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Re: Just lost my biggest commercial
« Reply #20 on: February 25, 2010, 04:50:01 pm »
sorry to hear that matt, i haven't got much commercial.

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Re: Just lost my biggest commercial
« Reply #21 on: February 25, 2010, 04:50:13 pm »
Matt i work in Andover and i think i know who they are. If its the mob i think it is, they are very very cheap. I have to be careful as the owner posts on here. I have gone for some jobs that they have gone for(out of Andover) and can't get anywhere near them.

Yes he does post on here. Therefore I think we know who tis.

Spill, who is it? :o

gewindows

Re: Just lost my biggest commercial
« Reply #22 on: February 25, 2010, 04:52:38 pm »
No.

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Re: Just lost my biggest commercial
« Reply #23 on: February 25, 2010, 04:53:35 pm »
Matt i work in Andover and i think i know who they are. If its the mob i think it is, they are very very cheap. I have to be careful as the owner posts on here. I have gone for some jobs that they have gone for(out of Andover) and can't get anywhere near them.

Yes he does post on here. Therefore I think we know who tis.

I wonder if he/they are reading this thread and will be man enough to come on and explain why they are undercutting to that extent.  ???
BaxWalker Window Cleaning

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Re: Just lost my biggest commercial
« Reply #24 on: February 25, 2010, 04:56:10 pm »
Probably too embaressed knowing that they could have doubled their quote and still got the job

gewindows

Re: Just lost my biggest commercial
« Reply #25 on: February 25, 2010, 04:57:05 pm »
hi matt

sorry to hear that   ::)

i will think of you next week when i will be in the red sea, on all inc  ;D ;D

i find that when one door closes , a better one opens

all the best

mike

Oi ya sod, where you staying?
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

http://www.amwajhotelsint.com/Default.aspx
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



Looks nice, they have f*g**t conventions there so I believe  ;D

Hurghada is WINDY!!! Blowing all the time there.

elite mike

Re: Just lost my biggest commercial
« Reply #26 on: February 25, 2010, 04:58:57 pm »
i think you find its in sharm matt ::) ;D ;D

f*g**ts my favourite with gravy ;D

Re: Just lost my biggest commercial
« Reply #27 on: February 25, 2010, 05:00:24 pm »
Your experience matches mine last year, one of my big commercial jobs cut the budget by nearly £700 a month, all you can do is carry on, you will pick up more work.
Had a block of flats I did for £112 monthly. New guy £65 every 6 weeks.

I too have decided to pick up some more residential, as a friend of mine said it spreads the risk a bit.

Re: Just lost my biggest commercial
« Reply #28 on: February 25, 2010, 05:00:42 pm »
One of the down sides of open forums like these is that too many people can pick up on too much inside information, whether it be newbies or others who go fishing and pinching off others in the same area.
I'm surprised with this particular job that someone would go so far outside their own area for work. I'm even more surprised that this lot can run so cheap with all the overheads.
Thing to remember and I've warned about this for years and years on here, is that there is no loyalty with commercials. Like I said to Matt on the phone I lost a £8 and a £6 commercial to someone when one of the businesses concerned must be turning over millions because they have large offices in Denmark, Germany and Australia. £6 I was gobsmacked over that.

gewindows

Re: Just lost my biggest commercial
« Reply #29 on: February 25, 2010, 05:01:26 pm »
i think you find its in sharm matt ::) ;D ;D

f*g**ts my favourite with gravy ;D

Sharms even windier  ;D

Steve_c

Re: Just lost my biggest commercial
« Reply #30 on: February 25, 2010, 05:04:24 pm »
We know who it is.......Its business leave it at that. It's up to them what they charge we have all lost work whether its commercial or Domestic. Commercial is cut throat i never bank on keeping it for long.

elite mike

Re: Just lost my biggest commercial
« Reply #31 on: February 25, 2010, 05:05:11 pm »
i think you find its in sharm matt ::) ;D ;D

f*g**ts my favourite with gravy ;D

Sharms even windier  ;D

its going to get a lot windier when ive had my all inc  ;) ;D

Steve_c

Re: Just lost my biggest commercial
« Reply #32 on: February 25, 2010, 05:15:08 pm »
One of the down sides of open forums like these is that too many people can pick up on too much inside information, whether it be newbies or others who go fishing and pinching off others in the same area.
I'm surprised with this particular job that someone would go so far outside their own area for work. I'm even more surprised that this lot can run so cheap with all the overheads.
Thing to remember and I've warned about this for years and years on here, is that there is no loyalty with commercials. Like I said to Matt on the phone I lost a £8 and a £6 commercial to someone when one of the businesses concerned must be turning over millions because they have large offices in Denmark, Germany and Australia. £6 I was gobsmacked over that.

Is this one of the reasons you sold up?

wizard

Re: Just lost my biggest commercial
« Reply #33 on: February 25, 2010, 05:30:14 pm »
He will be spiting spiders once they finds out there quote was so low ,then the neglect will set in and a quality will go out the window and he will want more for half job.Time for a comeback Matt be ready mate.Good luck.

gewindows

Re: Just lost my biggest commercial
« Reply #34 on: February 25, 2010, 05:41:33 pm »
 ;D ;D ;D

How d'you go with that place in town?

wfp master

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Re: Just lost my biggest commercial
« Reply #35 on: February 25, 2010, 05:49:08 pm »
Matt i work in Andover and i think i know who they are. If its the mob i think it is, they are very very cheap. I have to be careful as the owner posts on here. I have gone for some jobs that they have gone for(out of Andover) and can't get anywhere near them.
who is it come on let us know. ;)

Yes he does post on here. Therefore I think we know who tis.

I wonder if he/they are reading this thread and will be man enough to come on and explain why they are undercutting to that extent.  ???

Re: Just lost my biggest commercial
« Reply #36 on: February 25, 2010, 06:04:28 pm »
Is this one of the reasons you sold up?

A few reasons really.
(1) We are trying to move so servicing window cleaning 80 miles away was a non starter. (2) I was starting to ache too much after a day of doing it (3) Bored with doing the same exact thing day in day out (3) Wanted to go back to what I enjoy most - carpet/upholstery cleaning (4) Fed up with lack of loyalty from customers who are great to your face but happy to get some cheap and dangerous monkey to do a trash job for half the price.
With hindsight and for those of you who enjoy the job keep doing it because you have regular work and income coming in, month after month. You're lucky to see the same carpet cleaning customer twice in 18 months.

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Re: Just lost my biggest commercial
« Reply #37 on: February 25, 2010, 06:06:38 pm »
matt you will bounce back like you always do mate had a spate of that xmas so i ido domestics only now mate just easier in the long run

A & J Owen Window Cleaning

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Re: Just lost my biggest commercial
« Reply #38 on: February 25, 2010, 06:11:40 pm »
theres loyalty for ya mate  8)

gewindows

Re: Just lost my biggest commercial
« Reply #39 on: February 25, 2010, 06:18:57 pm »
No loyalty in this game is there  :o

Thanks for your encouragement.

I do love you guys  ;D