just called a customers mum when you tell them the cost and they spring back with weell i was paying £3 well yes love but im paying tax ,petrol,water rates, a mortgage, bills, phone costs, road tax,

[GEMclean services]

i think some one's been drinking    hahaha    

haha i might turn to drink  beer money needed hahaha

[cozy]

Like I said before GEM. Just get enough work so it wont damage your biz. " If in doubt, put more custies in " is a good tip I got off one of the older guys on here. Can't remember who it was though.

[stuart mc]

thats exactly what i was saying, they wouldnt be earning enough to pay tax anyway on your figures, as long as they filled in a tax return etc thats legal, benefits etc is different, but you dont know everyones circumstances, i just think you should relax a bit, maybe take a holiday, unless they'd take your round while your gone

you just know these guys arent paying or declaring thats my point if they had to they wouldnt be around sometimes its like you v just called a customers mum when you tell them the cost and they spring back with weell i was paying £3 well yes love but im paying tax ,petrol,water rates, a mortgage, bills, phone costs, road tax,

that is just guessing as I have said I know many guys that are legitimate and charge these prices

[GEMclean services]

i offer a money bonus to customers to bring their friends over you should try it or a free clean per customer they get me little incentives

[cozy]

That's not fair Stu!!! You're in Jockland   They all pay less than 3 quid  

[cozy]

i offer a money bonus to customers to bring their friends over you should try it or a free clean per customer they get me little incentives

Would you still do that if you had too much work?