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Title: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on February 08, 2013, 07:56:50 am
Hi everyone. If anyone is interested, I have a ground mounted installation with 960 panels that needs cleaning. A RAMS, public liability and previous experience of solar cleaning is required.

Any questions, fire away. Look forward to hearing from you.  :)
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on February 08, 2013, 06:18:06 pm
There has been precious little interest in this so far so I thought I would narrow the field a little. The site is at an IP18 postcode if that helps anyone. :)
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: mark dew on February 08, 2013, 06:41:40 pm
Looks like halesworth.
I have only cleaned some customers solar panels but chris cottrell isn't too far away.
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: MNWC on February 08, 2013, 06:44:44 pm
Done a few of these steve but its 2hrs each way can you email me some more details pls sales@mnsolar-panel-cleaning.co.uk
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: Gary Atkins on February 08, 2013, 08:36:52 pm
Hi Steve - e-mail sent
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: sunshine windies on February 08, 2013, 08:41:54 pm
Hi,
I am in suffolk
sungless@hotmail.co.uk
Could you send me some info if youre still looking,for someone
Thanks
Scott
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: Chris Cottrell on February 08, 2013, 09:19:49 pm
Hi everyone. If anyone is interested, I have a ground mounted installation with 960 panels that needs cleaning. A RAMS, public liability and previous experience of solar cleaning is required.

Any questions, fire away. Look forward to hearing from you.  :)

Steve thats a lot of panels but nobody with an ounce of sense is going to clean them for a pittance
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on February 08, 2013, 10:22:27 pm
Hi everyone. If anyone is interested, I have a ground mounted installation with 960 panels that needs cleaning. A RAMS, public liability and previous experience of solar cleaning is required.

Any questions, fire away. Look forward to hearing from you.  :)

Steve thats a lot of panels but nobody with an ounce of sense is going to clean them for a pittance

Hi chris.  Completely agree mate. Can you email me a rough idea of your price, bearing in mind that it is a 6-monthly clean and they are all ground mounted. Thank you. :)
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on February 08, 2013, 10:24:38 pm
Done a few of these steve but its 2hrs each way can you email me some more details pls sales@mnsolar-panel-cleaning.co.uk
Hi mate. I just need a price for cleaning the panels every 6 months. They are all ground mounted, so there is nothing too difficult about this particular site. We already have the job for a certain price. I'm not looking to make a fortune. I just want the job to be done thoroughly.

Look forward to getting your price.  :)
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: Chris Cottrell on February 08, 2013, 10:39:15 pm
Hi everyone. If anyone is interested, I have a ground mounted installation with 960 panels that needs cleaning. A RAMS, public liability and previous experience of solar cleaning is required.

Any questions, fire away. Look forward to hearing from you.  :)

Steve thats a lot of panels but nobody with an ounce of sense is going to clean them for a pittance

Hi chris.  Completely agree mate. Can you email me a rough idea of your price, bearing in mind that it is a 6-monthly clean and they are all ground mounted. Thank you. :)

Steve perhaps youve forgotten weve already spoken about the Adnams site over 3 months ago my price was far in excess of anything you were willing to pay unless of course now 3 months on things are different
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: Alex Wingrove on February 08, 2013, 11:07:44 pm
You can really make this type of work pay if you have two people working for you, even if you are paying them £20p/h each you can still come away with £80.00p/h for yourself.

Its really not that hard. If I were closer Steve I would bite your hand off
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on February 08, 2013, 11:14:26 pm
Hi everyone. If anyone is interested, I have a ground mounted installation with 960 panels that needs cleaning. A RAMS, public liability and previous experience of solar cleaning is required.

Any questions, fire away. Look forward to hearing from you.  :)

Steve thats a lot of panels but nobody with an ounce of sense is going to clean them for a pittance

Hi chris.  Completely agree mate. Can you email me a rough idea of your price, bearing in mind that it is a 6-monthly clean and they are all ground mounted. Thank you. :)

Steve perhaps youve forgotten weve already spoken about the Adnams site over 3 months ago my price was far in excess of anything you were willing to pay unless of course now 3 months on things are different
Hi chris. Sorry! Didn't realise you were one and the same! Unfortunately other people were coming in at nearly half your price, and they are still making it pay. Thank you again for your interest.
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on February 08, 2013, 11:16:02 pm
You can really make this type of work pay if you have two people working for you, even if you are paying them £20p/h each you can still come away with £80.00p/h for yourself.

Its really not that hard. If I were closer Steve I would bite your hand off
Hi alex. Thank you. You're right. It can and will pay very well. Can you not use your private jet to get there? ;) ;D
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: deeege on February 08, 2013, 11:17:52 pm
You can really make this type of work pay if you have two people working for you, even if you are paying them £20p/h each you can still come away with £80.00p/h for yourself.

Its really not that hard. If I were closer Steve I would bite your hand off

£1120.00 for a 2 man team 8 hour day and that's without Steves percentage. Seems excessive to me. Am I right?
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on February 08, 2013, 11:21:22 pm
You can really make this type of work pay if you have two people working for you, even if you are paying them £20p/h each you can still come away with £80.00p/h for yourself.

Its really not that hard. If I were closer Steve I would bite your hand off

£1120.00 for a 2 man team 8 hour day and that's without Steves percentage. Seems excessive to me. Am I right?
No mate. That puts your price per panel at £1.16 which is too much I'm afraid. :( :-\ :'(
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: deeege on February 08, 2013, 11:24:44 pm
How many panels can a 2 man team clean in 8 hours on average at these large sites? Surely 960 is not possible in 1 day which will slash that day rate in half right away?
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on February 08, 2013, 11:30:40 pm
How many panels can a 2 man team clean in 8 hours on average at these large sites? Surely 960 is not possible in 1 day which will slash that day rate in half right away?
How many panels can be cleaned depends on lots of factors. But we know we are where we should be price-wise.
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: deeege on February 08, 2013, 11:34:25 pm
How many panels can a 2 man team clean in 8 hours on average at these large sites? Surely 960 is not possible in 1 day which will slash that day rate in half right away?
How many panels can be cleaned depends on lots of factors. But we know we are where we should be price-wise.

Sigh, Can you be any more vague?
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: robertphil on February 08, 2013, 11:38:27 pm
im local but not for me,cant think of any firm i know round here thatd do it either - actually i can, that bloomin rogue who worked for me and crashed my van, yeh, hes a bad morals type but hed slog his guts out  do decent job ,long as he got paid allrite. mess up the payment and hed put an axe thru the panels

  pm me if you want him
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: James archell on February 09, 2013, 02:17:17 am
I would imagine 60-80p per panel is the rate that a job of that size would attract.
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: Small but perfectley formed on February 09, 2013, 05:32:37 am
30-40p per panel more like
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: deeege on February 09, 2013, 06:52:11 am
30-40p per panel more like

So the £1120 per day for 2 men would appear to be waaaay out, I thought so.
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on February 09, 2013, 07:56:45 am
im local but not for me,cant think of any firm i know round here thatd do it either - actually i can, that bloomin rogue who worked for me and crashed my van, yeh, hes a bad morals type but hed slog his guts out  do decent job ,long as he got paid allrite. mess up the payment and hed put an axe thru the panels

  pm me if you want him
;D ;D Thanks for the offer, but I think I'll give him a miss!  :o ;D
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on February 09, 2013, 07:58:07 am
30-40p per panel more like
Hi mate. Are you in the area for this job?
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: Small but perfectley formed on February 09, 2013, 08:16:05 am
No but if you get any within 50 miles Sheffield would be interested
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: Ste M on February 09, 2013, 08:19:30 am
Steve, unless you have had loads of e-mails with what you consider to be the right price then why not be a bit more open and give a ballpark figure for how much you want to pay and also how long it should take roughly? At the moment all you seem to my (in my. Opinion) is create a auction an highest bidder wins, the thing is everyone is going in as high as possible as they don't want to be caught out due to not knowing how long it's going to take   

Just put the rough time and price up and then I'm sure you,ll get a much more positive response
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on February 09, 2013, 08:22:26 am
Steve, unless you have had loads of e-mails with what you consider to be the right price then why not be a bit more open and give a ballpark figure for how much you want to pay and also how long it should take roughly? At the moment all you seem to my (in my. Opinion) is create a auction an highest bidder wins, the thing is everyone is going in as high as possible as they don't want to be caught out due to not knowing how long it's going to take   

Just put the rough time and price up and then I'm sure you,ll get a much more positive response
I won't do that, because as you say, I'm getting loads of emails. The response is very positive. I appreciate your suggestion though. Thank you.  :)
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on February 09, 2013, 08:24:51 am
No but if you get any within 50 miles Sheffield would be interested
There is a good possibility in the next 6 months that we will be getting about 30 schools in your area from one of our current contracts. If you drop me an email through my spc site with the areas you can cover, I will keep your details on file. Look out for future threads also.  :)
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: deeege on February 09, 2013, 10:13:22 am
Call me a cynic but I have a few questions. Feel free to answer or completely ignore as you wish Steve.

Why are you not cleaning these large jobs yourself? Distance? Manpower?

Is it in the public domain any company that have 'won' one of these contracts from you? If not then why not?

Tell me to mind my own business, that's fine, but to me it looks a lot like you could be using the more expensive quotes to compare less favourably against your own in order to secure the jobs for yourself.

Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: James archell on February 09, 2013, 10:41:27 am
30-40p per panel more like

That's desperate if that's the case. 
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: Ste M on February 09, 2013, 10:44:53 am
Call me a cynic but I have a few questions. Feel free to answer or completely ignore as you wish Steve.

Why are you not cleaning these large jobs yourself? Distance? Manpower?

Is it in the public domain any company that have 'won' one of these contracts from you? If not then why not?

Tell me to mind my own business, that's fine, but to me it looks a lot like you could be using the more expensive quotes to compare less favourably against your own in order to secure the jobs for yourself.



Another member on here called archer does e same. Comes on every so many months and asks for people to e-mail day rates and what they can do. I know loads of people have given him this info yet no-one has ever got any work? Suspicious?  or simply just finding out local companies prices so he can use this info for his own good?
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: ben M on February 09, 2013, 11:23:47 am
30-40p per panel more like

That's desperate if that's the case. 
+1
completely ridiculous this price!
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: Alex Wingrove on February 09, 2013, 11:54:12 am
I guess that's why the people who get the job are the ones with experience.

You cant look at this like its a domestic property with 20 panels on the roof. For that you need to charge £2-3 per panel. Because its take time to get there, unload the van, clean them, pack away etc.

With 1000 panels you can drastically lower your price because you are stacking the work.

In the grand scheme of things I guess its best that you guys who are moaning don't get the job, simply because you don't have the experience.

Alex
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: Frankybadboy on February 09, 2013, 11:56:41 am
how long would you except to take for a job this size.?
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: Alex Wingrove on February 09, 2013, 12:16:41 pm
Probably 4 hours
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: easy clean on February 09, 2013, 12:32:10 pm
No chance!!!!!!!!

960 / 4 = 240 panels per hour

4 a minute every minute for 4 hours, good luck!
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: deeege on February 09, 2013, 12:48:48 pm
Probably 4 hours

You couldn't even wet them all in 4 hours, nevermind clean them.
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: ben M on February 09, 2013, 01:13:20 pm
Probably 4 hours
clearly, you don't have the experience!!!!
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on February 09, 2013, 01:29:35 pm
Call me a cynic but I have a few questions. Feel free to answer or completely ignore as you wish Steve.

Why are you not cleaning these large jobs yourself? Distance? Manpower?

Is it in the public domain any company that have 'won' one of these contracts from you? If not then why not?

Tell me to mind my own business, that's fine, but to me it looks a lot like you could be using the more expensive quotes to compare less favourably against your own in order to secure the jobs for yourself.


I will answer the questions, I have nothing to hide. I am not cleaning SOME of these jobs myself due to distance mainly. I am in the midlands, so am well placed for lots of these sites, but not the ones in the south east or north east. I can cover the south west sites.
But man power does come into it. We are sorting a site with 17,000 panels on and another for 12,000. Plus we have other lines to our work. I would love to clean every single panel on every site in this single contract, but can't.

Why are companies that we currently deal with not in the public domain? That is their choice. I have said that I am happy for them to say who they are, but if they choose not to, that is up to them. I am also happy if they don't want to say who they are.

ALL sites that I have asked quotes for we have already secured. This is not a mission for me to guess prices. I did the number crunching years ago and I know I am where I need to be.

I hope this answers your questions and those of some of the other cynics there may be out there.
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on February 09, 2013, 01:31:38 pm
I guess that's why the people who get the job are the ones with experience.

You cant look at this like its a domestic property with 20 panels on the roof. For that you need to charge £2-3 per panel. Because its take time to get there, unload the van, clean them, pack away etc.

With 1000 panels you can drastically lower your price because you are stacking the work.

In the grand scheme of things I guess its best that you guys who are moaning don't get the job, simply because you don't have the experience.

Alex
I agree with all of the above Alex. We can soon sift through those who can and those who can't.
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on February 09, 2013, 01:33:48 pm
No chance!!!!!!!!

960 / 4 = 240 panels per hour

4 a minute every minute for 4 hours, good luck!
Of course you can! You can get the whole site done in an hour with the right stuff!
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on February 09, 2013, 01:35:36 pm
Probably 4 hours

You couldn't even wet them all in 4 hours, nevermind clean them.
Yes we can! What you meant to say was "I DONT KNOW HOW to do it in 4 hours!"
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on February 09, 2013, 01:36:25 pm
Probably 4 hours
clearly, you don't have the experience!!!!
Or maybe he does, that's why he knows. Have you ever cleaned a solar farm with 1000 panels Ben?
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on February 09, 2013, 01:38:51 pm
Call me a cynic but I have a few questions. Feel free to answer or completely ignore as you wish Steve.

Why are you not cleaning these large jobs yourself? Distance? Manpower?

Is it in the public domain any company that have 'won' one of these contracts from you? If not then why not?

Tell me to mind my own business, that's fine, but to me it looks a lot like you could be using the more expensive quotes to compare less favourably against your own in order to secure the jobs for yourself.



Another member on here called archer does e same. Comes on every so many months and asks for people to e-mail day rates and what they can do. I know loads of people have given him this info yet no-one has ever got any work? Suspicious?  or simply just finding out local companies prices so he can use this info for his own good?
Like I said on another post. The contract is already secured. We don't need educating HOW to get the job done, we already know. We just need it done to a high standard.
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: easy clean on February 09, 2013, 01:50:14 pm
Steve you want the job doing to a high standard......then you say that it can be done in an hour, not with one guy no matter what equipment you've got!
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on February 09, 2013, 02:09:27 pm
Steve you want the job doing to a high standard......then you say that it can be done in an hour, not with one guy no matter what equipment you've got!
I never said anything about one guy.... :-\
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: easy clean on February 09, 2013, 02:12:54 pm
Steve the earlier post said how long would it take you to do? Correct me if I'm wrong but you generally means one person
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: deeege on February 09, 2013, 02:14:19 pm
Call me a cynic but I have a few questions. Feel free to answer or completely ignore as you wish Steve.

Why are you not cleaning these large jobs yourself? Distance? Manpower?

Is it in the public domain any company that have 'won' one of these contracts from you? If not then why not?

Tell me to mind my own business, that's fine, but to me it looks a lot like you could be using the more expensive quotes to compare less favourably against your own in order to secure the jobs for yourself.


I will answer the questions, I have nothing to hide. I am not cleaning SOME of these jobs myself due to distance mainly. I am in the midlands, so am well placed for lots of these sites, but not the ones in the south east or north east. I can cover the south west sites.
But man power does come into it. We are sorting a site with 17,000 panels on and another for 12,000. Plus we have other lines to our work. I would love to clean every single panel on every site in this single contract, but can't.

Why are companies that we currently deal with not in the public domain? That is their choice. I have said that I am happy for them to say who they are, but if they choose not to, that is up to them. I am also happy if they don't want to say who they are.

ALL sites that I have asked quotes for we have already secured. This is not a mission for me to guess prices. I did the number crunching years ago and I know I am where I need to be.

I hope this answers your questions and those of some of the other cynics there may be out there.

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

Maybe I'm wrong but IMO to be fully transparent, if you are using this site to look for quotes you should also be updating the threads with who has won each site, until then I'll remain sceptical.

Good luck regardless.
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on February 09, 2013, 02:14:53 pm
Steve the earlier post said how long would it take you to do? Correct me if I'm wrong but you generally means one person
Crossed lines I suppose mate. Some would take that as you, I.e. the person. I take that as in you, the company. Sorry for any confusion. :)
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: ben M on February 09, 2013, 02:15:55 pm
Probably 4 hours
clearly, you don't have the experience!!!!
Or maybe he does, that's why he knows. Have you ever cleaned a solar farm with 1000 panels Ben?
no i haven't but i know for sure you can't clean them in 4h on your own and do a good job!
except if you are superman  ;D
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on February 09, 2013, 02:16:27 pm
Call me a cynic but I have a few questions. Feel free to answer or completely ignore as you wish Steve.

Why are you not cleaning these large jobs yourself? Distance? Manpower?

Is it in the public domain any company that have 'won' one of these contracts from you? If not then why not?

Tell me to mind my own business, that's fine, but to me it looks a lot like you could be using the more expensive quotes to compare less favourably against your own in order to secure the jobs for yourself.


I will answer the questions, I have nothing to hide. I am not cleaning SOME of these jobs myself due to distance mainly. I am in the midlands, so am well placed for lots of these sites, but not the ones in the south east or north east. I can cover the south west sites.
But man power does come into it. We are sorting a site with 17,000 panels on and another for 12,000. Plus we have other lines to our work. I would love to clean every single panel on every site in this single contract, but can't.

Why are companies that we currently deal with not in the public domain? That is their choice. I have said that I am happy for them to say who they are, but if they choose not to, that is up to them. I am also happy if they don't want to say who they are.

ALL sites that I have asked quotes for we have already secured. This is not a mission for me to guess prices. I did the number crunching years ago and I know I am where I need to be.

I hope this answers your questions and those of some of the other cynics there may be out there.

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

Maybe I'm wrong but IMO to be fully transparent, if you are using this site to look for quotes you should also be updating the threads with who has won each site, until then I'll remain sceptical.

Good luck regardless.
Ok mate. Thank you. Update below. :)
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: easy clean on February 09, 2013, 02:18:43 pm
No problem Steve, how long do you think it would take 1 man to clean?
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on February 09, 2013, 02:22:40 pm
Hi everyone! Thank you all for your interest again! We have found the company we would like to use in this instance.

Again, their competitive price seems to be because they are very close to the job. I am confident that we have found the right company as they have experience in solar farm cleaning, know how much they need to charge, know how long it will take and can also provide a reference from a current solar farm owner who they clean the panels for. All of this has given me confidence in their ability to carry out the job to the required standard.

Thank you all again for making contact. If you have left your details with us via email, we will keep these on file for future jobs that we will get.

Steve.
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: deeege on February 09, 2013, 02:37:46 pm
Has this contractor also requested to remain anonymous?
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: James archell on February 09, 2013, 02:54:34 pm
lol it's all a little cloak and dagger isnt it.

Im always sceptical of these companies who play a bit of donkey and carrot on here. It all seems a bit like a game from where the outsider is sat.
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on February 09, 2013, 03:10:17 pm
Has this contractor also requested to remain anonymous?
Yes. His choice. I said he can rave about it if he wants, but he said he preferred not to. 
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on February 09, 2013, 03:11:09 pm
lol it's all a little cloak and dagger isnt it.

Im always sceptical of these companies who play a bit of donkey and carrot on here. It all seems a bit like a game from where the outsider is sat.
It's not personal, it's business. :)
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: Panorama on February 09, 2013, 03:49:46 pm
Hi Steve, I'm in the north east if you need any help, regards Kevin
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on February 09, 2013, 04:27:16 pm
Hi Steve, I'm in the north east if you need any help, regards Kevin
Ok Kevin. Thanks. Can you please drop me an email via our spc site stating the areas which you cover please? I will then keep your details on file. Thank you. :)
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: Panorama on February 09, 2013, 04:46:38 pm
Ok will do :)
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: Panorama on February 09, 2013, 05:01:47 pm
Email sent Steve
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: Alex Wingrove on February 09, 2013, 05:31:45 pm
Oh dear.

Ill be cleaning over 5000 panels for Steve.

With travelling included we will get this done in two days. It will be one of my best paying jobs, otherwise I wouldn't do it.

It is very easy to criticise and call into question peoples motive when you don't know them or their methods. I am always careful what I put into print because you can never guarantee how its going to be read or understood.

I know Steve from talking to him on the phone over the past few weeks at length, and anyone that has been critical it makes them look rather foolish and unprofessional.
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: Dani J on February 09, 2013, 05:46:48 pm
Oh dear.

Ill be cleaning over 5000 panels for Steve.

With travelling included we will get this done in two days. It will be one of my best paying jobs, otherwise I wouldn't do it.

It is very easy to criticise and call into question peoples motive when you don't know them or their methods. I am always careful what I put into print because you can never guarantee how its going to be read or understood.

I know Steve from talking to him on the phone over the past few weeks at length, and anyone that has been critical it makes them look rather foolish and unprofessional.

You just been unprofessional towards Lee Pryor  ::)roll
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: Alex Wingrove on February 09, 2013, 05:48:31 pm
Where is the smiley face for when you put your head in your hands.  ::)roll
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: deeege on February 09, 2013, 06:01:48 pm
Oh dear.

Ill be cleaning over 5000 panels for Steve.

With travelling included we will get this done in two days. It will be one of my best paying jobs, otherwise I wouldn't do it.

It is very easy to criticise and call into question peoples motive when you don't know them or their methods. I am always careful what I put into print because you can never guarantee how its going to be read or understood.

I know Steve from talking to him on the phone over the past few weeks at length, and anyone that has been critical it makes them look rather foolish and unprofessional.

It's great that you have been speaking at length with Steve about this, I'm happy for you!

However as an outsider looking in, alls I see is an account that became active within the last 2 months supposedly offering lots of work to others when he has a business set up to do that exact type of work. 

3 or 4 of these jobs have now been 'awarded' to members who have replied to his requests for quotes, each of these members have asked to remain anonymous. The only feedback we have had from any members (yourself excluded) has been that all quotes have been way too expensive.

If Steve is using the forum to give genuinely large amounts of work to other members then that is great and all concerned are winners. However in return is asking for a bit of clarity unreasonable?

Is that request making me look "foolish and unprofessional" Alex?
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: Alex Wingrove on February 09, 2013, 06:20:27 pm
Oh dear.

Ill be cleaning over 5000 panels for Steve.

With travelling included we will get this done in two days. It will be one of my best paying jobs, otherwise I wouldn't do it.

It is very easy to criticise and call into question peoples motive when you don't know them or their methods. I am always careful what I put into print because you can never guarantee how its going to be read or understood.

I know Steve from talking to him on the phone over the past few weeks at length, and anyone that has been critical it makes them look rather foolish and unprofessional.

It's great that you have been speaking at length with Steve about this, I'm happy for you!

However as an outsider looking in, alls I see is an account that became active within the last 2 months supposedly offering lots of work to others when he has a business set up to do that exact type of work. 

3 or 4 of these jobs have now been 'awarded' to members who have replied to his requests for quotes, each of these members have asked to remain anonymous. The only feedback we have had from any members (yourself excluded) has been that all quotes have been way too expensive.

If Steve is using the forum to give genuinely large amounts of work to other members then that is great and all concerned are winners. However in return is asking for a bit of clarity unreasonable?

Is that request making me look "foolish and unprofessional" Alex?

I don't know, does it?

All I do know is that without all the information you cant make an informed descion
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on February 09, 2013, 06:52:41 pm
Oh dear.

Ill be cleaning over 5000 panels for Steve.

With travelling included we will get this done in two days. It will be one of my best paying jobs, otherwise I wouldn't do it.

It is very easy to criticise and call into question peoples motive when you don't know them or their methods. I am always careful what I put into print because you can never guarantee how its going to be read or understood.

I know Steve from talking to him on the phone over the past few weeks at length, and anyone that has been critical it makes them look rather foolish and unprofessional.
Thanks Alex. Not much else to say, but thank you. :) ;)
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: Deangsi on February 09, 2013, 06:53:41 pm
Hi Steve if you get any jobs that want pricing in the Shropshire area id be very interested. We have two vans and 4 workers including myself and are very competative on price. I am willing to travel 60 miles from sy112hl il give you my contact details incase you require our servises.
deanlawrence89@hotmail.co.uk
07790499404
high access window cleaning

Cheers :)
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on February 09, 2013, 07:03:13 pm
Hi Steve if you get any jobs that want pricing in the Shropshire area id be very interested. We have two vans and 4 workers including myself and are very competative on price. I am willing to travel 60 miles from sy112hl il give you my contact details incase you require our servises.
deanlawrence89@hotmail.co.uk
07790499404
high access window cleaning

Cheers :)
Hi dean thanks for your post. Can you send your details via email through our spc website please? :) Might be an idea to delete the above post as spam bots love trawling these sites for email addresses!  >:(
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: Deangsi on February 09, 2013, 07:21:07 pm
Email sent. Cheers ;D
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: Ste M on February 09, 2013, 08:02:34 pm
Oh dear.

Ill be cleaning over 5000 panels for Steve.

With travelling included we will get this done in two days. It will be one of my best paying jobs, otherwise I wouldn't do it.

It is very easy to criticise and call into question peoples motive when you don't know them or their methods. I am always careful what I put into print because you can never guarantee how its going to be read or understood.

I know Steve from talking to him on the phone over the past few weeks at length, and anyone that has been critical it makes them look rather foolish and unprofessional.

Good for you, so your telling me he went with you due to the fact you have loads of experiance and your the most expensive?

why is questioning someone on how they give out work looking foolish and unprofessional?

Genuine questions posted to a new poster that is apperently helping everyone out by giving contracts out like candy. Providing you dont ask the questions on the thread or reply with the contract you have won or where it is or how much it is or how long it will take, the mind boggles with people on here sometimes, why not just be open and honest for crying out loud, surely this has turned into an undercutters dream but all behind everyones back.

Im off to be unprofessional somewhere else :P

Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: deeege on February 09, 2013, 08:17:29 pm
Oh dear.

Ill be cleaning over 5000 panels for Steve.

With travelling included we will get this done in two days. It will be one of my best paying jobs, otherwise I wouldn't do it.

It is very easy to criticise and call into question peoples motive when you don't know them or their methods. I am always careful what I put into print because you can never guarantee how its going to be read or understood.

I know Steve from talking to him on the phone over the past few weeks at length, and anyone that has been critical it makes them look rather foolish and unprofessional.

Good for you, so your telling me he went with you due to the fact you have loads of experiance and your the most expensive?

why is questioning someone on how they give out work looking foolish and unprofessional?

Genuine questions posted to a new poster that is apperently helping everyone out by giving contracts out like candy. Providing you dont ask the questions on the thread or reply with the contract you have won or where it is or how much it is or how long it will take, the mind boggles with people on here sometimes, why not just be open and honest for crying out loud, surely this has turned into an undercutters dream but all behind everyones back.

Im off to be unprofessional somewhere else :P



:)

It's just an ego massaging exercise at this point.
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: James archell on February 09, 2013, 08:36:28 pm
Oh dear.

Ill be cleaning over 5000 panels for Steve.

With travelling included we will get this done in two days. It will be one of my best paying jobs, otherwise I wouldn't do it.

It is very easy to criticise and call into question peoples motive when you don't know them or their methods. I am always careful what I put into print because you can never guarantee how its going to be read or understood.

I know Steve from talking to him on the phone over the past few weeks at length, and anyone that has been critical it makes them look rather foolish and unprofessional.

A few threads of how these projects pan out wouldn't be a bad idea hey. You know photos, time of day started/finished, number of operatives involved, that kind of thing; when you do the work. That would help clarify things wouldn't it?
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on February 09, 2013, 08:53:15 pm
Oh dear.

Ill be cleaning over 5000 panels for Steve.

With travelling included we will get this done in two days. It will be one of my best paying jobs, otherwise I wouldn't do it.

It is very easy to criticise and call into question peoples motive when you don't know them or their methods. I am always careful what I put into print because you can never guarantee how its going to be read or understood.

I know Steve from talking to him on the phone over the past few weeks at length, and anyone that has been critical it makes them look rather foolish and unprofessional.

A few threads of how these projects pan out wouldn't be a bad idea hey. You know photos, time of day started/finished, number of operatives involved, that kind of thing; when you do the work. That would help clarify things wouldn't it?
The blog on my spc site, does and will be doing exactly that Matt. My twitter feed @spcleaners does updates of our jobs too. Not irrelevant stuff, just business. :)
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: James archell on February 09, 2013, 09:36:03 pm
Shame that, none of the pictures seem to work on the Blog. It looks therefore just like a list of jobs done, no clearer to be honest mate.
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: Alex Wingrove on February 09, 2013, 09:38:09 pm
Oh dear.

Ill be cleaning over 5000 panels for Steve.

With travelling included we will get this done in two days. It will be one of my best paying jobs, otherwise I wouldn't do it.

It is very easy to criticise and call into question peoples motive when you don't know them or their methods. I am always careful what I put into print because you can never guarantee how its going to be read or understood.

I know Steve from talking to him on the phone over the past few weeks at length, and anyone that has been critical it makes them look rather foolish and unprofessional.

Good for you, so your telling me he went with you due to the fact you have loads of experiance and your the most expensive?

why is questioning someone on how they give out work looking foolish and unprofessional?

Genuine questions posted to a new poster that is apperently helping everyone out by giving contracts out like candy. Providing you dont ask the questions on the thread or reply with the contract you have won or where it is or how much it is or how long it will take, the mind boggles with people on here sometimes, why not just be open and honest for crying out loud, surely this has turned into an undercutters dream but all behind everyones back.

Im off to be unprofessional somewhere else :P



You're right
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on February 09, 2013, 10:07:31 pm
Shame that, none of the pictures seem to work on the Blog. It looks therefore just like a list of jobs done, no clearer to be honest mate.
Uh? They should!  >:( will find out why not!
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on February 09, 2013, 10:16:14 pm
Shame that, none of the pictures seem to work on the Blog. It looks therefore just like a list of jobs done, no clearer to be honest mate.
It seems the photos were too large. Have resized a couple now. Will sort others tomorrow hopefully, if I get time.  Thanks for pointing it out! :)
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on February 09, 2013, 10:55:49 pm
Photos updated! ;D
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: Window Washers on February 10, 2013, 04:36:59 am
Hi everyone. If anyone is interested, I have a ground mounted installation with 960 panels that needs cleaning. A RAMS, public liability and previous experience of solar cleaning is required.

Any questions, fire away. Look forward to hearing from you.  :)
steve could you please email me on design@windowwashers.co.uk We can cover a large area for you Cambridgeshire and Bedfordshire add your number I will call you, if I get no reply I will get the message ;)

Ian
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on February 10, 2013, 08:06:28 am
Hi everyone. If anyone is interested, I have a ground mounted installation with 960 panels that needs cleaning. A RAMS, public liability and previous experience of solar cleaning is required.

Any questions, fire away. Look forward to hearing from you.  :)
steve could you please email me on design@windowwashers.co.uk We can cover a large area for you Cambridgeshire and Bedfordshire add your number I will call you, if I get no reply I will get the message ;)

Ian
Hi Ian. Email sent. :)
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: Simon@ Clearview contractors on February 10, 2013, 09:30:47 am
Hi Steve, email sent through your website. :)

Warmest regards, Simon :)
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on February 10, 2013, 10:36:42 am
Hi Steve, email sent through your website. :)

Warmest regards, Simon :)
Email received Simon. Thank you.
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: robertphil on February 10, 2013, 11:37:45 am
i sense slow payment.  please tell me itd be cash on the nail, on the day ,restore my faith
dont tell me its on a 30day  invoice when the solar farm pays you and then you pay out IF everybodys in a good mood  etc . 

Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on February 10, 2013, 11:47:28 am
i sense slow payment.  please tell me itd be cash on the nail, on the day ,restore my faith
dont tell me its on a 30day  invoice when the solar farm pays you and then you pay out IF everybodys in a good mood  etc . 


Are you interested in doing some Robert?
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: Alex Wingrove on February 10, 2013, 11:55:50 am
I'm thinking more 60 day.
Title: Re: Solar Cleaning Quote Needed Suffolk. 960 Panels
Post by: George P on February 10, 2013, 12:03:22 pm
Hi Steve, email sent,
thank you
george,