[stephen s]

lol i may be young but no way am i naive,

lol

those vans are mine im doing fine thanks dont think there end up on ebay any time soon pmsl.

 I think theres more like than 4 or 5 ionics vans  in frome

i was never under any faulse impression that having them would get me more work.

I was never sold a territory, i dont need anyone to tell me where im allowed to clean windows as i am my own boss.

Anyone buying an ionics van or diy, can fail at this, but having professional tools has paid off in my case anyway.
Ive built my customer base in a matter of months tbh not many people care how you clean the windows resi as long as you do a good job, but for commercial the system is impressive to look at and really sells it self .
it looks good for them to have us parked outside cleaning their windows.
I was recently in a car crash and if i had an unsecured ton of water hurling at me i would be finished.I very nearly was anyway. I paid the extra for the crash testing alone i am happy to do so.
i hate all this ionics bashing

well said mate.

sadly this forum has quite a few so called w/cs who dislike anyone spending money on a well made system and fitted safely with your safety in mind.         when their not knocking Ionics they are usually knocking their own customers for wanting to leave a clean for a month    same ols moaning people over and over

so if you dont spend money on a well made system, your just a "so called w/cs "  : :

it might be news to you, but you can clean windows with a 30 quid ladder and a sqeegee and mop ( total spend 50 quid ), infact many do

but they cannot be real window cleaners as they havent spent alot of money  : :

you seem to think because you have spent money you are a real window cleaner and others are not , it doesnt work like that i am afraid

I disagree.

but there's no need to be afraid unless it was you who killed Archie Mitchel ?       what was it ? did he ask you not to clean the windows on Xmas day ?    I would drop him if I were you     oh you did do 

[kevin James]

Kevin,
Neither Ionics or toyota sell money making schemes they sell wc equipment / cars and they are businesses that is their job.

You started this post under the heading Ionics in legal Danger, and then you outlined that by selling to multiple customers in the one area that they were damaging their brand. They dont care about the end users ability to drive or clean windows they care about selling their product.

My analogy is a fair reflection of your misguided assumption.

This is the difference between large businesses & small businesses.:
small ones care about the end user, it ensures repeat business & builds close relationships. ( I enjoy my phone calls to Gardiners)
Large ones end up losing their respect for the customer. All smiled during the sale but don't ask  the right questions.
Toyota is a good case in point. They used to sell cars of genuine quality. Their rapid expansion has caused them to take their eye of the important basic things & boy are they in trouble!

If ionics, or any firm fir that matter, don't think if the benefits to their customer base then long term, they're in fir grief.
And ionics do sell money making machines, why else buy one?

Kevin.

[kevin James]

what do you think of the safety of the public and others how may hurt themselves close by,  by your decking boards, any warning of the hot pipes etc. i could go on.

idealrob

if a small child runs into the road, you will have trouble stopping because of the heavy load you're carrying.
I carry 120 litres, enough to last me 4 hours. This has hardly any effect on my stopping distance. And boy does this machine have brakes!

I have excellent all round visibility, can you see the kiddie crouched behind your van during half term?

If you are in a pile up, yes you won't be crushed by the tank but your momentum ( mass x velocity) will crush the family car in front.

I could go on.

I have no exsposed hot pipes. The heater shield remains just warm.
The only risk to the public is a puncture to the hose. But then my flowrate is so low that scalding wouldn't be an issue.

Did you think the website amateurish?

Kevin. 

[Count Phil]

What's with the bottle of wine?
How does the free clean go down?

[kevin James]

Morning Phil,

the bottle of wine started out as overcoming peep's not being too keen on Fruday night collecting. It's a tenner a week & adds something differnt. Some round here offer free coffees at local establishments.

The free clean doesn't get much take up. Maybe 1 every 2 months. But it does seem to relax folks when they see the site.

Kevin.

[AuRavelling79]

Good answers Kevin - I hate sanctimony whatever it's source - and I think your website is how I would like to portray my business if I had one (website, that is) - competent, friendly and personal.

[ftp]

Kev, I quoted one of your free cleans the other day. Don't know what you did wrong but they didn't like it.
Needless to say they didn't get back to me either. Think you frightened them with science.  

[matt]

lol i may be young but no way am i naive,

lol

those vans are mine im doing fine thanks dont think there end up on ebay any time soon pmsl.

 I think theres more like than 4 or 5 ionics vans  in frome

i was never under any faulse impression that having them would get me more work.

I was never sold a territory, i dont need anyone to tell me where im allowed to clean windows as i am my own boss.

Anyone buying an ionics van or diy, can fail at this, but having professional tools has paid off in my case anyway.
Ive built my customer base in a matter of months tbh not many people care how you clean the windows resi as long as you do a good job, but for commercial the system is impressive to look at and really sells it self .
it looks good for them to have us parked outside cleaning their windows.
I was recently in a car crash and if i had an unsecured ton of water hurling at me i would be finished.I very nearly was anyway. I paid the extra for the crash testing alone i am happy to do so.
i hate all this ionics bashing

well said mate.

sadly this forum has quite a few so called w/cs who dislike anyone spending money on a well made system and fitted safely with your safety in mind.         when their not knocking Ionics they are usually knocking their own customers for wanting to leave a clean for a month    same ols moaning people over and over

so if you dont spend money on a well made system, your just a "so called w/cs "  : :

it might be news to you, but you can clean windows with a 30 quid ladder and a sqeegee and mop ( total spend 50 quid ), infact many do

but they cannot be real window cleaners as they havent spent alot of money  : :

you seem to think because you have spent money you are a real window cleaner and others are not , it doesnt work like that i am afraid

I disagree.

serously  ?? ??

so alll the old boys who are cleaning windows the trad way, they are "so called w/cs "

its this attitude that troubles people

[stephen s]

dont be silly sweety.

me thinks your trying to twist things some what.

when refering to so called w/c  I was refering to people like yourself who don't like other w/c investing in their business and using quality suppliers like Ionics so you like to have a pop at them,  but thats fine as we can all have a pop at people as I know I do cos I'm doing it now.

also all those moaners who come on here time after time moaning about customers and how bad life is for them,  those so calledf w/c  as I like to put it