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gewindows

Just lost my biggest commercial
« on: February 25, 2010, 11:15:02 am »
To a price that is 38% of what I was charging  :o  :o

crouch_400

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Re: Just lost my biggest commercial
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2010, 11:20:20 am »
Sorry to hear that -

 i hate it when that happens weve had some contracts go national and its always hit and miss weather you can be bothered to do 2 0r more sites to get what you got in the first place .

What was it - high st or just a big site?

Cheers

Danny

gewindows

Re: Just lost my biggest commercial
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2010, 11:26:47 am »
Big site mate.

Its less than it was when we first picked it up 12 years ago.

supernova77

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Re: Just lost my biggest commercial
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2010, 11:28:49 am »
Matt,

Do you know who you lost it to?

There seem to be more and more window cleaning vans around Basingstoke, Farnham, Fleet etc recemtly!

Andy

clean

Re: Just lost my biggest commercial
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2010, 11:31:04 am »
Bad news mate  :-\, i lost my biggest commercial job (at the time)about 7 years ago it was split over 2 sites and it was weekly cleans so lost £130 a week  :'( it mentaly never leaves you but you must soldier on Matt it`s hard at first to replace lost work but the gap WILL fill  ;)

matt

Re: Just lost my biggest commercial
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2010, 11:47:32 am »
i lost over 10 K of work last year, with cutbacks on freq of cleans

its just a cost thing, i lost a commercial job just before christmas aswell ( not included in the above 10 K ), it was a few hundred a month ( depending on what was done ) they explained it wasnt because the standard of my work, it was because the residents want to do it themselves ( i was cleaning for a management company )

whilst commercial stuff if nice, i am coming around to the way of thinking its not that good, i like the idea of many many many eggs in 1 basket, thus domestic houses tick that box for me


i have been asked to price up a OAP home i used to do, the new warden knows my wife, its amazing what the budget it, i know what i used to do it for and it was allmost a 10th of the budget they have set aside, so once again, they have the money of the OAP's but they are not spending it , again the job will be won on the cheapest price


gewindows

Re: Just lost my biggest commercial
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2010, 01:10:51 pm »
Matt,

Do you know who you lost it to?

There seem to be more and more window cleaning vans around Basingstoke, Farnham, Fleet etc recemtly!

Andy

Andy I got a call from the manager, and she did tell me who, a crowd from out of town, Andover. So it includes a 20 mile round trip too for pennies. Literally pennies.

I was thinking about it just now, if I was asked to price it now, to gain the work and be happy with the price it would be approaching twice what this other crowd have quoted.

Thanks guys for the encouragement, it could be worse, tomorrow is the anniversary of my Mums death, it keeps this in perspective.

Dennis Taylor

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Re: Just lost my biggest commercial
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2010, 02:13:58 pm »
Matt, a few years ago i spent ages, and i mean ages pricing a load of work for the council, there were sites all over the place.
I priced very keen as i wanted this work, imagine the shock when i discovered the winning tender was a tenth of my price.
The guy must have literally been working for pennies, if indeed he was even doing the jobs at all.
Take heart in the fact that these monkeys will be working like hell for very little reward...... that will make it a bit easier to live with.
I do know how you feel and it really spoils your day.
Onwards and upwards my friend, there's plenty more work out there.

Dennis

matt

Re: Just lost my biggest commercial
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2010, 03:41:49 pm »
Matt, a few years ago i spent ages, and i mean ages pricing a load of work for the council, there were sites all over the place.
I priced very keen as i wanted this work, imagine the shock when i discovered the winning tender was a tenth of my price.
The guy must have literally been working for pennies, if indeed he was even doing the jobs at all.
Take heart in the fact that these monkeys will be working like hell for very little reward...... that will make it a bit easier to live with.
I do know how you feel and it really spoils your day.
Onwards and upwards my friend, there's plenty more work out there.

Dennis

i have highlighted the bold bit, thats the issue you will find with the lower end of the price scale, they will arrive, give it a quick bish bash bosh and be away, they will most prob earn the same as the people who do a good job but take longer to do it


mlscontractcleaner

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Re: Just lost my biggest commercial
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2010, 03:44:18 pm »
Commercial stuff is like that though isn't it; very competetive and it hurts more when you lose a job 'cause it's usually more money. At least when you lose a house it's only a few quid and you can replace it with their neighbour.

Just pick yourself up, brush yourself off and start all over again .... as they say ;D
Come and talk dirty to us!!!

Steve_c

Re: Just lost my biggest commercial
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2010, 03:50:51 pm »
Matt i work in Andover and i think i know who they are. If its the mob i think it is, they are very very cheap. I have to be careful as the owner posts on here. I have gone for some jobs that they have gone for(out of Andover) and can't get anywhere near them.

luther1

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Re: Just lost my biggest commercial
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2010, 03:55:32 pm »
Will be spring soon Matt so more work will roll in. Not a great consolation i know because losing work does have a psycological affect worse than days off because of bad weather.
As you said,putting it in perspective then its only one job.
Keep smiling mate  :)

jonnyald

Re: Just lost my biggest commercial
« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2010, 04:08:30 pm »
yep, keep smiling.  you had 12 good years from that job , time to move on and raise your game in some way

mlscontractcleaner

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Re: Just lost my biggest commercial
« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2010, 04:10:27 pm »
Maybe they just work on a " low profit / high turnover " basis. It obviously suits them; even more so the customer. It just makes it hard to compete with them I guess. Personally I'm glad they're up with you and not down here in Plymouth ;D
Come and talk dirty to us!!!

paul rulton

Re: Just lost my biggest commercial
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2010, 04:13:54 pm »
 :( GUTTED 4YA MATT  :( PEOPLE LIKE THAT NEED SHOOTING >:(

elite mike

Re: Just lost my biggest commercial
« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2010, 04:19:56 pm »
hi matt

sorry to hear that   ::)

i will think of you next week when i will be in the red sea, on all inc  ;D ;D

i find that when one door closes , a better one opens

all the best

mike

elite mike

Re: Just lost my biggest commercial
« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2010, 04:22:10 pm »

luther1

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Re: Just lost my biggest commercial
« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2010, 04:25:32 pm »
No,thats Matt but his hair piece blew off  ;D

gewindows

Re: Just lost my biggest commercial
« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2010, 04:40:02 pm »
Matt i work in Andover and i think i know who they are. If its the mob i think it is, they are very very cheap. I have to be careful as the owner posts on here. I have gone for some jobs that they have gone for(out of Andover) and can't get anywhere near them.

Yes he does post on here. Therefore I think we know who tis.

gewindows

Re: Just lost my biggest commercial
« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2010, 04:45:21 pm »
hi matt

sorry to hear that   ::)

i will think of you next week when i will be in the red sea, on all inc  ;D ;D

i find that when one door closes , a better one opens

all the best

mike

Oi ya sod, where you staying?