[matt]

i guess you can have patents in different countries can you  ? ? ?? ?

as this looks like a gutter vac

http://www.google.co.uk/patents?id=FbEMAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4&source=gbs_overview_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q=&f=false

Patent number: 6519809
Filing date: 26 Jun 2001
Issue date: 18 Feb 2003

[matt]

but then again you have this

http://www.google.co.uk/patents?id=ZPo7AAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4&source=gbs_overview_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q=&f=false

Patent number: 3971098
Filing date: 11 Feb 1974
Issue date: 27 Jul 1976

[matt]

and this

http://www.google.co.uk/patents?id=P1AlAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4&source=gbs_overview_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q=&f=false

Patent number: 5056187
Filing date: 31 Aug 1990
Issue date: 15 Oct 1991

its looking like this gutter vac thing isnt that new

[Frankybadboy]

matt you got to much time on your hands m8

[eclipse]

with an attitude and mannerism that you seem to have Glynn i am suprised you have any customers PERIOD..
when i was looking to buy a system i actually looked at your kit and then i read some of your previous comments towards members on here and i bought elswhere..
im more than happy with the set up i bought elsewhere and i have no quarms reccommending  the company i bought from
Had your previous comments and posts come across as (I am high and mighty and i look down on you) then i would have maybe bought from you in the mean-time i would concentrate on removing that huge chip from your shoulders and perhaps toning down a little....  : : :

[matt]

matt you got to much time on your hands m8

tell me about 

[ftp]

and this

http://www.google.co.uk/patents?id=P1AlAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4&source=gbs_overview_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q=&f=false

Patent number: 5056187
Filing date: 31 Aug 1990
Issue date: 15 Oct 1991

its looking like this gutter vac thing isnt that new

Patently obvious.

[Gleaming windows]

So ?? ?? ?? That means that someones been telling porky pies? 

Oh I am disappointed in you Glyn. You were such a pretty baby, whatever happened in between, where did it all go wrong? 

[Glyn H]

We live in the United Kingdom
We are governed under English Law
The United Kingdom Patent's are registered at the Patent Office in LONDON

Our Patent attorney is based in New Oxford Street W1
Our Trade Mark attorney is based in Chersey, Surrey
you will notice that none of these are in the United States Of America

We live and work  a whole different country from the USA we are not quite yet the 51st State

[Nathanael Jones]

Glyn,.. you gave me hassle when trying to design a logo for Guild members with the words "Gutter Vac" in it,.. in an attempt to promote/market the service, not any particular product.

I don't live in the UK,... so I'm confused,...

When it suits you, your IP rights extend outside the UK to me,.. but when it doesn't suit you other ppls IP rights are resticted to the country they live in?

 

[Gleaming windows]

Selective something or another I guess Nat.

[Neil Williams]

So in theory are you saying it is ok to copy an idea from a different country?
But it's not ok if you are based in the UK to copy UK patients

[Nathanael Jones]

The "Nat Vac" will be on sale Monday,.. shipping from Ireland may take a few days, so get your orders in quick!! :p

[Glyn H]

I don't live in the UK,... so I'm confused,..

We have an CTM  not a TM
Is that clearer?

[Gleaming windows]

So in theory are you saying it is ok to copy an idea from a different country?
But it's not ok if you are based in the UK to copy UK patients

You want an answer to that question Neil 

[Neil Williams]

You posted this whilst I was typing mine out, so now I'm even more peed off.
Are you saying Omnipole stopped you using the words 'Guttervac'?
If so I'm surprised Omni have gone down the same route as the Reach & Reach group who have patented those exact words.

Glyn,.. you gave me hassle when trying to design a logo for Guild members with the words "Gutter Vac" in it,.. in an attempt to promote/market the service, not any particular product.

I don't live in the UK,... so I'm confused,...

When it suits you, your IP rights extend outside the UK to me,.. but when it doesn't suit you other ppls IP rights are resticted to the country they live in?

 

[Nathanael Jones]

I don't live in the UK,... so I'm confused,..

We have an CTM  not a TM
Is that clearer?

Not really,.. whats a CTM?

[ftp]

I give up, where's the patent too?


http://www.ipo.gov.uk/patent/p-journal/p-pj?startYear=2008&startMonth=November&startDay=26th+-+6236&endYear=2009&endMonth=November&endDay=4th+-+6285&filter=gutter+vacuum&perPage=10&sort=Publication+Date

[Neil Williams]

So in theory are you saying it is ok to copy an idea from a different country?
But it's not ok if you are based in the UK to copy UK patients

You want an answer to that question Neil 

Would be nice but I guess looking through the thread there are still some unanswered questions already

[Glyn H]

http://www.ipo.gov.uk/crime.htm